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What's the number one bag/pack killer for you?

Discussion in 'EDC Bags' started by CANNIBALdinner., Jun 22, 2016.

  1. Mumbojumboo
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    Mumbojumboo EDC Junkie!!!!!

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    Too many pockets. I use mesh bags inside so numerous pockets just adds weight.
     
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  2. Wesmanthetiger

    Wesmanthetiger Loaded Pockets

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    Thank-you. How can you sell a bag online without pictures of every interior surface? I get a pic of the front and back and that's it? Companies that do this for their own gear on their own site should be ashamed. Also real estate sites selling/renting homes need to also take note of this.

    Molle straps that come un-sewn. This is what got me to finally spend some money on a bag and avoid the cheap clones. What's the point of Molle straps if your stuff falls off?

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  3. backwater-otter

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    Bad sewing = ripped seams, torn straps, etc.
     
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  4. Appel

    Appel Loaded Pockets

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    The looks. If it does not look good I don't use it. Period.
     
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  5. DannyX

    DannyX Loaded Pockets

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    While I see where you're coming from they do make sense in certain applications.
    Some flap bags (especially when secured by velcro only) can be opened faster that most zippered bags and while they're
    open you can oversee the contents in the bag pretty well (depending on the design of course).
    Thats the reason bike messenger bags (single or dual strap aka "backack") have flaps (besides the superior waterproofing).
    I have an Chrome Warsaw backpack (my shopping bag) which has a flap only secured by one 2inch plastic buckle.
    Easy in, easy out. But that's because it's not a Herschel hipster bag (for which I can totally understand your rant). ;)
     
  6. RoboSim

    RoboSim Loaded Pockets

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    Top Loaders (for EDC, okay for proper hiking & backpacking)
    Velcro flaps
    Lack of admin panel
     
  7. sungame

    sungame Loaded Pockets

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    Inadequate carrying systems must be number one for me.

    Shoulder bags with skinny straps with no padding, backpacks with flimsy shoulder straps and no waist belts, large hiking backpacks with no way of adjusting or fitting the carrying system...
     
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  8. sungame

    sungame Loaded Pockets

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    If you buy from a brick-and-mortar store, you usually can check it.

    At least, you can get an approximation of how a certain pack carries. Here in Norway, most decent sporting goods stores will help you quickly fill a backpack with clothes, boots, sleeping bags and other items from their inventory and let you walk around the shop with it. Of course, that doesn't tell you how the pack will feel halfway through the third day on the mountain, but it does give you an idea of how it carries.
     
  9. CHF.sufferer

    CHF.sufferer Loaded Pockets

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    When a bag won't stand up on it's own or has a really slanted bottom...ie: TAD Fastpack EDC. Ultimately, sold it because of this and just not needing that level of durability in a bag.
     
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  10. Iron Badger

    Iron Badger Loaded Pockets

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    bags that have like no padding to keep your stuff from smacking when you set it down
    no hand straps so you can carry it around or hang it on something
    a bunch of useless small pockets on the inside where your stuff falls out from normal use, it could've just been another compartment or pouch
     
  11. Moshe ben David

    Moshe ben David Loaded Pockets

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    Used to be that a dead on giveaway of lousy quality was how the shoulder straps were sewn on. Good shoulder (and other load bearing straps) were box stitched with an "X" stitch inside the box. Often double stitched both ways. AND you could see the stitching for yourself. Cheap bags (such as the ones purported for kids to use as book bags!) had the straps just stitched in a line at a seam. Wife and son went through any number of bags in his school years because of this; did they listen to me? Naaah.

    Now though, I go into outdoor stores (e.g., REI, Dick's Sporting Goods, etc) and every bag I see you cannot identify how the straps are sewn on; the anchor points are concealed behind the back padding. This is across multiple price ranges, from no-name even into North Face. An automatic 'no I'm not buying that bag' for me!

    wrt to water bottles: I agree with all that's been said above!

    Bags a lot of y'all are discussing seem to only be Internet order; I've never seen pics on the sites that give detail on this. Plus so many are of the 'tacticool/heavy Molle strap' design school, which I'd rather not have. I'm strictly urban/suburban edc. I have no wish to be a mall ninja.

    Ok. I'm done ranting!

    L'chaim!

    Moshe ben David
     
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  12. tbzbbt

    tbzbbt Loaded Pockets

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    Lack of standing ability is a major disadvantage. I am writing this on the train with my Tom bihn copilot standing upright on the carriage floor. Cool. Messenger bags annoy the hell out of me as they occupy a huge footprint and the strap tangles: especially when thrown on the truck passenger seat...
     
  13. tbzbbt

    tbzbbt Loaded Pockets

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    I agree, adverts for bags make evaluation very difficult. I want scale and organisation to be clear: without have to track down multiple reviews to get the complete picture. Manufacturers please note, especially for the niche, specialist or tacticool bags.
     
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  14. GodWeTrust

    GodWeTrust Empty Pockets

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    Ditto to all the above

    And reviewers who don't actually show what the bag looks like wearing it.

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  15. Batsy

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    Poor visibility inside. I have had multiple packs that are fantastic, only to later realize that it's like peering into a cave without a headlamp trying to find items. Also turns me off to see multiple, small, practically unusable pockets in odd places. I'm spoiled and expect all packs to zip all the way to the base..
     
  16. Easyrunning

    Easyrunning Loaded Pockets

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    I really wanted to love my MOAB 6 but the sling is just too poorly designed for comfortable carry. When it comes to smaller EDC bags, it has to be comfortable to wear all day.
     
  17. DCBman

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    Okay, but this isn't a "bag" issue as much as it is a 'marketing' issue. The bag could be great, but just marketed poorly. Conversely, the bag could suck, but have a great marketing team behind it. Along this line, I don't have nearly as much trouble with a manufacturer who doesn't show the bag well as I do with manufacturers who use deceptive practices to make the bag "appear" different than it really is. The use of wide-angle lenses, careful use of props to create optical illusions of scale and size, use of depth of field to change the relative appearance of an item in comparison to surroundings (fishermen use this one all the time for example). To me, those things are a much larger issue than just failing to show the bag from all angles, and frankly there's quite a few manufacturers who do these things too (regrettably).

    There seem to be some pretty consistent themes in this thread, and perhaps it might be worthwhile to enumerate these common themes and then revise the poll to list these items and have people identify which one is most important. Maybe some manufacturers will see the poll and take notes.
     
  18. Adam Ng

    Adam Ng Loaded Pockets

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    I usually check a bag out thoroughly before purchase. Still there are some flaws that only materialize after some use. I had some some water proof lining peeling off inside of the bag. At first it was just cosmetically bad. Eventually I had to toss the bag as small flakes get on my optics and sensitive equipments. Now a day I wrap all my stuffs in soft padding to keep the dirts out and prevent excessive wear on the lining.
     
  19. pieceofwork

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    Admin Pocket - I find them useless

    MOLLE - not a fan of the overtly tactical look
     
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  20. Caleb

    Caleb Loaded Pockets

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    American tactical companies, using American military camo patters, made overseas(pacific rim), etc. I love American made gear, and the quality and materials is evident.
     
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