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Time to replace itp A3.

Discussion in 'Flashlights & Other Illumination Devices' started by toddtheknifegeek, Feb 28, 2013.

  1. toddtheknifegeek

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    My itp A3 went missing from my pocket this week. Need a new light. I loved everything about this little light. Before I go and order a maratac or olight replacement, I thought I would find out if there was something better. Perhaps a clicky, better build,whatever. I don't want to sacrifice output though. pocket clip and lanyard prefered. One aaa batt prefered. Single aa light not out of the question, but no 123 lights. Too fat in my pocket for my taste.

    Help me part with some money guys!

    For those interested in such things, new light checklist below.

    Recommend a Flashlight Checklist: (Don't worry about all the questions, just the ones you feel strongly about!) Please mark "x" inside the [ ] to indicate your choice and please delete the options that you are not at all interested in.

    1) Short Essay Question: What do you intend to use this light for?

    2) What Region/Country/State will the light be purchased in?
    [ X] I will be mail-ordering or buying online, so this doesn't matter.
    3) Price Range: An easy question, but you may change your mind after answering the rest! :broke:
    [X ] $40-60
    4) Format:
    PART A
    [X ] I want a flashlight.

    PART B
    Length:
    [X ] 1-2 inches. (Keychain sized)
    [ X] 2-4 inches. (Pocket carry)

    PART C
    Width:
    [X ] Doesn't matter.

    PART D
    Weight:
    Lights of a similar size can be very different in weight and may turn the perfect sized light into a paper weight. In general a lights of the same size will stack up like this; plastic and aluminum will be your lighter choices brass, stainless steel, bronze will be heavier. I won't put numbers here because everyone has a different weight sensitivity. For the purposes of EDC specifically I'll limit the choices here to the more easily carried sizes pick 2 sizes to represent a range of weight.
    [X ] Light, no heavier than a few keys or a small car remote.
    [X ] Medium light, about the weight of a AAA MiniMag

    5) What kind of "bulb".
    [X ] LED - more rugged, unlikely to burn out in your lifetime, less accurate color rendition, in general less output but more efficient (longer runtimes)

    6) What batteries do you want to use? Alkaline batteries are easier to find and less expensive but don't pack as much stored energy and are don't work well in cold temperatures. Lithium batteries have long shelf life (10+ years, great for stored emergency lights) and are not as affected by cold but must be kept dry and are more expensive. Rechargeable start expensive, but if used frequently pay off quickly.
    [X ] I want lithium batteries. (coin cells, CR123, AAA, AA...)


    7) How much light do you want? Sometimes you can have too much light (trying to read up close up with a 100 lumen light is impossible).
    [X ] I want to do Caving or Search & Rescue operations. (60+ lumens)
    [ ] I want to light an entire campground or dazzle an intruder. (100+ lumens)

    8) Throw vs Flood: Which do you prefer, lights that flood an area with a wide beam, or lights that "throw" with a tightly focused beam? Place an “X” on the line below. Sometimes a flood is better particularly closer up or indoors. You won't have to "sweep" the light back and forth to see what you need to see. You can also just set it down pointing the general direction rather having to point it right at that which you are working.

    Throw (distance)----------------------|---X-------------------Flood/close-up

    9) Runtime: Not over-inflated manufacturer runtime claims (like some LED lights). but usable brightness measured from first activation to 50% with new batteries. Understand that runtime is a function of brightness and capacity of your batteries. If you want 6 hours you'll either have big batteries or dimmer light, they haven't made a setup yet that lights up like the sun, runs all night, and fits in your watch pocket.
    [ X] 20 min. (I want the brightest light for brief periods)
    [X ] 60-240 min. (1-2 hours)

    10) Durability: Generally the old phrase “you get what you pay for” is very accurate for flashlights.
    [ X] Slightly Important (Walks around the neighborhood.)
    [X ] Very Important (Camping, Backpacking, Car Glove-box.)

    11) Switch Type:
    [X ] I don't care.

    12) Switch Location:
    [ X] I don't care.

    13) Operational Modes: Check all that apply.
    [X ] I want 2 light levels. (Brighter/short runtime and Dimmer/long runtime.)
    [X ] I want multiple light levels. (some lights have 5-16 light levels.)

    14) Is it important whether the body is metal or plastic/composite? In this case "plastic" and it's variants does not mean "cheap" or poorly made. In many applications a plastic bodied light is preferable, hard use and water resistance comes to mind; think caving or lights that get dropped or abused.
    [X ] I want a metal-bodied light.
     
  2. Scottyzedinosaur

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    The A3 is a great light! I lost mine too, though. There is also an AA variant, which will give you more runtime. There's the 4Sevens Preon which is a fantastic light, with some modular capability. You can add a tail clicky (one of the nicest tail clickies I've felt. It has a tendency to turn on in pocket though.) or a titanium head with a black body. The Maratac AA is nice, but countycomm takes forever to ship and it's a tad expensive. I'd say get a Preon, which is really a premium light. You should probably order a clicky with it, it makes it a much better light IMO. And if you want to have a blazing output for an AAA light, grab a lithium 10440 and charger and have almost 200 lumens from a teeny light!
     
  3. jag-engr
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    If you're okay with a twisty light, the Preon ReVO is one of the most efficient AAA lights ever designed. Unfortunately, it was discontinued and most people who have one are reluctant to part with them, so they don't come up on the secondary market very often.

    Several companies have copied the design, though. Most notably, Klarus lights has several similar lights that are available through the forum store.
     
  4. Isawyah

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    Eagletac D25a Clicky. It's the next light I'm getting. You can find them for around $44 if you look hard enough.
     
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    That will be my next AA light, hopefully.
     
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    I was recently looking for a AAA keychain light and came to the conclusion that the Peak Eiger was the best option based on build quality, reliability, and user interface. Still trying to justify the added cost over a stainless Maratac though.
     
  7. Racer

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    Get the new I3S. It's two generations newer than the A3 and a fantastic light. It has constant current circuitry and the latest XP-G2 emitter.
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  8. Aleister

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    I am with the "get another iTP / Olight" trend, I love them!

    Does v3 has the same "protection" like the older iTP / Olight versions (stepping down to firefly mode after a couple of hours, not due to low battery)? Not being able to stay on low all night without stepping down is my only problem with v1 and v2.
     
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    I'm not sure, but it probably doesn't matter, because the 3rd mode is a .5 lumen moonlight mode, which I guarantee will stay on all night. I forget the run time but with a nice efficient constant current driver it has now, it's gotta be a large number :)
     
  11. toddtheknifegeek

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    Thanks for the suggestions. Computer issues prevented me from posting for a bit. Like the the Peak and the Klarus options but it looks like they don't come with a clip. So I will be ordering and eagletac soon I guess!