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Maxped Gleneagle.....Meh.

Discussion in 'EDC Bags' started by cabba2203, Apr 24, 2014.

  1. cabba2203

    cabba2203 Loaded Pockets

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    Ok, I had posted in the "is your bag full" thread that my Maxped Mongo S-Type was full and I was upgrading to a larger messenger bag style. I originally wanted the Vanquest Envoy but couldn't find it in anything other than multicam at the time and went with the Gleneagle as Maxped was blowing them out and pulled the trigger on it.
    It arrived yesterday and I just got a chance to migrate over to it a few minutes ago and my overall feeling about this bag is "Meh". It's just a huge pocket with two big square pockets on the front with a flap and a shoulder strap. No attachment webbing anywhere, no orginazation, lots of extra shoulder strapping that has no kind of strap keeper on it so the excess strapping just flops around in your way.
    I'll fix that with some velcro or ranger bands.
    To keep things sort of in place and organized I have my stuff in two Beefy Organizers, M-2 waistpack, Volta batt pouch, a SpecOps Pack Rat organizer, a Martac Tac-Pad iPad case for my iPad and the rest of my stuff tucked in around them.
    With all the added weight of the organizers, maybe not a whole lot but extra none the less, it is a pretty hefty load. On a positive note, it does distribute the weight well and sits well on the shoulder.
    I don't see myself with this bag very long. As soon as I get some time .vs purchase out of it, I will be going for the Vanqust Envoy. It has way better organization features and webbing for some customization....I wish I had held out a little longer. The Gleneagle is a huge disappointment for me and I knew it going in but did it anyway because of the sale. LOL - the gear junkie madness!
     
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  2. Chet Stead

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    Got any pics of it in action?


    Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
     
  3. m2usa

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    @cabba2203 - I know how you feel. I fell for the sale price as well and got the Larkspur. Just got it today. Not really much too it. A large interior and two large velcro flap pockets. I took the back strap thing off. It just looked weird with all of the straps hanging off of it. Should have got the shoulder pad for the strap, but oh well. I wish the rolling suitcase strap had a zipper on the bottom so I could use it as a pocket when not traveling. The shipping and CA tax kinda bumped up the price more than I thought it would too.
     
  4. tigz

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    It's still a different kind of bag regardless and there's always a day that you want to give the molles a break. A new addition to the collection is always also a reason to find the "right one" which from the start never exist. The smell of nylon......maybe the clinical cause of bag addiction!
     
  5. cabba2203

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    Not yet, I'll try and take some this weekend.
     
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  6. cabba2203

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    One thing that is irritating me about this Gleneagle is that the zipper to access the main "flap" pocket is on the inside. This makes it pretty useless to me.
    It would have been great to have it on the outside so you can quickly stuff a magazine or book or whatever into the flap pocket without having to open up the whole bag. You can sort of almost get to the flap pocket zipper from the top access zippers but not easily and not in a way you can get a magazine in/out of it without some awkward maneuvering and bending the spine of your magazine or soft cover reading material.
     
  7. cabba2203

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    Yeah, this would make a good car bag, keep a blanket in it with some other items. If it were just a couple of inches wider, I could have carried my M4 in it broken down - that would have been a bonus.
     
  8. tmedina

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    I just traded my Maxpud Gleneagle and I have to agree. Overall, I like the basic concept, but the execution was horrible.

    1. The inner velcro idea just made me nuts.
    2. The long, skinny pockets with no purpose? Yeah, those were supposed to be "silencer pouches". No, seriously.
    3. One, maybe two small pockets on the front to handle basic organization would have been a huge improvement.

    In a nutshell, it's nice enough as a cargo hauler, but there are enough design flaws that I'd rather just spend the money with a company that focuses on courier/messenger bags so I know I'm getting a bag that someone spent time designing, rather than copying features and slapping them together in an unholy Frankenbag.
     
