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First time buyer - revolvers a bad idea?

Discussion in 'Handguns' started by crwoody, Apr 30, 2021.

  1. surgetek

    surgetek Loaded Pockets

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    Hopefully you know it was a joke....right?

    Actually more of a dig to the people who think they need a Glock 19 and 7 mags for their daily carry.
     
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  2. 0dBm

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    My questions are directed to crwoody. I still await his response.
     
  3. medic68

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    The second thing you need to do AFTER training and qualifying for your CFP (as it's called in my state) and BEFORE you start concealed carry is select an insurance company that specializes in self defense coverage, including attorney fees, medical and liability. My wife and I carry separate $5,000,000 policies paid on a yearly basis. Also select an insurance provided attorney and develop a relationship so he's inclined get out of bed at 3 AM if you need him.

    Also, should you ever be involved in an incident, cooperate with the police but DO NOT GIVE A STATEMENT until your attorney is present and after you've discussed it with him. Be polite but this is vital. Most Agencies allow their sworn officers up to 48 hours before they are required to give a statement and NO agency can restrict their officers from their Union Rep and Attorneys.

    Sent from my SM-N950U using Tapatalk
     
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  4. J_C
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    Back to the original question:

    When I was a young man many years ago first learning to shoot a handgun, I learned on a Smith & Wesson Model 10, K-frame tapered barrel 6", with the plain fixed iron sights. Not mine, a friend's. Later on, I went into a career as a police officer and in those days at my department you were required to carry a 6-shot revolver that could shoot a .38 special cartridge, limited to Colt or Smith & Wesson brands, 4" to 6" barrel, which at my fairly small department, you had to provide yourself. I chose a S&W Model 66 4" which is a .357 but per departmental rules, carried it with issued .38 special rounds. Over time my skills with it improved, and eventually I qualified as a Distinguished Expert, which just meant that you shot a 97 (out of 100) or better on three consecutive qualification courses.

    So a few years later our department implemented a policy where senior patrolmen would do a 6-month stint in the detective division, which was plain-clothes (coat and tie) so I bought a S&W J-frame model 60, 2" barrel. This was in the early 80s so it was a steel frame. My qualification score with that pistol dropped to the low 70s, which was sufficient for qualification but truly horrible compared to my normal shooting. And that required that I put the larger Pachmayr grips on it, which kind of defeated the whole "concealment" idea.

    I ended up selling that gun and replacing it with a 2 1/2" barrel S&W Model 66, K-frame round butt. And my qualification scores went right back up to the mid to upper 90s, even using it with the stock grips and a Tyler-T adapter.

    I have been out of law enforcement now for over 25 years, so regular qualifications are a thing of the past. And I still prefer a good S&W K-frame over anything else for some relaxing range time.

    About 10 years ago I purchased a S&W 642 J-frame that came new with a factory trigger job. It cost a bit more, but that plus the improved boot grips made a huge difference! I can shoot it pretty well at what you'd call self-defense distances, out to 15 yards at least. I don't worry about the 25-yard range stuff we used to have to do for qualifications. My eyes aren't what they were then anyway, and as regular citizen and non-hunter, I will have no need to shoot a revolver at something 25 yards away anyway.

    But I still shoot better with a Model 64 K-frame 2" than I do with that J-frame, and better still on a 4" K-frame.

    So with that as my background - I would personally not recommend a 2" J-frame as a first gun, or a gun to learn on, unless it is going to be your only gun ever. In which case, spend plenty of time learning good skills and you will eventually master it.
     
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  5. jackknife

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    I totally agree with this 100%!!!!!

    Theres nothing like a well broken in S&W K frame. A smooth lockwork that engineers at Glock can only dream about. The best shooting handguns on earth are the S&W models 15 and its stainless version the 67, and the model 19/66. The model 66 was Mr. Bill Jordan's creation for the working lawman.
     
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  6. kikaida

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    USCCA seems to be popular among the guntubers and seems to be pretty reputable.
    https://www.usconcealedcarry.com/

    Is USCCA worth it?
    https://gunnewsdaily.com/uscca-review/

    I'm thinking of going with them myself.
     
  7. kikaida

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    What? No back up gun and magazines for the back up gun? Because as well all know, two is one and one is none. lol
     
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  8. Telstar

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    A bad Idea?.. I would say no, its not a "BAD" idea.

    Average parameters of the armed citizen self defense encounter:

    singular attacker
    few rounds fired
    at close range
    duration of a few seconds
    no reload

    There is no guarantee that your fight will fall within the statistical parameters but I accept for the purposes of reasonable preparations, that it will.

    No matter what kind of gun you select, I think that everyone should be properly trained.
     
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    Some posts that were devolving into an argument have been deleted. This thread is providing good information for new gun owners. Let's keep it civil.