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Victorinox Dilemma...

Discussion in 'Knives' started by gcconspiracy, Apr 8, 2018.

  1. gcconspiracy

    gcconspiracy Loaded Pockets

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    Okay, so four years ago my wife gave me a Victorinox Super Tinker for my birthday. I have a small collection of knives ranging from modern one-handers, to classic slip joints, and a Leatherman Wave, but that Super Tinker has been my sole EDC pretty much every day for the past four years!

    Having said that, after four years of daily carry and use, the scales are starting to get really loose, and one looks like it will fall off shortly. I know that I could get replacement scales (or maybe even some G10 scales from Swiss Bianco), but part of me just wants to try something new...

    All of that to say that I am looking at mixing up my EDC, and here are the possibilities that I have come up with after spending some quality time with the SAK selector:

    - Vic Classic + Alox Farmer (I've never had an Alox, and I've always been interested in them)
    - Vic Classic + Alox Pioneer X
    - Vic Classic + Vic Mechanic (I hear that this model is discontinued, but I found one in a local shop)
    - Vic Classic + Vic Hiker
    - Vic Fieldmaster
    - Vic Deluxe Tinker
    - Vic Swiss Champ (this one is probably too big for pocket carry (with a suspension clip), but man it looks fun!)

    At the moment, the front runners are probably the two Alox models and the Fieldmaster, but I would appreciate your thoughts/wisdom on my decision.

    Thanks in advance,

    -GCC
     
  2. SOS24
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    For me the most used items on my SAKs are scissors, bottle opener, tweezers and screwdriver; so I don’t edc models without scissors. The Alox Pioneer X is a great knife that I frequently use and did edc for a while. My current edc combination is a Rambler on the keyring and Compact or Super Tinker in the pocket. The Fieldmaster is also really nice, but it felt big and heavy in the pocket.
     
  3. gcconspiracy

    gcconspiracy Loaded Pockets

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    Yes, I am very tempted by the Pioneer X...

    Just curious, what advantage does the classic/rambler give you when you are carrying the super tinker?
     
  4. Ren

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    Just creating more of a problem... but the Evolution Grip 18 has the same tool set as the Fieldmaster, but with contoured handles.
    https://www.swissarmy.com/ca/en/Products/Swiss-Army-Knives/Medium-Pocket-Knives/Evolution-Grip-18/p/2.4913.C

    Also Wounded Warrior special of the Fieldmaster, though notice you're location is Canada.. so maybe not.
    https://www.swissarmy.com/ca/en/Products/Swiss-Army-Knives/Medium-Pocket-Knives/Fieldmaster-Wounded-Warrior/p/1.4713-X1

    PS I carry a Farmer. Do think they look and feel classier, better build, and slightly slimmer than 3 layer celidox counterparts.
     
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  5. gcconspiracy

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    You know, I actually just saw the Evo grip 18 in a shop. I liked the tool load, but I haven’t had any experience with Wenger knives in the past, so I disregarded it... how do these knives compare to the more traditional Victorinox models (like the fieldmaster)?

    I have also seen the wounded warriors knives, but being from Canada they don’t hold much appeal if I’m honest.

    As for the farmer, I really like the concept - feels like a real “tried and true” model!
     
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    I've got a wenger and scales feel more plasticy compared with a vic. Not a bad knife (I found it to have more belly and was very sharp out of the box) but the scales don't quite feel as good. Nothing failed though and everything is still right and tight (copyright David baker;))but it's not had a difficult life. I'm wondering what you've done to the super tinker for the scales to become loose!
     
  7. gcconspiracy

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    Thanks for the insights on the Wenger, I really appreciate it!

    As for what I've done to loosen the scales, I have no idea. I've never had a SAK do this before. Mind you, I've never carried and used one single knife before, so it could just be daily use over time...
     
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    The Super Tinker has everything that the rambler has, so the only real advantage is when I’m trying to be less conspicuous with something small. Most of the time it is the compact, except when I’m not carrying my keys (no rambler) then I carry the Super Tinker.
     
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  9. Moshe ben David

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    If you're mostly in an urban/suburban/office environment, I'd say go for the Pioneer X. It and the Farmer are quite similar in size and most functions. ( I have both in rotation by the way!). The scissors on the Pioneer X are more useful in these environments than the saw on the Farmer.

    You could of course get one of each, perhaps in different colors, to suit different days' activities, your mood, etc.!

    We're nothing if not enablers around here! ;)

    L'chaim!

    Moshe ben David
     
  10. gcconspiracy

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    I see. That makes a lot of sense... I am always curious to understand the logic behind people’s carries!
     
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    Yes, I know the enabling well!

    Quick question, I keep hearing that the pioneer x has much tighter back springs, and therefore much tougher to pull out the tools. Has this been your experience compared to your farmer?
     
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    Not at all.

    L'chaim!

    Moshe ben David
     
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  13. flux

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    The farmer is excellent. Great awl and saw. If you have a classic or rambler, you get scissors, so no need for a pioneer x.

    Classic and farmer make a good combo.
     
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    The model is very much a personal choice but in terms of scales, I hate thee plastic scales personally.

    I had an alox cadet which I loved. I feel the alox gives the best grip and with the cadet only having 2 layers, it was so thin I barely noticed it. Unfortunately, that's also how I lost it I think.
    These days I have the spartan with walnut scales and I really like it. I feel like the walnut looks good, has better grip than the plastic but doesn't look 'aggressive'. Typically that's not a problem with SAKs but there's the odd person that thinks they're dangerous. I've found it less of a problem with the wooden scales.

    I have the escort (I think) on my keys. It's a nice knife but with the plastic scales and the small size, it's hard to hold with wet or sweaty hands.
     
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  15. Gary Gross

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    You can pop the scales off (see YouTube for plenty of how-tos), apply a bit of Loc-Tite on the pins and snap back on. Might as well keep you current knife as a backup if nothing else. I would pick the Fieldmaster (with suspension clip) as first choice on your list. I have over 200 Victorinox knives and there is a 4 layer in my pocket every day. After that, if you are OK with fewer tools and/or just want a slim knife, I'd definitely go with the Pioneer X simply for the scissors. If you are anything like me, buy them all! My $0.02.
     
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    I´ll put some more doubts in your head.

    I ask you to please check the Evogrip s18. For me the best carry SAK.

    Besides that I´m a really fan of the Victorinox file and If you have the opportunity, get a Vic Clipper (the 91mm version).

    A great set for me is Vic Classic + Vic Clipper (91mm version)
    But, If I had to choose only one, I would go all the way on the Evogrip s18.

    Thinking in the options you gave us I would get the Deluxe Tinker.
     
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    This combination keeps running through my head... Either this or the Fieldmaster... Or maybe the Swiss Champ... Or...

    But seriously, it's probably between the Farmer/Classic, and the Fieldmaster at this point.
     
  18. gcconspiracy

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    I've never actually pulled/reglued scales before. Do you just use regular loc tite? Or is it loc tite brand super glue?

    Thanks for sharing your thoughts...
     
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    I saw the Evogrip s18 in a store recently (for a good price too!). How does it compare to the Fieldmaster in your experience? I've never had any of the Wenger style knives, and so my natural inclination is to stick with the traditional Vic models.

    Thanks for the input!
     
  20. Gary Gross

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    It's super easy. Start with a small blade or pry bar. Remove toothpick and tweezers and start prying in those slots. There are 3 pins that need to release. I like an adhesive that is fairly thick (not runny). Super glue isn't necessary, especially if you ever want to remove the scales again. Good luck!

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