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Plumbing answers...ask the A-team

Discussion in 'The Breakroom' started by SAKplumber, Nov 3, 2013.

  1. ran23
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    with the temps getting down to the 30/20's my water heater is dumping out about 10-12oz of water each night. About 13 years old, is this a problem coming up??
     
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    It's 44 out and the water has stopped, too bad the floor mats soaked it all up.
     
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    Electric?
     
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    Well, I guess it could happen with gas too. Your saying that water leaks from it,(the tank) or from the tempurature & pressure relief valve?
     
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    Sounds to me like its old, full of sediment, and can't accurately take the water temp, so it overheats and leaks until the pressure has lowered.

    Am I close?
     
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    Gas, and the 'pressure relief' is the valve on top? that dumps down. So far today , in the 40's, it has stopped any leaking. 20-30 next few days.
     
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    Sometimes they're on the side...sometimes the top. Yellow brass valve with a flippable silver metal lever on it (Don't touch it!...really, it should be checked every year, but if its old it will leak after you operate it) Yes, it dumps to the ground or the exterior of the home. It lets off extra (over) pressure. Likley operating correctly if the heater is overheating due to inability to takes its own temp.(so changing the valve if it's leaking out there will not fix it...a new one should do the same thing)

    How old is the tank?

    If it is as I think, the way to make it last as long as possible os to turn the heat down. The way to fix it is to replace the entire heater.
     
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    Probably with the house, 2003. I think I read, not to open it if you never have before. fun year. thanks.
     
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    I have seen tanks stretch and leak when they were at their hottest after a heating cycle. So every night when the thermostat called for heat to bring the water temp up, the tank would swell (thermal expansion) and leak a little. Came and went (so they thought) and eventually will burst the tank.
    One day you'll get up and have low water pressure and warm only, not hot, at the tap. You'll check the heater and it'll be ruptured...










    ...and thats how they gettcha!:mad:
     
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    They are made to last 8 to 12 years, wholly dependant on the hardness of the water in your region.

    I'd say you got your money's worth. ;)
     
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    now to break that to my wife.
     
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    You could turn the thermostat down, and suffer cooler water, but put less stress on the tank, therefore "buying" you some extra time.
     
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    Most people don't "budget" for a replacement water heater. In fact, I don't either ;)
     
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    which is better? gas or electric for a 50 gallon heater. and which is better? tank less or traditional.
     
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    Jut the two of us here. retired folk
     
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    Yes....yes it is.
    So thats your altered ego?
     
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    so, gas. and trad. ok something like that.
     
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    Depends on stuff. Tankless is better in gas.
    A gas tank heater will operate when the powers out. Tankless wont.
    The rest is really preference
     
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    Tankless is also $$$$$$. I've changed our tank one a couple of times by myself, fun because it's on a pedestal. Thank goodness for a floor jack.
     
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    A 50gal for two retired folk, that's kinda big, unless your taking large baths each day? Even a 40 would be big, if you want to save a few, I'd downsize but stay gas.. JR