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Forced patina....enlighten me

Discussion in 'Knives' started by Gogogordy, Mar 29, 2017.

  1. Gogogordy

    Gogogordy Loaded Pockets

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    Not to be politically incorrect, but besides giving the impression of "character" to a knife which has yet to be earned, why a forced patina?

    Am I missing something?
     
  2. Westerdutch

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    Patina is basically a type of rust. If the steel is already rusted then its more resistant to... well... more rust ;) So 'patina' actually adds a bit of protection to some materials and since you have a say over how it rusts you can make the nicer looking and smoother black/blue kind instead of that orangy/red kind that flakes off on many types of steel for example.
     
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  3. Gary Gross

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    It's pretty much like jewelry. Some people like the beaten, weathered look. I prefer pristine and clean (even if it isn't). It's just a matter of preference.
     
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  4. DCBman

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    Exactly. A forced patina makes for a very nicely coated blade more resistant to other surface oxidation (rust). Plus, if a person is good at it, a forced patina can make for some nice designs on the steel.
     
  5. Evil D

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    Think of it as beating corrosion to the punchline. It's a controlled corrosion that (usually) doesn't end up in the form of pitting. It won't prevent further rust from forming but it can help.

    You also don't have to force a patina, there's nothing wrong with getting some fruits and veggies and slicing them up and letting it happen naturally.

    This one is all natural.
    [​IMG]
     
  6. dinola

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    'EARNED' ? Patina is what happens.. and doesn't' reflect earning at all. Accomplishments are earned... patina is not, it reflects the passage of time and to some degree, neglect. Impeccable care can inhibit patina - that would be more of an 'earning' to me.
     
  7. Gogogordy

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    I see it differently. I view the patina, on any tool as something thats earned over time from use. Like the wrinkles on a wise elder....those are earned the hard way. YMMV
     
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  8. Evil D

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    A brass candelabra covered in tarnish is a type of neglected patina. A tool that gets used regularly and forms a patina but doesn't rust, is something that has to be earned. The same tool would do more than patina if truly neglected.
     
  9. A.B.

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    Basically, if you have a high carbon steel blade, use it or put a patina on it. You can make some great patterns with some wrinkled kitchen towels and mustard

    Cheers
     
  10. 0dBm

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    Patina is a change in chemical composition and it is "forced" regardless of the time it took for that change to occur. The process occurs over "the passage of time;" however it does not, necessarily, represent the passage of a protracted period that reflects the accomplishments associated with the object. But is has, and it does for some of us.

    In the current vernacular, forced patina is just such when it is done for the sole purpose of achieving a particular hue or texture.

    Long before that term became fashionable, those of us that have been around a lot longer simply recognized it for what it is without attaching a term for it except maybe the moniker "character," a misnomer but nonetheless appropriate for what I described in the previous paragraph and one that is not thoroughly understood by those not having the requisite accomplishment to associate with the object or do not have the interest in such things such as...
     
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  11. Sheepdog149

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    I put a patina on my lucky coin, a silver 1986 American Eagle BU 1 oz piece. I used liver of sulfur gel.

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  12. Swan

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    Is that why it now says "In God We Rust"? ... ;)
     
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    Speaking of the Silver Eagle...

    [​IMG]

    The edges are polished already but I only have some w-i-p shots.

    Maybe I should make another one now as I better know the way to do it...

    [​IMG]
     
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    The LOS gives the silver a gold/blue color. Especially, when you dunk it into hot/cold water mixed with LOS. It's not rust though. It's an iridescent patina.

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    Shhh, you're ruining my joke! ;)
     
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  17. Tesla

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    My stuff is actually used, not for display. I neither hasten or delay it's inevitable signs of usage..wear & "patina" are side effects of usage for me--not something artificial.
     
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