I'm not oppose to surefire I mention them because they are the standard which everyone is compared to. Sure they look cool, but heck the amount of money they charge for a torch it better be made out of gold if you ask me. Take the inova x5 great flashlight at an ok price I would trust it with my life and thats about as high end as I think anyone should ever go for. Take the lowly maglite, which was the standard for tactical gear back in the day now its consider low end really lowly. I've never had one of those things fail on me and I've really abused it. It doesn't look as sexy or tactical as the sure fire, the coating on them sucks very soft after awhile you going to see the aluminium, I can live with that besides if it ever gets so bang up to the oint it just looking nasty I can always pick up another one for dirt cheap. I'm always amaze when people say you can't make things in the u.s. at a cheap price with quality, I always point out that maglite does. I'm not going to pay 80 dollars for a flashlight made in china. With the minimag you can put out the same amount or more of light as any comparable surefire for pennies. There lots you can do to them and they can be made waterproof. Don't worry about the shock proof deal flashlight these days are made good even cheap ones are pretty much shock proof. if you want something that looks tactical and the bomb out the box brinkman 1 watt led is what you should go for very durable flashlight had one for years if and its only 15 dollars! There really no need to get like a surefire even if you are in security business, I know from personal experience. Its just amazing how many people buy so call high end flashlight and than go and buy a cheap worthless knife made by smith and wesson. I would rather buy a good flashlight minus and invest it in high end blade.