I have commented many times in this forum on the matter of walking sticks/canes and allied topics: how useful they are, what kind are desireable, responded to other threads (I love "Walking Amongst the Heathen" or a similar title) but thought at the risk of being tedious I would start a slightly new thread on my favorite topic here. In short, what is the most desireable self defense cane/stick that you can carry and not draw attention? I have been very vocal about my support for a heavy octagonal hickory cane made for stock handling, apparently vocal enough to make one guy think I owned the company! I have tried by now what is probably dozens of sticks, of wood and metal, domestic common woods and exotic imports, with a variety of heads, inc. micarta, metal, hornbeam and the like. Neverless, in the incredibly oppressive environment in which we now find ourselves, I cannot do otherwise than continue to advocate for a stick that is totally invisible in ordinary use. To wit: a stout, hardwood stick with a crook (aka "tourist") handle. Not only are they TOTALLY unnoticeable in daily life (I have carried mine into court) they can be used for a variety of neck holds and leg-grabs. Unlike the miriad number of sticks of things like titanium, stainless steel, huge wads of plastic, etc. mine is never noticed, never objected to and really functions in both a self defense capacity and a support on uneven ground. I have tried a variety of CS sticks, all of which are de facto weapons by virtue of the advertising of such. You can maybe get away from them in daily use, but try and get them into a court house, esp. if it is of fiberglass with a stainless steel death's head for a handle! How about the huge wad of polypro that is the CS African stick or the phony polypro "blackthorn?" How about even a commercial airline? I have tried most of these and even in a grocery store they bring unwanted attention. My stick looks drab, even a bit ugly, like something an old irrasible man might carry for a bad hip. I personally think this is the thing; it is the major reason I stay with it. The only reason I would change is to find a still denser, tougher wood than the hickory model I carry. I look periodically, but have not even found a thicker hickory model (mine is around 1 3/32" inches in the shaft). What is your experience people? Do you agree with my choice of the invisible over gaudy or pretty? How about the defensive capabilities of mine versus the other types? Oh, and mine now cost a weightly $11 plus shipping!