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Discussion in 'The Breakroom' started by kertap75, Jan 16, 2014.
Thanks T, I appreciate it.
This is just Looney Tunes.....
Happened a while back, but court judgements from the civil cases have finally been handed down.
Cop Forces Drunk Man to Move his Car, When He Bumps Other Cars, the Cop Shot Him DeadThe taxpayers of Baton Rouge will be shelling out close to a half million dollars because of the negligent actions of BRPD officer, Christopher Magee.Carlos Harris was out with his friend, Ryan Dominique, when police were called to the scene on reports of Dominique driving recklessly in the parking lot of Club Insomnia on Florida Blvd.Dominique was subsequently arrested at which point officer Magee asked Harris to move his friend’s car.When asked to move the car, Harris told Magee he was drunk and did not wish to do so. According to witness Aisha Loliss, Magee then “commanded him to move the car.”More than 50 cameras, including multiple police dashcams, captured the various angles of what happened next. The videos show Harris driving the car into a police unit, pull forward and hit another car, then crash into the police car again.The car was traveling forward away from him when Magee shot Harris from behind. One of the three shots Magee fired also hit a woman nearby in the wrist.Harris was killed as a result of the shots. A toxicology report also showed that his blood alcohol level was .089 making his claim of being intoxicated true.Harris’ family sued Baton Rouge police for negligence because they believe Harris should have never been instructed to get behind the wheel. The family also contests Dominique’s car had a defect and was difficult to drive, which could explain the reason for ramming the other cars.Magee was cleared of all wrongdoing, was never disciplined for his actions, and remains on the force today.ATB,
I find the difference in philosophy interesting.
Verses the deputy in the latter half off this vid-
Hi! Maybe this isn't the right place to ask, but I just reminded this thread after reading some news about Ferguson.. What the heck is going on there? I searched for more Info's but they're taking down videos and photos from Twitter and tumblr..
What's going on is basically a coup d'etat by the local police followed by a whole lot of rioting by the citizens.
It started Saturday when an unarmed man with his hands in the air was shot and killed by police. His body was left lying in the street for 6 hours as an "example".
They're doing everything they can to shut down all media, as you have already noticed. Last night cops tear gassed a news van who was setting up to do a report.
There are a number of articles online that you can read.
1. A teen, later found to be unarmed, was shot and killed by a police officer.
a) Some witness reports indicate some sort of "tussle" at the squad car window prior to the shooting.
b) Those same reports note the teen was backing away from the car, hands raised, when the officer's weapon discharged - presumably the officer fired his weapon.
c) Police, thus far, have refused to release the officer involved's name.
d) Outside agencies, including the FBI, are part of the probe into the shooting.
2. Unhappy crowds protested the incident; at some point during the protests or shortly thereafter, unknown subjects commenced to: either "vandalism and theft" or "looting" - depending on your preference.
3. The police response has been described as para-military. A number of photo essays and commentaries have remarked on the similarity to Soldiers and asked if this was Ferguson or Fergustan.
Edited to add: a) police response to "unrest" or "unlawful assembly" or "rioting" (again, depending on who you ask) has seemed fairly typical - including CS gas and rubber bullets. The media blackout, however, is almost unprecedented.
4. The police have also seemed to be trying to enforce a media blackout - including tampering with media equipment, and ordering a Mcdonald's emptied and then arresting two reporters who apparently failed to comply fast enough. This blackout also includes a "no fly" zone in the area.
In Ferguson, Washington Post reporter Wesley Lowery gives account of his arrest
FERGUSON, Mo. — For the past week in Ferguson, reporters have been using the McDonald’s a few blocks from the scene of Michael Brown’s shooting as a staging area. Demonstrations have blown up each night nearby. But inside there’s WiFi and outlets, so it’s common for reporters to gather there.
That was the case Wednesday. My phone was just about to die, so as I charged it, I used the time to respond to people on Twitter and do a little bit of a Q&A since I wasn’t out there covering the protests.
As I sat there, many armed officers came in — some who were dressed as normal officers, others who were dressed with more gear.
Initially, both Ryan Reilly of the Huffington Post and I were asked for identification. I was wearing my lanyard, but Ryan asked why he had to show his ID. They didn’t press the point, but one added that if we called 911, no one would answer.
Then they walked away. Moments later, the police reemerged, telling us that we had to leave. I pulled my phone out and began recording video.
An officer with a large weapon came up to me and said, “Stop recording.”
I said, “Officer, do I not have the right to record you?”
He backed off but told me to hurry up. So I gathered my notebook and pens with one hand while recording him with the other hand.
As I exited, I saw Ryan to my left, having a similar argument with two officers. I recorded him, too, and that angered the officer. As I made my way toward the door, the officers gave me conflicting information.
One instructed me to exit to my left. As I turned left, another officer emerged, blocking my path.
“Go another way,” he said.
As I turned, my backpack, which was slung over one shoulder, began to slip. I said, “Officers, let me just gather my bag.” As I did, one of them said, “Okay, let’s take him.”
Multiple officers grabbed me. I tried to turn my back to them to assist them in arresting me. I dropped the things from my hands.
“My hands are behind my back,” I said. “I’m not resisting. I’m not resisting.” At which point one officer said: “You’re resisting. Stop resisting.”
That was when I was most afraid — more afraid than of the tear gas and rubber bullets.
As they took me into custody, the officers slammed me into a soda machine, at one point setting off the Coke dispenser. They put plastic cuffs on me, then they led me out the door.
I could see Ryan still talking to an officer. I said: “Ryan, tweet that they’re arresting me, tweet that they’re arresting me.”
He didn’t have an opportunity, because he was arrested as well.
