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Scottevest/Brad Thor collaboration softshell.

Discussion in 'EDC Clothing' started by Kraid, Aug 15, 2013.

  1. m2usa

    m2usa Empty Pockets

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    I have two items from Scottevest. A rain jacket that I bought back in 2005, and a newer fleece jacket 7.0. I have to say, it does hold the gear you want to have with you, but it does get a bit cumbersome. I used the jacket back when I went to Europe, and haven't really worn it much since. The fleece though is better for the Bay Area regarding temperature. This is what I carry in it:

    1. Moleskine pocket notebook
    2. S&W tactical pen
    3. Preon P2
    4. Pentel Kerry pencil
    5. Home and car iOS chargers
    6. iOS Lightning cable
    7. USB mini cable
    8. Altoids FAK
    9. Eyeglasses
    10. Sunglasses
    11. Business cards
    12. Bic lighter
    13. Bose noise reduction in-ear headset
    14. When needed, my iPad Mini

    The downside it that it is a fleece that now weighs close to 4 lbs or so. Also, the fleece starts to pill very easily around the neckline. The sleeves are also of lighter weight fleece and seem like they might wear more quickly than the rest of the fleece. Still, it was a gift, so I'm not complaining too much. I still find that Mountain Hardware gear fits me better although they don't have all of the great storage options.
     
  2. microbe

    microbe EDC Junkie!!!!!

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    Anyone that owns one of these 50 pocket jackets ever ended up drunk and forgotten in which one of those hidden pockets the keys where stashed? :D
     
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  3. ambaal

    ambaal Loaded Pockets

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    One thing that worry me about scottevest is the amount of negative posts in the net. They seem to concentrate on three things - attitude of the owner, spotty customer service/warranty and quality of materials/work. First two do not bother me much since I'm in australia and not going to use their CS anyway, but the last one is worrying.

    That said, I've just ordered couple of their vests (happened to have good discount), we'll see how they are when they arrive. It's a bit of a pity that there aren't too many companies offering well pocketed clothes. I used to really like Eotac, but they are out of business now.
     
  4. m2usa

    m2usa Empty Pockets

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    @ambaal - Yes, I feel that the quality could be higher. I wish the Fleece 7 came with YKK zippers, velcro adjustable wrist straps, an adjustable waist cord, and a higher resistance to pilling on the fleece (especially on the neckline.) I feel that others who specialize in these types of garments have overcome these issues already. Of course, the one thing it can do, is carry a lot of your usual gear. It will weigh a ton though!
     
  5. ambaal

    ambaal Loaded Pockets

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    Ok, I finally received my QUEST Vest and Travel Vest (hell, if I'm game, can just as well go all in :). Along with those vests I've also received a mixed set of emotions towards them.
    I guess I need to do full review of those two (and all other EDC-relevant vests I have as well, since I happen to have about four more :).

    The design is great. Like, really great, in both of them. QUEST, frankly speaking, is close to what I would call a masterpiece in that respect: I can't think of the way pockets could be distributed better. Feature-wise both of them are really nice too, lots of pockets are really to beef up total count (like an SD-card pocket that can hold only 1 (one) SD card, or a coin pocket with capacity of one coin exactly), but those gimmicky pockets don't actually spoil anything or take any meaningful space/weight. Size was spot on too: they both are exactly as specified on website. They also look pretty great for a well-pocketed vest (or any vest in that respect), although tend to get really ratty real fast.

    Workmanship also better than it's used to be. The problem, though, are materials. They are THIN. Like proper, capital letter thin. Quest vest is slightly, but my wife (cloth designer/manufacturer by trade and education) first impression was "Wow, thats really cheap polyester". It kind of does make sense in case of Travel Vest, to keep it as light as possible (it is unbelievably light), but, really, such fabrics have no place on any load-bearing stuff. No matter how well you stitch something, if material is like 50 denier weight, it's not going to last. That said, for such flimsy fabrics vests do remarkably good job containing items, but only as long as those items are nice smooth shape and not too heavy. Hanging a knife on a clip? Well, it will work once, you will get a free hole with it. Multitools in pockets? Mostly nope. Quest vest is better in this respect (it actually have few rather sturdy hang loops and pockets, though those are still attached to featherweight fabrics), but both are nowhere near what you can do with proper vest.

    This is where my problems with SeV stuff come to life: if quality and strength of materials would be any close to those of 5.11 taclite vest, I would be happiest vest owner on earth. But they are not, and price is steep for that sort of materials. I'm not sure how long those two vests are going to last, but i have an uneasy feeling it won't be too long. I also have a feeling that SeV is not going to beef up fabrics any time soon (why, if people buy them anyway?), and their approach to sueing anyone who comes up with familiar design isn't helping my hopes of getting sturdy vest. Which is a shame, as design itself is really great.

    So, for infrequent use with mostly tech items like phones/tablets/etc they are great. In fact, if you load them with items they show in X-Ray view on their website, you are going to do well. Travel vest is spot on if you use it for this: travel on airlines and such. As for EDC with usual EDC assortment of knives/guns/flashlights - well, yes, but you either have to die pretty soon or keep getting them fixed.

    I bought two of mine to kind of satiate my curiosity and possibly get couple of nice clothing items. Would I buy them again with the knowledge I have now? Yes, if I have enough 'gadget' money I probably would. But certainly not expecting something I can rely upon daily, and mostly because there really are nothing comparable available.

    I'll keep wearing them daily for at least next few weeks, and if there is enough interest might even cough up review or vest comparison across my other ones. Really hope that I'm wrong and they are going to last.
     
  6. ambaal

    ambaal Loaded Pockets

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    it actually is pretty hard to do with those vests: you do feel what's where (i have 42 pocket vest, it's the most pocketed one). Plus, they have a really nice lanyard for keys in left handwarmer pocket.

    Besides, even while total amount of pockets is huge, there aren't that many meaningful ones. The rest are usually very specialised pockets inside pockets. I certainly have more trouble locating stuff in my other, not so generously pocketed vests.