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ok not easy to conceal, but works for me!

Discussion in 'Handguns' started by TYWRAP, Aug 6, 2008.

  1. TYWRAP

    TYWRAP Empty Pockets

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    Mossberg 930SPX

    8 rounds, semi-auto, 18.5"

    Mods: Vang metal safety, Choate pistol grip fixed stock, Barrel clamp, MAX 100 Knob (not pictured)

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  2. SALT

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    Sweet scattergun! I love shotguns
     
  3. smokelaw1

    smokelaw1 Loaded Pockets

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    That'll keep the damned squirrels out of my birdfeeders!

    Note: I have no birdfeeders, and do not use a 12 gauge to rid my yard of squirrels....beagle-aussie shep mix takes care of that. If I were to use a firearm, it would be a .22. Just joking about it. Jeez.....

    Sweet gun. Should I replace the HD shotty...that might be a nice option.
     
  4. Sharpdogs

    Sharpdogs Uber Prepared

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    Very nice! I have always had a soft spot for Mossbergs, since my first shotgun was a Mossberg 500.
     
  5. Shike

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    Very nice indeed!
     
  6. ThChrMn

    ThChrMn Empty Pockets

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    What ammo do ypu use for home protection?
     
  7. bartsdad

    bartsdad Loaded Pockets

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    In the scatter gun I like to start with 00 buck and alternate with slugs. Keep'em guessing.
     
  8. TYWRAP

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    3" magnum 00 buckshot (winchester)
     
  9. TYWRAP

    TYWRAP Empty Pockets

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    I'm very happy with the mossy. After the intial breakin with high vel. rounds (>1100fps) she eats anything. I put 200 rounds with one FTF which seemed to be a bad round (my buddy tried it also). It is a attention grabber though at the range when firing 8 rounds as fast as you can pull the trigger. Was even asked if I needed a ATF form to own that particular model. :evilgrin:

    Looking to maybe get a Eotech red dot a bit later.

    BTW if anyone is looking to pick one up try Dicks Sporting Goods. I went to 5 gun shops and none of them had them and wanted MSRP for a special order. I went to Dick's after speaking to another owner and they had 2 instock.
     
  10. Dirty Bob

    Dirty Bob Loaded Pockets

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    Very nice shotgun. If you want a fun challenge, try some clays from a hand thrower sometime. I find moving targets really helps me in improving my smoothness and speed with my shotgun. Cheapo Federal or Remington target ammo would be great for this exercise.

    Are those sights stock on that model or aftermarket? If the latter, who sells them?

    Have fun with that shotgun!
    Dirty Bob
     
  11. TYWRAP

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    The Ghost Ring sights actually come on that model (as well as the pic rail) . I think they are LPA sights if I remember correctly. Very nice adjustments for iron sights.
     
  12. clutchUSMC

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    They are LPA sights, very nice as they run about $200. I don't know how I feel about the stock, with one hand on the pistol grip and one on the forearm you can't work the safety. Maybe not the best design.
     
  13. Mud

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    Good lookin Blaster
     
  14. TYWRAP

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    Safety is off almost all the time. It remains in "cruiser mode" so a quick rack of the breach and ur ready to roll. Though I understand for some situations the safety has to remain on. It's not as bad as you'd think with the grip to operate the safety, but it is way better feeling when your squeezing off rounds. :pirate:
     
  15. TYWRAP

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    thanks Mud :)
     
  16. clutchUSMC

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    I just wouldn't want to give up the extra round.
     
  17. Yablanowitz

    Yablanowitz Loaded Pockets

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    Number eight birdshot. At ranges that justify the use of deadly force, the shot won't have time to spread and will strike as a single mass. Any misses or overpenetration will lose velocity quickly, reducing the chance of injuring or killing innocent bystanders. A twelve guage rifled slug can easily go through a burglar, two layers of sheetrock and a six year old child at the ranges typically found inside a house.

    Just my take on it.
     
