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Victornox fallen too?

Discussion in 'Knives' started by baccar-3, Oct 21, 2016.

  1. baccar-3

    baccar-3 Loaded Pockets

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    This is an ad from Amazon.
    Can this be true or is it an attempt to copy?
    I copied image and pasted the words over the image, on the site they are separate.
    Please advise and tell me vic is not outsourcing to china.

    [​IMG]sakex by ?, on Flickr
     
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  2. StuntZombie

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  3. jackknife

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    And I'd bet a hundred bucks to a box of doughnuts, that the product that arrives will NOT be like the one in the photo.
     
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  4. Gogogordy

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    Counterfeit more like (based on the misleading, ambiguous advertisement )
     
  5. thatotherguy

    thatotherguy EDC Junkie!!!!!

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    Best case scenario, the seller just made a mistake in typing up the origin. To the best of my knowledge Victorinox still makes all of their knives in either Ibach or Delemont, depending on the line (and all of the components save the corkscrew-that's French made- are made in Switzerland as well).
     
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    The misuse of English in the 3rd to last line is pretty much a dead giveaway..."The product is Explorer Knife"

    Knock-off for sure.
     
  7. Westerdutch

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    Yup, the Chinese can copy anything.... except for proper English. How one of em hasn't had the brilliant idea to hire one native English speaker by now is completely baffling!
     
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  8. jackknife

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    It never ceases to amaze me how many people really don't see a difference.

    I once used my SAK while on the job at the machine shop I worked at. A co-worker, an 'alderman of rural farm upbringing, saw the SAK and replied that he had one "of those Swiss Army knives and it wasn't worth spit." as he put it. Held an edge like a butter knife.

    I asked him if he was sure it was a SAK, and his reply was that it had the red handle and white cross on it. That was his logic. We talked about it and I expressed doubt that it was a real Swiss made SAK, so he said he'd bring it in and show me the POS>

    Sure enough, the very next day he comes in and takes out a knife with red handles and a whit cross on it. That was about as far as the resemblance went He had a very crude copy from a large Asian nation, that was a joe when put side by side with a real SAK. I pointed out the tang stamp, and he read it very carefully, and then made the absolutely stupidest statement anyone had ever said to me.

    "Well, all them stainless steel knives is about the same. Ain't no stainless steel worth a s---!"

    Some minds are not worth saving.
     
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  9. Westerdutch

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    Hm, you'd say 'machine shop' kind of people would know about the big impact small details can have when it comes to tools.
     
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  10. jackknife

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    Nah, theres two kinds of workers in machine shops. One, the machinist who sets up the mills/lathes and the machine operators who just pull a handle on the drill press. "A.W." was a machine operator who was kind of unskilled labor and not the sharpest knife in the drawer.
     
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    Is he Chinese?

    *rim shot*


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  12. baccar-3

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    I emailed Victornox and received this reply, "Please be advised, the authentic Victornox Swiss knife is made in Switzerland."
    I also asked about authorized dealers and was told to visit swissarmy.com for a list.
    They also said that amazon is an authorized dealer if sold by amazon.
    Read carefully.
     
  13. baccar-3

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    As we used to say in another place and time,"Ain't no cure for stupid."
     
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    thatotherguy EDC Junkie!!!!!

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    The other day, I was trying to make a point to a group of kids to whom I was teaching basic compass skills. The point I was trying to make was that you have to hold the compass away from any magnetic fields, such as steel on your body, to get an accurate reading. For an example, I held the compass to my stainless steel wristwatch, and one of the adults looking on made a comment along the lines of "it's stainless, it's not magnetic."
    The same person has in the past said that carbon blades are good and stainless is junk, period, no equivocations... he had a Benchmade 940 in his pocket at the time.

    The things some people say and pass off as irrefutable fact astound me.
     
  15. mole

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    just no.
     
  16. Flashman

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    Interesting to note about Amazon. I've seen a few on sale there before.

    I'll stick to my local knife shop for Victorinox knives.
     
  17. 0dBm

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    The raw polymer material used to make the plastic bag that covers Vic knife products is made (mixed) in Taiwan...
     
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  18. Moshe ben David

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    umm. OK. But what is the point you are making? Victorinox never stated they didn't source materials from outside of Switzerland; at least I don't recall any such statement.

    Moshe ben David
     
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    Haha if the Swiss could only use locally sourced materials they would not be able to produce many watches, knives or anything else for that matter. In the end everything is made from either plants, animals, fermented dinosaur squeezings or a bunch of rocks. Nobody really cares where those came from, it's how it they are being turned into something useful that makes the difference.
     
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    I'm answering Fan-Rang 173's would-be question below. Victorinox don't state that they do source materials from outside of Switzerland. At least not publicly, but they do. Most businesses in the world do.
     
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