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  9. cabba2203

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    That sums up the Gleneagle pretty well.
     
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  10. Moco

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    I bought the larkspur on a bogo deal in December. out the box i felt "meh" also, this bag sucks unless you have inserts for it Maxped seems to be the biggest seller of those velcro inserts. i did manage to find a small "Admin" style insert from SO tech on blow out for pens and pencils. my other problems with this bag is that it tacos on me and i cant reach into it when im wearing it. as a short person also the strap is a bit long so i put some paracord to hold it to the other strap and moved the sinch all the way to the end of the strap. i do find the other straps helpful when im riding my bike.
     
  11. tigz

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    What I don't understand is why they won't put the Magforce messenger courier bag here in North America. Its real tactical and courier bag with the convenient quick adjust straps using hardware like those of Timbuk2. This bag you can actually keep tight and high on your back. Magforce is Maxpeds brand in Asia.
     
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  12. Moco

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    i am a bit curious myself, they have the vesper but i think its ugly and tacti-cool the maxforce looks better and also looks like its just as functional.
     
  13. tigz

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    The Vesper is not even close, Magforce have both looks and function to go for.
     
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  14. ambaal

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    I do have a gleneagle (just bought on sale) and larkspur (have it for about 4 years) bags, and I do disagree.

    They are not 'meh' bags - they are just different from usual tactical messenger offering. They are (and old Active Shooter Bag) also a result of collaboration with forum user, eggroll (although I am not a particular fan of this user manners), and are very different concept from all other maxpedition stuff. In fact, take the badge off (it's made easily removable by design, by the way, side pockets are also made so they can be taken off cleanly and easily by end user) and it will look nothing like maxpedition usual design at all.

    But most importantly, they are excellent bags:

    - They carry well. In fact, of all messengers I have larkspur carries probably is one the best, especially when loaded. You have to carry them across the back to be comfortable, and with gleneagle this is pretty much the only option. Larkspur actually really good when carried around hips too.

    - Organisation is entirely up to user. This means you will have to have some organisers/velcro attachments, but since I have them already, I can arrange bag the way I want. It does allow to have notebook pouch on front wall of the bag too - this is very important feat if you want bag to conform to the body shape. I happened to have TAD Dispatch notebook insert, and it works really well with larkspur.

    - Access to main compartment is excellent. All zippers are well placed and I can get anything out without the slightest concern that someone might get in unnoticed.

    - All pockets, apart from narrow ones on the sides are pretty clever and meaningful. Larkspur front pockets fit Pack Rat organiser precisely. Or 10" netbook in a sleeve. Gleneagle will hold neatfreak and 11" macbook air. Flap pocket is good too - it's discreet, roomy and has good access through top zipper. Front pockets don't go all way to the bottom so you won't bang them when you put the bag down and flap bends nicely into that space below them.

    - Very well made and designed even compared to other tactical gear. Main compartment has carry strap webbing going all around it - this is serious sturdiness, we talking hundreds of kg's capacity here. Almost all the weight is carried on that strap, there are no stressed seams, zippers or velcro. Overbuild, but I do like it.

    - Velcro flaps are very velcro. You can adjust how strongly they hold by either putting some loop piece on hooks on flaps or by adding patches to loop area. Flaps are managed well: you can tuck them in at least two different ways if they are not needed.

    - Carry handle is attached to the back wall, not to the flap, which means when you lift it, it does not lift or deform the flap. I do like this feature quite a lot.

    - Side pouches, as useless as they are, actually pretty handy for carrying power cords. Fold it several times so it's the length of the pocket and off you go.

    - Very subjective, but I do like the look of them. They are nice combination of low-key and tough looks.

    - Work with Janus pocket very well.


    Things that I don't like about those bags are few, but to be fair, here they are:

    - Front pockets, when covered with flaps, have substantial gaps at the sides. This kind of means small items can leak out through them and elements can leak in. Never had the actual problem, but it's there.