  18. razorsdescent

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    vermeire Loaded Pockets

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    From Ammunition for the Self-Defense Firearm

    "If you simply want to know the best defense load, go out and buy: 12 gauge 2 3/4" shell 00 buckshot. You shall live happily ever after, as this is the most effective man-stopping firearm cartridge yet devised by man. I recommend the Federal "Classic" (F127-00), Winchester Super-X (X12RB5) or Remington Buckshot (SP12BK-5PK00) as the best double-ought buckshot defense rounds. One of these rounds is virtually equal to a nine-round burst from a submachine gun, with every round hitting.

    Effective shotgun technique, of course, requires that one hits with each shot. Don't think that you can merely point the shotgun in the general direction of your attacker and let fly. Read Ayoob's book 'Stressfire II: Advanced Combat Shotgun' for the low-down on good shotgun skills and then practice, practice, practice.

    Many experienced shooters prefer #4 or #1 buckshot to 00. I really cannot argue, but Lt. Marshall is on record as stating that 00 is superior, both in penetration and stopping power. Good enough for me, but if you have a #4 or #1 buckshot jones, go ahead (Ayoob favors #1). Stay away from 2 3/4" Magnum or 3" Magnum loads, however - the brutal kick of these rounds makes them a bad choice, and you gain nothing in stopping power over the 2 3/4" standard loads. Controllability is important, and standard 12 gauge shells have quite enough kick as it is.

    A note on shotgun spread: firing your shotgun does not create a diabolical cone of doom destroying all in its path. If you have a typical defense or "riot" gun with an 18"-20" open-choked "cylinder" barrel, the pellets will spread out about 1" for every yard of range. This means that the spread of pellets fired across a large room (18') will be 6" or so, a circle the size of a coffee cup saucer. At 50 feet, the spread will be the size of a large pizza (16"). Test-fire your shotgun at various ranges, using big white butcher paper targets to get an idea of the pattern you can expect. It is a common misconception that blasting at foes ten feet away will take out two or three of them. The spread at that range is just three inches, so you can see that I meant it when I said that the shotgun must be skillfully aimed and fired just like handguns and rifles. The shotgun is simply more likely to hit - and stop - the attacker.

    Slugs are potent manstoppers, but have limited application for self-defense. Slugs have ferocious recoil and often over-penetrate. There are special situations where slugs might be preferred over buckshot (e.g. road-blocks, barricaded foes), but if you are interested in such esoterica I again direct you to Ayoob's masterful tome 'Stressfire II: Advanced Combat Shotgun'. This guide is for general civilian readers; policemen, soldiers, and gun enthusiasts should rely on Ayoob's in-depth expertise.

    Don't be a knucklehead. Stay away from weirdo rounds like rubber buckshot or neoprene slugs. These are riot-control rounds designed for massed police use against violent mobs. Don't rely on such marginalia to save your life.

    Two things to keep in mind about birdshot. The first is that birdshot is as lethal as buckshot at close range. Don't believe for a second that you can just wound someone with birdshot and he'll go on to live another day. If you aren't justified in killing a man, you aren't justified in wounding him, either. Never "shoot to wound." I once again direct you to read Ayoob's 'In the Gravest Extreme' and learn the truth.

    The second thing is that birdshot makes a lot of sense for home defense. I keep my home-defense 12 gauge loaded with two #4 birdshot rounds followed by 00 buck. Birdshot is much less likely to penetrate thin interior walls and kill innocent people on the other side, and has lower recoil than buckshot for faster follow-up shots (I live in a thin-walled apartment house, however - if I lived in a solid house with a lot of land around, I would definitely choose buckshot instead). The stopping power of birdshot should not be under-estimated: at ranges out to thirty feet or so, birdshot is virtually a solid column of lead. Choose any #4 or BB high brass lead hunting load. I like the Federal "Classic Lead Hi-Brass" #4 birdshot (HI26-4) and Winchester "Super-X" #4 high brass birdshot (X12-4), but there is little difference between the various choices. Buy whichever you please. If you're a bird hunter, use your favorite hunting shells as long as they are #6 or larger."



    Just one man's anonymous opinion. But having read the entire article I give him some credit. The article discusses a lot of cartridges as well as some theory. It's a good read.
     
  20. vic2367

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    sweet shoty,,, :)