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Leatherman Surge (new version) vs Supertool 300?

Discussion in 'MultiTools and Other Pocket Tools' started by ScottyFD, Jan 8, 2014.

  1. ScottyFD

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    My Leatherman Surge turns 7 this year and I think a retirement is in order. I think it will go from my belt to the drawer in the kitchen. So I started the fun leatherman shopping for a new heavy tool. I already use a MUT in my bunker gear so its either the new Surge or a Super Tool 300. I'm very interested in the Super Tool cause of the size of the pliers, plus Ive gotten countless recommendations from buddies about it. The only thing that bugs me is the Super Tool uses the "old school" design with no outside tool accessibility. I hardly ever used the small inside tools on my surge but the fact the two blades, scissors, and file are all accessible without opening the tool is awesome.

    Will I miss the accessibility if I get a Super Tool 300?
     
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    Yes. But if you get a new tool, get the ST300 rather than a 2nd Surge.
     
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    I just got my new Surge, it now has the same pliers as the Super Tool, and YES you will miss the outside opening items
     
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    It depends, do you like have the knife(s) accessible without opening it or not?
     
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    Other than it's classic style, I don't see any advantage to the ST300. The Surge has the exact same plierheads, outside access for the most important tools, amazingly beefy scissors, a blade exchanger that will take a regular jigsaw blade, and it is compatible with Leatherman's bit kit.
     
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    Thanks guys, looks like the surge is in my future!!!
     
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    Classic styles get that reputation for a reason. I've had both, found the Surge just too heavy for daily lugging, which may not be a problem if it is going to live in a bag or car, but any multi-tool I own has to be carryable on my person. As for the functions, a big problem I had with the pliers is because the blades are outside opening, their spines intrude beyond the handles when in pliers mode. If you are not careful enough or if your hand is in the wrong position, it is too easy to pinch your palm, especially if the jaws slip. That caused me a number of painful owies, complete with blood blisters. None of that happens with the Super Tool 300. As for bit adaptability, there is an inexpensive removable bit adapter accessory for the ST300 (plus Rebar, Juice and other LT models) that also allows the same, but the tool retains fixed screwdrivers which are sturdier and have longer shanks. In all, I think the Surge a clever design that will appeal to many users, but for me, the ST300 is the better tool.
     
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    See great point! I use the blades more than the pliers, you seem to use the pliers more than the blades.

    I also come from the first gen days of the gerber OTF multi (20+years ago), when their closed pliers had little or no gap between the handles meant chunks of palm getting pinched/cut, so conscious grip when hard plier-ing had become habit.
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    Side note, having recently discovered Vics line of multi-tools, they should not be discounted either, they build a great, solid, comfortable tool (with a lifetime warranty to boot)
     
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    That is true. I like a dedicated folder for the knife chores. That probably shapes our viewpoints on this.

    Oh, I remember it well! I never owned one, but knew guys who did and I got to play with Gerbers occasionally. Shaking out the pliers was serious fun, although sometimes just serious. Our city police bomb squad specialists were equipped with Gerbers because at the time they were the easiest opening of any pliers-based multi-tools, although I preferred ballisonging my Leatherman PST. But my work wasn't nearly so serious.

    All true, but I still prefer Leathermen :) .
     
  10. jrandom

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    Haha, the OTF flick was cool, always got people attention, and no my work was never as serious as your friends either. It wasn't until a few year ago that I actually got my own PST, I had used quite a few just hadn't ever bought one. I always like the needle-nose plier head. I own 4 different PST models now and rotate through them all. My Sideclip is the only one that will really fan smoothly.

    Funny too, while my Leathermans tend to be some of my favorites, I just cant help but love all multi-tools that are well thought and quality built. :)