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Discussion in 'Alpha One Niner (bags & gear)' started by HELM, Jun 21, 2014.

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  1. mahler9

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    Looks like a great pack design - very well thought-out. Any decision on possible color choices?

    Also - can someone explain what a beaver tail is?
     
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  2. ghostyjack
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    I hope someone can as I've asked a similar question on this and so far no one has explained their point yet.
     
  3. Dan A.
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    A "Beavertail" , also sometimes called a compression panel is a flat (Usually) exterior feature that is intended to quickly stow bulky or oddly shaped items to the outside of a pack. Depending on how they are designed they can be optimized to hold things like rope, snow shovels, rain gear, helmets ect. I like them as they are great for when you dont want to go re-arranging your pack to get at something or perhaps for an item that is getting stowed and retrieved alot. Or for an item that must be quick at hand.
    Some of them incorporate pockets and some are just flat panels.
    I like them to be removable to streamline your pack such as when you are travelling on airplanes and the like.
    They seem to work best for lighter weight items because of being so far from the packs center of gravity.
    Lots of good ones on the market. Dana's "Stickit" style is a very cool one and I also like the way Eagle did one on the YOTE packs so you can have your NOD equipped helmet close at hand.

    Since this pack is intended as a more "EDC" general purpose pack I am going to make the beavertail more of a general purpose one. Optimized for clothing and smaller items. It will probably work OK for some tools and perhaps a light carbine. But in the EDC spirit I think that I am more convinced it needs to hold an 8.5x11/IPAD sized item internally and be a good place to stash your power bars more than to hold a rifle or breaching tools. Ive been putting some miles on this pack the last few days and its already pretty GTG IMHO. Helmie knows what he is doing and I am just putting final tweaks on this because he is super busy with other projects.

    I think you will find that it hits the sweet spot of good enough for 85-95% of EDC uses, 85-95% of the time. There will of course be some who have other needs/wants but its a good effort.

    That reminds me.
    Have you gents decided on a name for the beast?
     
  4. MarauderX

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    edcF Pack sounds simple and to the point


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    He said "Helmie":rofl:
     
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    How about "EDC Pack" as the name?
     
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    1. NO
    2.NO
    3. YES
    4. YES
    5. NO, CCW isn't needed as long as you have the separate laptop/tablet sleeve
    Fabulous.

     
  9. Chris C

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    Just found this thread and can't wait for this bag to come out! May of missed it but what material is the bag made out of?
     
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    Is there any ETA on when this will become available. I most definitely want one :)
     
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    Thusfar, diamond ripstop Cordura nylon. Aprox 450denier.
     
  12. Rusty412

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    Looking forward to the production of this bag, seems to have most of the features that I like.
     
  13. groovster

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    I'm also looking forward to this bag(s). Looking to move away from my sling.

    I know it's a little late in the development of things, but I was thinking that an alternative for some who want MOLLE webbing on the exterior could be MOLLEminus. It's functional and, in my opinion, appears less tactical if done in moderation. It could maybe be an option.

    Personally, I'm not one to adorn my bag with pouches, but the option can at times be handy for a sunglass case or an admin pouch.

    Thanks for all your hard work on this!

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    Again, late to the party here. An idea just popped into my feeble mind. I'm case there is not a CCW compartment, how about a zipper at the top of the bag close to the Velcro MOLLE. That way, if one used a Velcro-backed holster, one would have more immediate access to their firearm. (Could make the bag top heavy, depending on the model of gun carried in this way.)

    It could also make for quick access to other items fastened in the top of the pack.

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    Any further update on when this pack might be available? Want to be able to do some "fiscal planning".
     
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    Heard! Merry Fiscal CHRISTmas!

    DFT17 Hey!? Is Fiscal your middle name?! :eek:
     
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    Thanks thePlumbah, Merry Christmas to you as well! Fiscal....nope....much to the detriment of my bank account!!
     
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    I'll let Dan chime in on this but here's a quick pix of the revised side water bottle pouch.

    [​IMG]
     
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    what do you mean by reverse side? is the pack still a clamshell opening?


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  20. Tixx

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    It never was a clamshell design, though I would prefer that. Not sure if he edited or I initially read that the same as you did, but it was revised.
     
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