Thanks for the comparison pics! Thats brilliant and helps tons. Well now you're swaying me to the surge ha. Well up until now then, its the wave. I can carry that anywhere but then seeing the pliers on the serge, although it looks hefty, it does seem like it would be better for work, as for work, weight isnt an issue. Im just wondering for everyday carry, it may be a bit too big. Most of the time I would carry a backpack, when out on the bike, so I would throw it in there.