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Swine flu/N95

Discussion in 'First Aid Station' started by Eeyore, Apr 26, 2009.

  1. revs
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    Don't several thousand die every year from complications of normal flu in the US every year? That is all that is causing the swine flu deaths, complications that arise while down with the flu. They are making a big deal out of something that will go away. Its not the Black Plague.

    Sorry, my opinion. :)
     
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    I agree that a lot of it is pure hype. It very sensational. Bird Flu, West Nile. Even Killer Bees at one point.
     
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    Once again, yes perhaps the swine flu is being hyped, but why would anyone not take simple steps like just washing their hands and not coughing or sneezing unless their mouth is covered to prevent catching or spreading any contagious disease? Not doing so is not only just plain stupid (even if it's only a cold), it's freakin' rude. It isn't about N95 masks or 50 gallon drums of Purell, it's about rude and lazy behavior and lost work (and social) time due to avoidable illnesses.

    Hmm, feeling lousy for a week or washing your hands more than once a month? Coughing and puking on a coworker or just staying home? Literally sneezing in the face of someone or maybe covering your mouth? Lemme think about it...

    Seen it all. Sometimes ya just wanna slap people 'cause they're such idiots.
     
  4. Rockhound

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    Swine Flu is just the Flu people. You get the sniffles, fever, runny nose, and get over it. Yes, people with low immune systems are at higher risks of dieing, just as with the seasonal Flu. It's no different.

    Just wash your hands regularly, stay away from sneezing, coughing people. You should always do this, not just when some bunch of dimwads on the TV tell you "OMG we're all going to die of a SWINE Flu outbreak!"
     
  5. chmsam

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    Well, sort of. Actually it is closely genetically related to the flu epidemic in the early 1900's that killed a lot of people and that's why researchers are nervous. It clearly hasn't turned into the killer they were fearing it could be. However, with the expected upsurge in cases this fall (when people move back indoors and with closer quarters you'll get higher transmission rates) there will be more cases and more serious cases. This has been blown out of proportion but it isn't just a plain ol' flu either. Treat it seriously but don't panic. Get worried when there are cases showing up where there are deaths and no underlying causes or very minor secondary problems since that would be a bad sign. This still has the potential to be a bad virus but only time will tell.
     
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    Well, since i made this statement just under 4 weeks ago:
    We are now up to 85-100 deaths according to who you speak to. Even less than the suspected deaths figure of over 3 weeks ago.

    Now there is every chance it could mutate and get worse, and it will be back towards the end of the year (and with lots of deaths from other flu strains there will be a steep jump in hysteria again) but we are also going to be much better prepared for it then than we are now, and now we are pretty well prepared.

    Its true that it isnt the plain old flu for sure, but you cant prepare for it in any way other than like the normal flu and you couldnt be more right with "don't panic". Im marking this one up 1:0 me v the media :)

    Its always funny how quickly people become fearful of stuff they can have zero control over and that in reality is a very minor threat. This one isnt quite as extreme as the millennium bug was because this one actually existed, but one thing for sure is there will be another "grave threat" to our existence just around the corner and its safe betting to assume it will turn out to be very minor. I dont want to be flippant, but if this swine flu does come back and kills a couple thousand this winter its a LOT less than many other causes of preventable deaths.
     
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    Hmm, fatal or not it still is a nasty flu, and we are talking about "only" a few thousand dead. That's the point I was making. Screw the media, why would anyone wanna take the chance on being sick for a week (or compromising a weakened system) when avoiding it is relatively easy? This isn't just feeling a bit off for a few days, it's more serious than that. It definitely isn't a "fluff flu."
     
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    The number of people already killed this year by the "regular flu" is something like 9,000. This year! I certainly don't like getting sick, and the flu is easy to avoid, but on the flip side of the coin, it's not the big deal the media made it out to be.
     
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    What would happen if the swine flu fought the bird flu and then the winner had to take on Sars?????? :D
     
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    It would be aired on Spike or ESPN 8 (THE OCHO!)
     
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    There is a lot of hysteria particularly from the media about H1N1 yes it is infectious and it may kill some people with seriously compromised immune systems, as will all the other strains of flu that rage around the world every year.

