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Nitecore Tip - first impressions - Nitecore Tip and Thumb

Discussion in 'Flashlights & Other Illumination Devices' started by Weko, Sep 12, 2016.

  1. Weko

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    Just got both in the mail and am charging them to try out tonight. This is my initial impression of both.

    First of all the Thumb. In one word - blah. Almost 3/4 inch longer than the Tube with the same 45 lumen rating. Clip on the back almost doubles the thickness and almost 3/16" wider. Adjustable head will not stay flat. I got the UV version which is short ranged but ok. Weighs more than my Tube,P-7 clip, Vargo whistle and kW key combined. No low setting for the light but on the positive side, longer run time at 45 lumens (rated at 2 hr). Red/ blue police warning strobe - flashes red/red the blue/blue. Need to test this in the dark, but seems like a marker flasher only.
    Bottom line, unless you need the adjustable head and clip, I would just get a clear Tube and UV Tube and carry them together on a P-7 clip.

    Now the Tip is a different story. It's roughly 1/4 inch longer than the Tube, about the same length as my Surefire Sidekick. About 3/8" narrower compared to the Sidekick, or 1/8" wider than the Tube. Approx. 1/8" thicker than the Tube and @1/8" thinner than the Sidekick. Interesting to note that the Tip and Sidekick are close to the same weight. My Tip only cycles thru three brightness levels despite the packaging saying four levels. Light color is noticeably whiter compared to the Sidekick and not as blue as the the Tube. As noted by others on the forum, the Tip does not have a rubber cover over the charging port like the Tube and Touch have and the charging port is vertical rather than horizontal like on the Tube.

    I may break out a scale and micrometer to do a better comparison but for $30 shipped vs $69 for the Sidekick, unless something major happens, I think Nitecore has a winner in the Keychain light category
     
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  2. Weko

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    Update #1
    To get the Tip to turbo mode, you hold down the mode switch for longer than 1 second, it does get warm quickly. The metal case is also a aluminum stamping. It will be interesting to see how it holds up in the pocket
     
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    I acquired three samples of the Tube. All died within 3 months. I don't have high hopes for those two.
     
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    Judging by some of the social media I've been reading Nitecore seemed to be tossing these things at anyone willing to write a (favorable?) review.

    A few of my friends have NCs, one an MT model, the other a Tube. Both failed within the first 6 months.

    They make innovative lights but most complaints I see on forums is from this brand. Maybe for a few years their QC was terrible, maybe they experienced growing pains.

    It looks like a great alternative to the Sidekick, but I'd probably hold out and see how they last first.
     
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    I don't know how you were able to use them for 3 months - the PWM is awful on the Tube. :unsure:

    Their QC has always been terrible. They have great concepts, but a lot of technical issues and no meaningful warranty.
     
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    Likely because I've been desensitized due to firearm muzzle flash.
     
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    Any info on how the Nitecore Tips are holding up? :)

    UPDATE:
    I withdraw the question. My Tube I bought in September 16 and used sparsely just stopped working (unable to turn on the LED, the blue light is on when charging though). So I'm not buying the Tip ... :(

    Yeah ... mine died in five months ...

    UPDATE 2:
    Ive been reading news and clicking the tube (literally about 50-70 times) and suddenly the Tube started working again. But before Id been walking my dog, I pressed the button at least 30 times and nothing. Not something I would call a reliable light ... :(
     
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    Definitely not buying a TIP - I have no idea why this light gets so much buzz when it had such a disastrous launch.
    When you have to vet sellers to make sure they have a model that doesn't drain when not in use...the light is a dud.

    Yet, there's so much interest despite a huge QC fail...I'll never get it. For me, it's always function over form. Innovation is good, but if it comes at the cost of reliability then no thanks.

    It is interesting to see the divide in many forums though - a lot of the dedicated light forums praise new designs, no matter how poorly implemented they are...whereas the general gear forums just want durability it seems like.

    With that said, I've read way too many issues with Nitecore products, seen friends NCs fail prematurely...heck, I've bought 3 Tubes and none of them have worked. Even the one that does work still has issues.

    I'm sure for light duty tactical dog walking light there might be a Nitecore product that you can count on, but for real outdoors use where quality counts I'll continue to pass with this brand.
     
