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EDC question for Israel

Discussion in 'Travel' started by Moshe ben David, Aug 12, 2018.

  1. Moshe ben David

    Moshe ben David Loaded Pockets

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    Shalom all y'all!

    I'm hoping within the coming year to take my very first trip to Israel; if all works out I hope to eventually make aliyah.

    Whether as a tourist or even better through living in Israel, I'm looking for personal feed back on edc of pocket knife(s) in Israel. Especially in light of security issues of course!

    Legal limitations?

    What 'can' be carried in a practical sense?

    I include the same questions regarding multitools that have blades of course!

    Todah Rabah!

    L'chaim!

    Moshe ben David
     
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  2. Ig

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    Shalom Moshe.
    In general legal limitation are following: you can carry non locking folding knife with less when 10sm. blade. Except some public places like school and so.
     
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  3. Moshe ben David

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    Todah Rabah!

    Shavua Tov

    Moshe ben David
     
  4. OngoingFreedom

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    10 statute miles?!? Now THAT’s a KNIFE!


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  5. cyberhh

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    It that I’m any help on the edc front but in all the places I’ve been, IS is my favorite.

    If you are planning on Going to the holy city, hire a guide. It makes a big difference.

    I had a private guide for the day. He was an encyclopedia of the city and country. He was able to answer nearly any question I could think of and his love for the people made it all so personal. He also knew every person in the city and all the best places. He was able to get us into almost anywhere. Pointed out all the best places, what the customs were and was able to plan a route that did everything I wanted. I will remember it forever.

    Also - go on a Monday or Thursday. Those were the Roman market days and they are the days that prayer was allowed, so you will see a lot more on those days.
     
  6. BklynBoy

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    Moshe, I thought I was the last Jew who hadn't made it to Israel yet. I am planning on going sometime next year.
    Enjoy your trip
     
  7. Moshe ben David

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    LOL. I think I'll be the last one. Still nothing definite... are you going by yourself or in a group?

    L'chaim and Chag Chanukah Sameach!

    Moshe ben David
     
  8. Moshe ben David

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    Thanks for the suggestions. When I finally make the trip I think I have contacts covered. I actually have a cousin who lives in Jerusalem!

    L'chaim!

    Moshe ben David
     
  9. ori14

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    Israeli here!
    Hi! I read here a lot but I never registered, but I really like edcf, y'all have been very helpful! (and cost me too much money!)

    I would like to add that although non locking and shorter than 10cm are permitted, you won't be allowed into some places if your knife is found. Israel is full of security guards. Some will let enter without even checking while some may make you snap a blade on a lm ps4 (or get rid of it, true story...)

    As for police, it's generally up to the officer and not the law. Some go by the width of 4 fingers to determine max blade length.
    Slip joints may considered locking blades and you may be taken into interrogation for carrying a vic pioneer and of course have it confiscated (again, true story).

    I swear that in no way I look either troublesome or intimidating. Just really, really, really lucky...

    So nowadays in my car I just keep a sidekick with no blades and for work a cybertool29 and a spyderco pingo if needed. I leave my blades at work. Even when I go out to lunch.

    BUT, YMMV

    HAG HANUKAH SAMEACH! I hope you guys pronounce this with a proper "het" "ח"

    Adiós

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  10. Moshe ben David

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    Sorry but not surprised at what you say about blades. Except for some officers considering a slip joint to be a locking blade. Unreal! Guess when I finally make the trip I'll have to make sure to only carry minuscule SAK types -- meaning much smaller than a Pioneer! Blech!

    CHAG CHANUKAH SAMEACH! (fyi -- as a kid, what little Hebrew education I got leading up to Bar Mitzvah was from teachers who were here in the US but were sabras. So I learned sephardi pronunciation. Confused the heck out of my abba! :) )

    L'chaim!