    The majority of people who contract this virus will have mild symptoms I know I have had the virus as the rest of my family.

    My symptoms were no worse than a bad cold, a sore throat, runny nose, and a cough, my daughter who brought it home had much the same symptoms but with a head ache, my wife lost her voice for a couple of days (not a bad thing one may thnk) and said she felt a bit off colour and my son had a headache and lost his appetite for a couple of days (also not a bad thing considering he only has one meal a day it starts when he gets up in the morning and finises when he goes back to bed at night).

    My daughter who is mildly asthmatic contracted the flu first was tested and confirmed with H1N1 was prescribed Tamiflu the rest of us were neither tested or prescribed anything.

    The media like a pittbull have got their teeth into this one and proceeded to do there best scare the crap out of everyone with the help of the W.H.O who have all but admitted they got it wrong.

    About 1.2 million people will die worldwide in vehicle accidents this year 40,000 in the US alone. Prehaps people would be better off worrying about bad drivers than this virus
     
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    What concerns me is the talk now circulating of potential mandatory vaccinations, starting with kids.

    Some interesting links in this blog.

    And then there is the last swine flu vaccine that killed people.

    We need to eat our fruits and veggies, wash our hands, stay healthy and informed...and resist the temptation to believe everything we hear and read and see. Evaluate all sources of info.
     
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    Thanks, Dodger. :iagree:

    I didn't know that the WHO's pandemic scale is based not on severity, but solely on the ability for something to spread. So in spite of the low death toll, swine flu rates a level 6 out of 6. I gotta wonder how useful these scales are when they don't take things like mortality rates into consideration.

    AIDS is a global pandemic.
     
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    Almost 34 thousand people have contracted H1N1 in the US, and 170 have died from it.

    Thats a fatality rate of 0.5%

    In Canada, 9400 cases and 37 deaths, for a fatality rate of 0.39%

    I'm not too worried. I am watchful and waiting, however.
     
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    .5% case fatality rate is good news... but keep in mind that the virus is mutating to become resistant to Tamiflu. The fatality rate may increase if antiviral medications become ineffective.

    The good news is that so far even the Tamiflu-resistant strain is still vulnerable to treatment with Relenza.
     
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    That is true and as a RNA virus it can morph, as we get into the fall we will know more...The interesting point here is that most folks in this season that are susceptible to it cannot wear a N-95 due to respiratory compromise.

    If you are are generally healthy and practice good hygiene you should be fine....The CDC is planning a conference next month and the FEMA folks whom reside out in Mount Weather are planning....

    Be alert, be informed, you should be fine.

    Dave
     
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    Seems to me every year "They" come up with something that's gonna wipe us all off the face of the planet. This Swine Flu was to be it as well. Now look just a few weeks of total panic, and it dies down to almost nil in the news. I'm tired of everything coming to get me. It may be killer sharks or bees one year, then friggin anthrax, west Nile, SARS, now the friggin Swine Flu.

    Sorry for the rant, but people need to friggin calm down if you ask me. Live your life. Being scared out of your wits about every bug, and critter out there is worse than having no life at all. IMHO

    Not tryin to start a fight or anything, I just want to add my $0.02. Like it or leave it.
     
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    Fishwolf -- your point is well taken; however, I'd suggest that perhaps the fact that there is no media coverage of swine flu now is due to short-sighted provincialism on the part of American news organizations than any reflection of reality.

    In the Southern Hemisphere, flu season is getting underway and countries like Australia and especially Argentina are experiencing an overload in their health care systems due to the virus. The impression I get from the news coverage I have seen is that it's at least as bad in Argentina now as it was in Mexico City when the authorities shut everything down.

    ETA: I'm not scared, and haven't been scared of anything really since 9/11 went down. I just think it pays to be informed.
     
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    Your right it does pay to be informed. Nothing wrong with that or being prepared. Heck thats what EDCF is all about. I'm just tired of people freaking out over the slightest thing. And believing everything the Gov. or Media tells them. :lolhammer:
     
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    ITA. :hug: I wish people would understand that they wouldn't HAVE to freak out if they would just take some responsibility for their own safety instead of waiting for the government to come save them.

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