  9. Weko

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    Since I had a first model tip, I accidentally turned on the lockout and encountered the issue with the power drain and was unable to turn it off. Your inquiry resulted in me pulling it out again and like your tube, my tip is working normally again, be interested in seeing how long. My Tube has been working ok over a year. Selling point on them has been the power but in reality, seldom use the highest setting. I have been testing a number of rechargeable keychain lights lately and like rechargeables over small lights that use coin or bottom batteries but have not found one that meets my wants yet.
     
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    Don't know about the tip or tube.. I wouldn't expect them to be "forever" key chain lights.. Maybe people are expecting too much from a budget light.. As for nitecore I have 5 different models and all are excellent.. I just think people are expecting too much from these budget, plastic lights.. If you want a forever one go buy a metal light like a 4sevens mini ml

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    I don't doubt anyone who has had one of these lights fail. My experience has been a lot more positive -- everyone got either a Tip or a Tube for Christmas (including a few for me) and all of the Tips are are still good. I have yet to see a Tube fail other than one that was subject to excessive physical damage.
     
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    Funny you should mention the foursevens Mini, just got two MK IIs, Copper and Titanium EDM
     
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    The Tip are metal.
     
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    I'm surprised at how many folk have had such unhappy experiences with the Tube. I have them on multiple keychains; one or the other is with me daily. I've been using them for about 3 years with absolutely zero problems. I'll admit in the beginning I occasionally had one drain where something else in a pocket activated the button. But that has not happened for a very long time!

    L'chaim!

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    All of those Tubes that survived to when I last posted in this thread (February) are still good. We had one Tip fail, again after subjected to excessive physical damage. How she did that she would not say.
     
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    My Tip' come on in pocket all the time......somehow?
     
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    I own many Nitecore lights, and haven't experienced quality control issues with any of them. I've been buying them since January of 2013.

    The only one I no longer own is the MT21a, which I gave to a friend that was more in need of a compact flashlight than I was, and I happened to have it in my car, at the time. I later gave him my old La Crosse BC-700 charger, to keep those Eneloops topped off, from time to time.

    As for the Tube, I've never thought to actually use it as a key chain light, and I just don't really like plastic flashlights, in general. In fact, I didn't even buy that one. It came, free, with the purchase of a Fenix TK51, that I purchased, used, on CPF MarketPlace, back in April of 2015.

    I don't know that I've ever have trusted that plastic housing to stay in-tact, for very long, jangling around with my many keys, loose change, and other stuff in my pocket.

    The Tip, on the other hand, with its all-metal housing shows a little more promise, aside from being substantially more powerful, and they now have a cover/clip that covers up that micro USB port, so that I think the port would stay more clean, and not allow the ingress of water. With the newer versions of the TIP, they were supposed to have worked out that excessive parasitic drain, when using the electronic lockout feature.

    Still, I'm just not a key chain light kind of guy.
     
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    I ain't going to lie, my wife hates the TIP. She can't get either to turn on and gets frustrated and starts clicking in all kinds of combos on the buttons. She even managed to get the V2 to not turn on until I played with it for a while and it works perfect. The darn thing has been so soaking wet that the red charge lights come on solid. Let it dry out and when the red solid light goes out I turn it on turbo to heat it up and get rid of any moisture left over, charge it and it keeps on going like new.

    I got a stainless version and it's much more robust with a better UI. I'll be darned if the wife can always get it to lock out and not work. I play with it for a bit and all is good. The new SS don't lock out but has a day time and constant on mode. I use the button protector so I leave it on constant on. It retired an old 2 lumen CMG Ultra I had for 15 years that was my necker always on me. A far superior upgrade, the charge lasts forever and even at 150 lumens blows it away and it does half the 2 lumens if that's all I need.

    After seeing my wife get every TIP she has handled fail, I'm certain 99% of all the fail reports are user error. The button protecting clip is genious and the charge lasts forever.

    They just aren't made for everyone, but if you can get used to the simple UI then they are for you.
     
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    I had my Tube for about half a year and after that (say 1 month ago) I couldn't turn it on. I decided to throw it away yesterday but wanted to look inside first - I started to open it and it started working LOL ... so I kept it, but I don't trust it as my keychain light anymore ...

    It was a nice little light though ...
     
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    I have 4 tubes, 1 thumb and 2 tips. Got them all just after they were released. One tube that I gave my mother in law failed. I took it apart an found some of the worst soldering I have ever seen on anything. The rest of the lights all work perfectly with the exception of the thumb. The problem with the thumb is the head does not go back perfectly in line after you have changed its position. It also takes forever to charge. The tips are OK but I've found better smaller lights in the tip category that I like better.