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Insulated coffee travel tumbler that isn't made in China?

Discussion in 'Other Every Day Carry Items' started by choombak, Nov 19, 2016.

  1. garza

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    I have lived and worked in Hyderabad, India. He has a valid point but the American consumer does not care about his point of view. Our politicians do not care because of the cheap goods provided.

    Efficacy studies are no longer required for time released generic medications. Just chemical equivalency which has had unintended side effects. This change was signed into law by Bill Clinton. In India labels and packaging takes 2 to 3 days while it is 6 to 8 weeks in the US. Notice the generic OTC's manufactured in India.

    I like spicy southern India food and dislike the creamy northern Indian food. Before my stay in India, I disliked "all" Indian food served in the US.
     
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  2. Yablanowitz

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    He obviously believes that anything produced in China is cheap, so it should sell here for approximately the equivalent of its weight in dirt.

    Edit: Wow. I should have quoted the post I was replying to. I guess I wasn't on the last page. Here we go.

     
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  3. Thukydides

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    Nope. It don't even support the CPC as a tourist. The suicide rates on factories like Foxconn have been researched for decades as extensively as the crimes of the CPC, but Apple and other hipster companies won't care. It's on the consumers to change their behavior. I care.
     
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  4. 0dBm

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    OK, so you care. What are you actually doing about it to show that you care other than merely stating it? Do you protest in some way? Have you written to your government to determine what trade agreement exist? And have you communicated to them your disagreement with the way those companies exploit the labor?

    Do you actually know WHY those laborers continue to work in those factories with the deplorable conditions?
     
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  5. Tallboyjim

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    I'll hazard a guess that it beats living in poverty out in the country somewhere. I have asked my MP to ask somepointy questions about China's human rights and environmental records - neither of which are stellar. I've not received a reply.
     
  6. garza

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    All you need to know about politicians is how Washington reacted when President elect Trump spoke with the President of Taiwan. Who cares if the Chinese view the action as unacceptable since they do not care about territorial rights in the South China Sea or the armed standoff with India over the Askai Chin and Arunachal Pradesh. Besides he is attempting to define and limit acceptable protest action by attempting to place guilt on the protest movement while deflecting from the conduct of the Chines authority.
     
  7. 0dBm

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    You hit the nail on the head! Absolutely correct!!

    If YOU had the choice between earning the equivalent of $1.42USD/day vice starving, which would you choose?! There are places over there where you cannot even scavenge the trash bins for discarded food because someone else beat you to it. Growing your food is not even an option because you need seed and a land to grow it. If you stole the seed, the government will cut off your hand and when you harm someone while stealing the seed, you will be executed.

    Sol IF you CARE, send your hard-earned salary to some family there so that they don't need to work in some factory where their human rights are ignored while they earn what little they can to feed themselves and their families.
     
  8. Tallboyjim

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    I'm not blaming the workers - far from it, most would do the same, I would.
     
  9. 0dBm

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    The blame goes to the consumer that establishes the demand for the goods. Manufacturers provide the supply to meet the demand. IF you are a consumer of ANYTHING theses days, YOU are to blame because those third world countries produce SOMETHING that is a part of ANYTHING the you buy. You can't get away from it.
     
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    Actually, I put even more of the blame on the finance community. In particular, the obsession with near term results, which inhibits necessary investment in advanced manufacturing processes. C'mon @0dBm; I read enough of your posts to know that you know the drill and the factors (including the variables of off-shore facilities) as well as any of us on here! No, I'm not letting the consumers off the hook; but I put more of the blame on the financiers.

    L'chaim!

    Moshe ben David
     
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  11. TiBoy

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    ORCA Chaser 27-oz Insulated Tumbler
     
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    All the feel good, save the workers, etc.. Is great. But, I'm retired and I'm going to spend my $$$ on the best product within the price range I've set if its made in China or bfe I could care less.
     
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    Hydroflask makes great products they were made in the US when I first started using their products. [​IMG]

    Sent from my SM-N920V using Tapatalk
     
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    Not buying chinese products is doing precisely what I can. It's more than what most persons (including yourself from what I read) go into. I also frequently write letters to the editor and vote 4 times a year (a benefit of living where I live). China has an endless reservoir of human poverty from the countryside ready to replace death people at the assembly line, although globalisation seems not working in favor of the cpc-regime anymore and even Chinese factories have gotten too expensive for some industries. It didn't help the people though, China is executing more people than ever.
     
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  16. Thukydides

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    It's not a one way ticket. The manufacturer can establish demand for pseudo innovations to stir momentum for something with enough money. People buy stuff often because other people buy it, not because they need it or because it would improve their life in any way. The life improvement factor of an iPhone is null.
     
  17. 0dBm

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    The financiers are akin to drug dealers. The more demand, the more they peddle. The more they peddle, the more buyers come out of the woodwork. Never-ending cycle.
     
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    Yup, my point precisely when I stated that the blame goes to the consumer.
     
  19. 0dBm

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    From the Orca website:
    "Products bearing this symbol are designed by ORCA Coolers in the U.S.A., but may be produced outside of the U.S.":rofl:
     
  20. Thukydides

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