Hey guys, I know for a fact that the for the carry weight, the Victorinox Spirit is the most capable tool in it's class. I believe that the Spirit is a lot stronger then the Charge TTi for a number of reasons. First off, the Victorinox still is softer so it won't snap.. It may bend, but it won't snap. Next, the pliers. The pliers are cast and the ones on the Spirit are significantly stronger then the ones on the Charge! How many broken LM plier head pics have you seen? How many broken Spirit plier heads have you seen? (none). Please let me know about your experiences with the Spirit/Charge and which you think is tougher.