    Moshe ben David
     
  11. BklynBoy

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    I am planning to go with a friend. My Sister suggested I book with Isram Tours. Her travel agent recommended them
     
  12. Moshe ben David

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    Thanks. I just looked at their on line brochure. Slick. And prices that support the slickness! Man, Israel is just an expensive place to visit!

    Sigh.

    L'chaim!

    Moshe ben David
     
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    A good friend of mine went to Israel for treatment for his Parkinson’s (a treatment type unavailable in these United States) and was very impressed with the people, the cusine, and level of “genuine goodness” he encountered by everyone he encountered both medically and in the public spaces, while there.

    Israel is on my bucket-list as well.
     
  14. ArkansasFan30

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    LOL

    I thought Moshe was FROM Israel.

    Pack your wits, your head swivel, fast feet and lightning reflexes, download your Krav Maga programming, and take a trauma-focuse IFAK and a good flashlight along with a whistle.

    Travel medical insurance and hamas repellent are advised.

    I had lunch a couple of years ago with an army intelligence major (or equivalent) who enlightened our little leadership group on Israeli geopolitics and threats.
     
  15. Ig

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    Actually even I can't say that everyone in our police have high IQ, the horror story above, I would say, a little exaggerated. I don't know any story about problems with non locking SAKs and similar knives.
     
  16. BklynBoy

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    I never travel anywhere outside the US with a knife other than a SAK or Opinal with corkscrew. They never raise alarm with security and I am always prepared for a picnic with wine :)
     
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    We , U.S.citizens, just competed a fabulous trip to Israel. Our last trip there was five yeas ago. On the prior trip , I was not restricted from carrrying my LM Wave tool to even the most sensitive sites, e.g. the Western Wall. This time around,our guide, a retired IDF officer, pre- waned our party that even a basic slip joint SAK would cause a problem at the Wall‘s security check point. Needless to say, we took the guide’s advice.

    At most other sites , with hand wands and bag checks, I do not believe our tools would have been a problem, albeit, we did not carry any sharps or tools. I say no problem for the other sites, because my big blob of pocket carried home keys , metal pill container , AAA flashlight, P-38 Utility-key, etc., caused their wands to beep but didn’t get me a negative response from the attentive and well trained guards. Perhaps the fact that we were obviously a party of almost all U.S.senior citizens made a difference? So take your chances, as you see fit.


    HOWEVER, A DIFFERNT WORD OF WARNING: I flew into Israel with a small repair kit in my carry-on back pack. TSA, x-rayed my pack and hand examined my small ( allowable) needle nosed plier, small reversible screwdriver and flat Pocket Wrench and was allowed to board with my tools, without further comment. But, at the almost identical inspection regime flying home from Israel, I was politely, but firmly informed that I was required to surrender the same tools in order to board, despite my mild protest that US TSA had allowed them on the in-bound flight. They did allow my blunt nosed EMT scissors, without comment. Rather than create a ruckus, I surrendered the tools and I was allowed to board with no further difficulty. So, if you want to carry a few small tools in a traveling repair kit, pack them in your checked luggage.

    All of the above aside, it was a great trip. Israelis like Americans and were uniformly friendly and helpful. We are all grizzled New Yorkers, yet we felt safer in all locations in Israel, even in the Old City in Jerusalem and the Arab Market in Jaffa, than we do in some neighborhoods of NYC. ( End Note: We all love NYC and regard it as among the safest of all big cities.)
     
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    When I traveled to the Middle East for work. I had two passports. One for Arab countries and one for Israel.

    The state department will issue two passports with a letter from the company stating frequent travel to visa required countries. Mixing up the passports could have caused denial of entry or extreme questioning.

    Now my travel is to Canada, Mexico and Europe.
     
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  19. Moshe ben David

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    Really appreciate hearing of your experiences! Plus I'm envious of the trip you took!

    L'chaim!

    Moshe ben David
     
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    Reminds me of how it used to be when I lived/worked in Taiwan and needed to travel into China...!

    L'chaim!

    Moshe ben David