It definitely doesn't offend me; I just don't like the look of shorts on myself. I'm still working on finding something I really like. The kuhls that were suggested seem like they'll work just fine, but I don't like all of the extra stitching. I might just deal with it. On the renegades, is the mesh ventilation/pocket on both sides or just on the right? I also got a couple of these evaporative towels. Something about polyvinyl alcohol absorbing water and then letting it evaporate from body heat. They seem like they're going to help a good bit. Also, merino wool is a godsend. It's fantastic at regulating temperature, better than anything else I've worn (well, 2nd best, whatever my cycling kit is made of is the best, but those are $130 shirts and $200 shorts and look absolutely stupid if you're not on a bike). I've been wearing these super light pants I found at REI that seem to work. They're just cut like what '90s middle schoolers wore. So, I think they look stupid. A little bit of taper would do the legs a lot of good. Sadly, I don't remember what they are, I'm wearing them, and there's a dog asleep on my lap. So, I can't check at the moment.