It became clear to me that this was one of those decisions that I didn't want to rush. I further found out that he won't be allowed to carry any knife until he has earned his Totin' Chip, which could be a couple months away, still. I din't realize that the Whittling Chip was only valid for Cub Scouts. At his Boy Scout Crossover ceremony he received a beautiful 10"x30" Arrow of Light plaque and a Native-American hand-made arrow and I'm glad I let that be his main gift for Crossover. I looked at the Wengers, having been a Vic carrier since my own youth, and I was very impressed with the can opener and the scissors. They are noticeably lighter, and a bit more expensive than the Vics, however, my local Army-Navy dealer has stopped receiving them and is exclusively selling Vics now. I almost pulled the trigger on the BSA retro pocket knife with the shiny brass end caps but it had no saw and was made in China, like almost everything else in the Scout Shop is now, even the uniforms. Grr!! The quality seemed very good and they had the Wenger-style can opener, but still, I just couldn't do it. I appreciate the input and if you are just happening on this thread, please post your opinion as I'm still looking and will probably make it a Totin' Chip gift in a couple/few months.