now it's open!!!!!!!!!!!!!(the can of worms) the only reason i posted to this forum is because i am tired of the nonsense that accompanies some of these topics ... what is edc? an outlet for "moneykeys"? edc ... i think,tries to assimilate all the ideas associated with the concept of preparedness...iow... what do you have on you that will ease your transition to normality(assuming the norm doesn't apply)...you dont have to carry all that stuff...really prybabies,photons,sebenzas,etc these are all "brand" names which is the "least" you need to survive...if i dont have this i'm in trouble?if i do i'm in a better position? where is the simplicity?it is the mindset that determines your eventual success... survival itself is not that hard, unless you are attempting Everest...what i am saying is that all these brand names being bandied about doesn't make you ...it's your spirit...with or without the "brand names" tired of all the "names" maybe we should decide what is really important! the admin. wrote a similar article a while ago.. now its just about ego...and what i have just a thought... so many have survived...without what we assume is so important!