vB4.03 is supposed to have 304 bug fixes in it. The last patch for 4.02 had bugs itself so I am going to watch and see what happens to some other forums that installs this. With 1530 confirmed bugs 304 does not eliminate them all but hopefully some of them will take care of some of the nagging problems we have had. I am in hopes that some of the fixes they have do not conflict with some of the fixes we have already done. Right now I need to be thinking about either dumping vB4 and moving to something else or trying to get things right in the current software. 4.03 could be as early as next week so we will see what happens with this.