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Shrinking an HID key fob

Discussion in 'Keychain Tools' started by greekfire, Aug 19, 2012.

  1. greekfire

    greekfire Empty Pockets

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    I've got a relatively minimal keychain right now, but I have an issue with the bulkiness of an HID RF key fob I have on the ring.

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    Has anyone tried cracking one of these open and mounting the internals on something smaller so it takes up less room?
     
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    yes.




    but not successfully.
     
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  3. dyril

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    The easiest way to not damage its internals might be to take a Dremel right to the seam and ruin the case in the process only to realize the high chance that it's already space-efficient and so there's no point.
     
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  4. Gnarly
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    Greekfire:

    Yer not alone: nobody here loves 'em.
     
  5. LausDeo

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    Those things are made by the devil.
     
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    Agree!

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  7. EndlessFields
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    Or you could speak with your IT department or security vendor about different fobs. Working for a company who installs door access systems that use those fobs, I know there are TONS of different styles they can come in. Some much smaller than that.
     
  8. greekfire

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    Ah, I thought that one style of door system went with one kind of fob. I'll have to ask around and see if they're open to me getting one of a different style. Thanks EndlessFields!
     
  9. Kripto

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    the problem is, there aren't a whole lot of choices for HID fobs. Usually the two choices are a card for your wallet or that small keyfob. I'm pretty sure that the antenna goes around the inside by the seam and if you crack it open, you will likely clip/short the antenna rendering it useless.
     
  10. bigguy02

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    I really dont find them to be so bad, granted mine are on my web belt most of the time and not in my pocket, but the times they have ridden in my pocket they did not bother me.
     
  11. greekfire

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    Whoa, there are wallet size cards too? Are they bulky? I think I'd prefer one hidden away in my wallet than on my keychain. Does anyone have experience with the card form factor?
     
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    I have one of each kind and I still prefer the fob style to the card. The card style has the electronics in a raised circle of plastic mounted in the center of the credit card sized piece of plastic. This makes the whole thing very thick for a card and it also causes damage to the electronics when you sit on the wallet if it's in a back pocket. I destroyed my first one after only a month by doing this. My employer told me that the card was never meant to be placed in a wallet but rather worn behind a name tag on a lanyard or clip.
     
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    Not a good idea if you sit on your wallet. I am sure for those that do, have had cracked cards. Cracked prox cards irritate mgmnt ;) I personally dislike HID but it is one of the most popular systems installed. I typically install Rosslare card systems & it does not work for HID systems. The fobs are a bit more round, not as streamlined but the cards are much more robust. Also I carry both cards on a lanyard that has a clip. I clip it to my pocket, stuff neck lanyard inside pocket & let cards dangle. If I dont need cards exposed they slip inside front pocket. I can also remove & wear it around neck when I need it and use the clip to hold them tight to shirt so they don't flop as much.
    One thing I have noticed on my hospital HID card, you have to face it the right way to get it to work & it has to be held closer. Just a couple reasons I prefer Rosslare :)


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    My HID car lived n my walle an is also my employe I'd, its not much thicker hen a credit card.
     
  15. Kilted1

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    The HID cards are about twice the thickness of a credit card. Pretty durable though, I've had one for 12 years and never had an issue. I don't carry that one all the time because I have a Lenel card in my wallet and they don't play well together. HID has cards that are thinner as are the ones from Lenel, I've seen these die if bent. If you put them in front of a strong flashlight, you can see the chip and the loop antenna.

    I front pocket my wallet so it's not in danger of getting sat on but I'd jump at the chance to have one of those key fobs instead. Clip it to a self-retracting cable (whatever those things are called, can't think just now) and put it on a belt.
     
  16. Kripto

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    yup, they look like this..

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  17. Kripto

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    As a side note, they do make HID cards that are exactly the same thickness as a credit card now. I've got 4 of them for all of the Colocation Facilities I have access to.. lol..