The officers led us outside to a police van. Inside, there was a large man sitting on the floor between the two benches. He began screaming: “I can’t breathe! Call a paramedic! Call a paramedic!”
Ryan and I asked the officers if they intended to help the man. They said he was fine. The screaming went on for the 10 to 15 minutes we stood outside the van.
“I’m going to die!” he screamed. “I’m going to die! I can’t breathe! I’m going to die!”
Eventually a police car arrived. A woman — with a collar identifying her as a member of the clergy — sat in the back. Ryan and I crammed in next to her, and we took the three-minute ride to the Ferguson Police Department. The woman sang hymns throughout the ride.
During this time, we asked the officers for badge numbers. We asked to speak to a supervising officer. We asked why we were being detained. We were told: trespassing in a McDonald’s.
“I hope you’re happy with yourself,” one officer told me. And I responded: “This story’s going to get out there. It’s going to be on the front page of The Washington Post tomorrow.”
And he said, “Yeah, well, you’re going to be in my jail cell tonight.”
Once at the station, we were processed, our pockets emptied. No mug shots. They removed our restraints and put us in a holding cell. Ryan was able to get ahold of his dad. I called my mom, but I couldn’t get through. I couldn’t remember any phone numbers.
We were in there for what felt like 10 or 15 minutes. Then the processing officer came in.
“Who’s media?” he asked.
We said we were. And the officer said we were both free to go. We asked to speak to a commanding officer. We asked to see an arrest report. No report, the officer told us, and no, they wouldn’t provide any names.
I asked if there would ever be a report. He came back with a case number and said a report would be available in a week or two.
“The chief thought he was doing you two a favor,” he said.
The Ferguson Police Department did not immediately respond to a request for comment on Lowery’s detention.
The following is a statement on the incident from Washington Post Executive Editor Martin D. Baron:
Wesley has briefed us on what occurred, and there was absolutely no justification for his arrest.
He was illegally instructed to stop taking video of officers. Then he followed officers’ instructions to leave a McDonald’s — and after contradictory instructions on how to exit, he was slammed against a soda machine and then handcuffed. That behavior was wholly unwarranted and an assault on the freedom of the press to cover the news. The physical risk to Wesley himself is obvious and outrageous.
After being placed in a holding cell, he was released with no charges and no explanation. He was denied information about the names and badge numbers of those who arrested him.
We are relieved that Wesley is going to be OK. We are appalled by the conduct of police officers involved.
Never a good sign when:
When the police break out the LRAD.
Issue tresspassing charges when the property owner never issued a complaint.
Cuff, detain, and place reporters in holding cells without ever pressing charges.
Refuse to provide said reporters with badge numbers or names.
The police chief will not provide details (including how many times the civilian was shot) on the shooting citing security reasons.
No kidding. On the bright side, the notion of "police militarization" has now been indelibly thrust into the spotlight.
The Ferguson "revolution" may be televised courtesy of straight to YouTube cell phone clips, but any chopper-based TV crews will have to find a different vantage point, as will any and all low flying aircraft (with the exception of US government drones of course), because moments ago, the FAA announced that starting 1315 UTC through 2000 UTC on August 12, "No pilots may operate an aircraft in the areas covered by this NOTAM (except as described). ONLY RELIEF AIRCRAFT OPERATIONS UNDER DIRECTION OF ST." The Reason? "TO PROVIDE A SAFE ENVIRONMENT FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT ACTIVITIES." Because TV crews recording every incident put "law enforcement" in jeopardy?
FDC 4/2599 ZKC MO..AIRSPACE FERGUSON, MO..TEMPORARY FLIGHT RESTRICTIONS WITHIN AN AREA DEFINED AS 3 NM RADIUS OF 384428N0901812W (ST LOUIS VORTAC STL129011.0) SFC-3000FT TO PROVIDE A SAFE ENVIRONMENT FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT ACTIVITIES. PURSUANT TO 14 CFR SECTION 91.137(A)(2) TEMPORARY FLIGHT RESTRICTIONS ARE IN EFFECT. ONLY RELIEF AIRCRAFT OPERATIONS UNDER DIRECTION OF ST. LOUIS COUNTY POLICE DEPARTMENT ARE AUTHORIZED IN THE AIRSPACE. AIRCRAFT LANDING AND DEPARTING ST. LOUIS LAMBERT AIRPORT ARE EXEMPT FROM THIS TFR. ST. LOUIS COUNTY POLICE DEPARTMENT, TELEPHONE 3148892360 , IS IN CHARGE OF THE OPERATION. KANSAS CITY /ZKC/ ARTCC, TELEPHONE 9132548500, IS THE FAA COORDINATION FACILITY. 1408121315-1408182000
To summarize, in addition to the heavily militarized police presence, and the barring of journalists and protestors, the government just prohibited news helicopters. Which, of course, is simply government code that tonight Ferguson may get "turbulent."
Not directly related to events in Ferguson, but still a good read:
Google "What Cop T-Shirts Tell Us About Police Culture"
Update: President and Governor are now both involved.
Video of the arrest of one of the two reporters at McDonald's:
Thanks to everyone for their answers. What is happening is terrifying.. It reminds me of what happened here in Italy some years ago, for the G8 meeting in Genova.
Wow. Those T-shirts are chilling. I see the tongue in cheek humor but the attitude behind them isn't what we need in "peace officers". Is this what we get from a militarized police force that prefers hiring hiring those with sub-average IQ?
I know there's a lot of good, smart, cops out there, doing the right thing for the right reasons and all, but I wonder how many of them will be left in 10 years. The ranks are being filled with order followers who want nothing more than to please their masters.
It's great how we have better news coverage of war zones then demonstrations in our own country isn't it? Regardless of what happened in the original incident the way it is being handled is shameful.