@theotherguy I have similar feelings about the Fit and Finish of the Leathermans. If I pay 80 dollars for a LM wave, I know it's a multi tool, but I have found many many many have really bad blade play in both blades. things like that. Still tough as nails. Still love them. Still carry them, especially the ones where I am able to fix the F&F problems I find myself. I just don't want to have to do that.