    - Fully stuffed with full front pockets the bag becomes a bit more squarer that I prefer. That said, all messengers suck then they are filled to the brim, and it will take a serious amount of stuff to do so with these two. In fact, I shudder at how much will go into glenagle: I had an episode where I suddenly needed to bring 2x5L oil canisters for my car and they kind of just fit inside larkspur in addition to my usual work/edc stuff.

    - Side pockets could be more useful.

    - I would prefer cross-body strap to belt strap thingie. Easy to mod yourself, but hey.

    - Original RRP was too expensive. Discount one is spot-on though.

    - Zipper pulls suck. Replaced mine with paracord. Also, zippers could be #10 or #8, but thats cosmetics only really, there is no stress on them.

    - Shoulder pad. Seriously?

    - Quick release buckle is spot on if you are lefthanded, but if you are not and you carry the bag on your side, it will be at the back.

    - Would be really nice to have strap length management akin to the one that Timbuk2 bags have.

    Now, the big trick with those bags is that they are pretty specialised. Just like any real messenger bag (that actual messengers use), you need to realise what are you buying, because chances are that you don't need a bag this big, this sturdy or organised in this way. If you do - they are nothing short of excellent.

    Make no mistake, those are big bags. Even larkspur will look funny on small-to-medium build folks and gleneagle will overwhelm most people with it's size. Are they good for EDC? Yes, but you will need to BYO organisation.


    In any case, these bags are history now, and it is a bit of shame, because it was truly original and in some areas very interesting design - they certainly contributed to the industry evolution and to my own perception of what messenger bag can be. I don't see them coming back, really, and I personally plan to cling to mines for whatever time it will take them to break apart.
     
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  15. Moco

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    yeah the organization bit is a bit of a bummer but i do like the top access zipper and the velcro. my biggest problem is since im short i have to ride the bag high and it tends to taco and to get into it i either have to take it off or put something rigid in it. Personally i like the side pouches i keep my flashlight in there, not sure if it can fit a ASP.
     
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    I don't think it's the least bit a messenger bag, but then I don't think timbuk2 counts either. If you can't adjust the step enough to get in to everything and back to high tight carrying position in a second each, it's not s messenger bag....straps that work like that have been around for a really long time.

    If you want one that's available, look at chrome and mission workshop. Maxpeds are just failures and nothing I'd ever want on a bike. For that, I use my chrome from like 2000 that still looks and functions like factory new except for some scuff marks from a crash and the organizer pocket that has some ground-up gum stuck in it.

    A really good "big open pocket messenger bag" is definitely not meh to me, but it has to get the details right, and you can tell from pictures that maxped (and timbuk2) get them very wrong.

    sent from a device without a real keyboard...sorry if something doesn't make sense.
     
  17. tigz

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    Those are dedicated bike messengers, no top handles. Timbuk2 is semi bike and office, hence the top handle and the strap padding you can shift in the middle for side carry. Both MW and Timbuk2 I use depending on the activity.
     
  18. cabba2203

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    4 Month Update.....
    Ok, after daily use for the past 4 months the Gleneagle has turned out to be an ok bag for me.
    I added some Tactical Tailor elastic strap bands to keep the excess strapping out of the way and added organizers to the bag, a MaxPed Fatty in each front slip pocket, on the big inside I have a SpecOps Packrat, my Ipad Air in a Maratac Tac-Pad, then my other stuff is in their individual bags which nest together pretty well. I added paracord pulls to the flap and main zippers and a strap shoulder pad from my MaxPed mongo. It's hefty but it's working. The two sidee flashlight pouches that are part of the bag are a little deep for my lights but I have long lanyards to pull them out. I would have preferred molle webbing on either side to ad my own pouches/sheaths but this is workable.

    Overall, I'm not as bummed out as I was originally, I made it work. I still have the Vanquest Envoy on my mind tho.......
     
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