Hi everybody. I'm new to the forums -been reading them for a little while, but actually registered to pose this question that has been nagging me for the past few weeks. I'm about to create an EDC system that will allow me to expand my current EDC items to be better prepared for a wider array of scenarios. I'm going to employ a bag to do this. Here are my goals for the bag: -Store some, if not all, of current EDC items (wallet, keys, automatic knife, cell phone, compact handgun) -Allow capability to expand my EDC to include flashlight, multitool -Combine the concepts of an EDC bag and a Get Home Bag into one system, so items like maps, water filtration, emergency food and other items will also go into the bag. -Will carry with me every day to work into the office, as well as on weekends. There may be some situations where I will carry essentials on my person and leave the bag in the car. -Provide a capable CCW platform. I still prefer on-body carry, however there are numerous situations where its just not possible for me. So here's the thing I've been struggling with - I can't decide if I should utilize a messenger style bag like the Maxpedition Jumbo Versipack's (originally what I thought I was going to use), or a larger, more backpack-esque sling style pack (leading candidate is the 5.11 MOAB 10). There are several factors that are weighing on the decision. They are: 1 - The Versipack's aren't big enough to carry my laptop. This isn't *essential*, however I carry a laptop every day with me into the office. On one hand, it just makes sense to have an EDC bag I can carry it in since I have to carry it every day anyways. But on the other.... 2 - The MOAB 10 is one of the smaller sling packs, and even it would be almost getting to the point where I'm basically carrying a backpack everyday, which doesn't quite appeal to me as much. It seems large, and I was hoping to stay as unassuming and lightweight as possible. 3 - In terms of functionality, the sling style backpacks seem like they have better CCW capabilities - I'm thinking of the MOAB 10's velcro pocket versus the Versipack's zippered one. 4 - However, the MaxP and other messenger style bags have dedicated water bottle holders. I would use a water bottle on a daily basis. The sling style bags mostly only have the option to add a bottle carrier as an accessory. This doesn't appeal to me because those bottle holders greatly expand the profile of the bag because of their size, and they're expensive. I know sling packs have hydration pockets, but again, I'm not going to want to be wearing my pack to grab a drink in most everyday situations. 5 - This brings me to my next point - price. Thinking of the MOAB 10 versus the versipack, the MOAB is significantly more expensive compared to, say, the EDC edition of the Jumbo Versipack (roughly $95 versus $60). Cost is a big factor to me, but not the determining one. I also plan on buying a good deal of the gear I'm going to store in the bag, so it has its own dedicated system and I don't have to worry as much about swapping gear. Sorry this has been kind of a thought-dump here. I've read quite a bit on both packs, on both this forum and others. I'd love to hear your thoughts and experiences with both bags types as EDC/Get Home bags. Maybe somebody can sway me either way. I will say, right now I'm leaning towards the MOAB, but there is no clear winner in my mind.