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No CCW In Company Cars: Your Opinion?

Discussion in 'Handguns' started by grayman, Nov 20, 2011.

  1. HaroldB

    HaroldB Loaded Pockets

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    I can get another job, I can't get another life.

    My job says, "No weapons of any kind." I carry concealed every day, concealed means no one knows I have it.

    In 40 years of CCW, not once have I been stopped and searched while working. I'll continue staying alive.
     
  2. mwestjeeper

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    So, what other company policies do you blatantly disregard? Or do you just pick and choose? Follow their rules that suit, blow off the ones you don't like, all the while cashing their checks?

    As long as 'no one knows you have it' I guess that is pretty much what they mean by 'no weapons of any kind'.
     
  3. JonM1911

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    I'd rather be out of a job than dead. Plain and simple, you never know when the situation will arise where you need your weapon. I avoid places where I can not carry at all costs. I ALWAYS have atleast a knife on me. The only time I have never had a defensive tool of some sort on my person, was flying to Puerto Rico. Once I was out of the airport, pocket knife went to its home spot and stayed there until I flew home. I do contract work for a County Engineer that is located in a courthouse. I get a 12" screw driver and a Leatherman past security every time I go. Granted I'm a law abiding citizen and they call to verify that who I am, but they don't consistently escort me upstairs and I'm not there all that often, so they don't know me. Company wants to fire me for protecting myself, fine, I don't want to be working for a company that values me so little as to remove my right to self preservation...no matter how long I've been with them. I hope its a comfort to your families if something happens that, well, at least he didn't break company policy.
     
  4. cyberhh

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    I would not violate company policy on this. I could see the defense using that against you if you were ever forced to use your firearm in self defense. "Your honor, the defendant was already acting in a deceptive manner by violating his own companies policy and carrying a weapon in his company vehicle and they fired him for it. With that record of deceptive behavior how can we trust his word on the sequence of events?" --- I am not a lawyer, however I can see that nothing good will come of it in court.
     
  5. grayman

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    Well I made it to St. Louis. So far the biggest problem I've encountered is the price of drinks at the hotel bar. They are absolutely ridiculous, but it will take more than an over priced dirty martini to scare me away!!

    I'm in a large business district with what seems like little housing around so I'm not too worried about the area.

    Clearly I've drank too much as I keep having to retype stuff.......
     
  6. JonM1911

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    Well I won't scare you with statistics since all is going well haha. Glad you got there ok and hope all goes well.
     
  7. Rudy222

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    My current employer has no choice. I'm a retired CHP officer and carry a concealed weapon on my person everyday.
     
  8. grayman

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    Statistics are why this thread got started. Like I said the area I'm in is nice, but I plan on venturing out to the Vintage Vinyl store today or tomorrow. I'm curious to see what a difference driving 10 miles east will make.
     
  9. D50boy

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    I'd love to carry at work, but it's against agency policy. Funny thing is that I work for the State of Texas....yes, the ones who *issued* my CHL. I can't have a firearm or ammunition with me if I want to stay employed. It's not allowed even with Rick Perry as Governor- which is surprising because I can go next door to the Capitol building and show my license and be allowed to carry there all day. We've had a few shady looking characters come into our office before and who knows what they are bringing with them unchecked. Our agency deals with the public and unfortunately can't make everyone happy. The "security" is a a few retirement aged people with a walkie who sit in the first floor lobby desk. I have a 2oz can of Fox 5.3 and an EDC pocket knife which is better than nothing.
     
  10. dovk0802

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  11. Monocrom

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    I know neighborhoods with a reputation for one block being safe, but the very next one isn't. Forget miles. Sometimes the difference is literally block to block. Even then, it's a difference of a bit more dangerous than other places. There's no place that is significantly safer than another place. That's just an illusion that some folks use to make themselves feel better.
     
  12. RockyNomad

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    Its not like on tv. You can't just present anything you want in a trial. It must be relevant to the charges and any attorney worth his salt would object to this. Besides, a true self defense case will probably not even go to court.
     
  13. Mcameron

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    i wouldnt count on that.......as that depends on a variety of factors, not just whether it was a "true self defense case".....

    pretty much, unless you live in a gun friendly state, are attacked in your own house, have several wittnessess, the attackers intentions to kill you were flat out clear, and the AG was in a good mood that day.......fully expect to go to trial...and even that is no guarantee


    because honestly, from the polices point of view......its almost impossible to tell a "good guy" from a "bad guy" at the scene of a shooting.
     
  14. Monocrom

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    Another deciding factor is the D.A.

    If he just hates guns in general, look for him to use whatever he can get his hands on to make you another notch on his belt.

    It could be the smallest thing in the world, he WILL latch onto it like a hungry pit-bull.
     
  15. dovk0802

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    It can be almost impossible farther down the line. One of the worst things I've had to do was sit on a jury for an attempted murder case. Big guy was shot in the neck. Defense for the little guy said self defense. I couldn't tell you what happened, but I don't think there was a good or bad guy, just a couple of pretty good guys who wound up in a bad situation. Still bothers me...