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Discreet Tactical Pen?

Discussion in 'Personal Security Devices & Self-Defense' started by swiftness, Nov 7, 2011.

  1. Monocrom

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    I've owned Retro 51 cap-less rollerball pens. They use the same model in a huge variety of different finishes, materials, and colors.

    The pen feels shorter than its specs.
     
  2. Silver Trooper

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    Check out the Monteverde Stealth series of pens. These are not cheap (depending on which model and where bought, $30-65). You can get them in standard ball point, rollerball and classic fountain. While they do not have the end point, they are blunt on both ends (I think except for the fountain pen), so you do the thumbover and feel quite substantial in the hand. The all black lacquer is stunning and surprisingly grippy for that finish. For everyday use they make a beautiful writing instrument and the quality will equal pens costing much more. I have the rollerball (found it on Ebay for $28!) and love it. One last good thing...they are all metal and you can tell by the weight.
     
  3. swiftness

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    The stealth series pens are nice. I like them cause they don't have the point I am really looking for more of a kubaton like pen similar to the embassy. Honestly if I feel the need to stab someone I will use a knife, screw driver, T handle allen wrench, or anything else that I can legally carry. If I am going on an airplane and I am worried about it being hijacked I can bring a few thick 7 inch screwdrivers with me and do just as much if not more damage then I could with a tactical pen. I don't go to court very often but if I was planning on stabbing someone there (which I wouldn't be) I would just bring in a coldsteel plastic knife taped to my body in an area that would be overlooked if I happened to get frisked. So I am really looking for a pen/kubaton.
    I fixed my viagra pen which I like very much. I guess I should test it again to see if it breaks. I am starting to think that the bottom line is this stuff isn't made to be used as a weapon so they weren't built up enough. It still beats the crap out of the zebra. The other pen hasn't broken at the tip yet and it is constructed in the same way and I have been driving it into wood. Hopefully my viagra will hold up too cause I really like it....did I mention I like my viagra pen lol
     
  4. Ddave

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  5. stevem174

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    I carry a Zebra 701 now but have been considering the Embassy pen. I have used pens as a Kubaton in the past for control and compliance but really don't have much of a need for that now. A pen fit's more of a self defense role for me now.

    Here is the basic concept that I train with for a pen.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vjz7gbM9rPs
     
  6. swiftness

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    I would carry a pen like that in a second if I wasn't worried about being arrested for carrying a martial arts weapon. That judgement is basically based on the police officer's discretion and in NYC they have definitely arrested people on weapons charges for carrying way more innocent things then a tactical pen.
     
  7. swiftness

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    I would get the embassy pen so when I strike someone with it I don't stab them. It would be more of a force multiplier for me then it would be for the pain compliance techniques. Although it would be nice to have that option too if need be. I just saw the same video yesterday. It seems like carrying a tactical pen is a lot less important then knowing how to use a pen or pointy object to defend yourself.
    PS...If you like the zebra you will love my viagra pen it feels so good in the hand when stabbing and it weighs close to my cold steel sharkie http://www.ebay.com/itm/1-LIPITOR-heavy-metal-clicker-pen-NEW-/230692590644?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item35b6599434
     
  8. stevem174

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    I am not sure how to take that!! :)
     
  9. swiftness

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    All I'm trying to say is that the viagra pen is longer, wider, sturdier, shaped to slip in ever so nicely, and will offer much deeper penetration then the zebra. I just can't keep my hands off mine I am holding it right now lol
     
  10. swiftness

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    Now that I am taking pics. How about one of our lovely contestants.
     
  11. swiftness

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    I just checked my mailbox and found another one in there. It seems to be a similar design to the Retro-51 tornado, seems to be brass and steel, 4 3/4 inches long and weighs 1.58 ounces. It is a little short but feels nice in the hand, deploys from the pocket fast, and the blunt twist cap seems sturdy enough for striking. The tip is seated deep and could be stronger then my beloved viagra.
     
  12. oronocova

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    Since reading this thread I've been wondering about my Zebra 701 which I thought was more robust. Has anyone tried to modify it to make it stronger? I'm thinking take it apart and insert a sleeve maybe 1-2 inches long? Though with the differences in ID of the grip and the upper barrel I"m not sure if it's really worth trying.
     
  13. Inner Prop

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    Ok, so going from top to bottom, I'm guessing:

    1. Cheap meds type pen (Amizitra specifically)
    2. Cheap Doctor/meds type pen (Viagra specifically)
    3. Zebra 701
    4. Cheap meds type pen (Zithromax specifically)
    5. ? ? ?
    6. ? ? ?
    7. Fat Sharpie
     
  14. swiftness

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    5. pentech matisse
    6. stainless steel sharpie
    7. sanitized cold steel sharkie

    After realizing the zebra wasn't sturdy I saw this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNS7tspnEf4 and purchased a pentech matisse. It is a very sturdy/heavy brass pen, feels kubaton like when closed, and when open has a really aggressive point. I just wish the caps walls were thicker, they are close to the thickness of a .40 s&w cartridge case and I also wish it would thread to the barrel to offer more support. It's still a nice pen for the money.
    I would have stopped looking with the stainless steel sharpie if the cap also threaded to the barrel, but it doesn't and the pocket clip also really sucks on it.
     
  15. swiftness

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    To me the weakest point isn't the thin barrel, it's where the lower textured area and the barrel are attached. they don't even thread together and that is where it wants to come apart when striking it into something hard. I have tried jb welding that area together but managed to break the weld very easily. That's pretty much as far as I have gone to reinforce the pen. Somewhere I have seen someone purchase a metal tube that was the same length and thickness as a normal bic pen to replace the plastic barrel with a nice metal one. They kept the plastic tip, butt, cap, and guts for the new pen. I am sure that would work better. Wish I remembered where I saw that.
     
  16. Furious Kang

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    Sorry to hear about your problem with the Amitza pen. Sometimes you do get a lemon. I have two, the first has been through the wringer with nary a glitch. Also the Provigil pen wtih the sivler twist cap and blue barrels are tough as nails. There another good defense pen, though sometimes hard to find. A Nexium model with silver removeable cap, purple barrel and several rubber rings to prevent slippage. I carry that one alot as well.
     
  17. swiftness

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    No need to be sorry I am so happy with my viagra pen I wouldn't dream of carrying anything. I even bought a spare just in case I lose it. The fact that it says viagra makes it an object for jokes and everyone who has seen it has something to say. I couldn't think of a better camouflage unless it was in the shape of a phallus symbol. Anyone who I even tell that that it is my tactical pen gives me a smirk and thinks I am pulling their leg. It really can't get any better then this. Another pen I am extremely happy with is my diabetes control network pen. In my hands again it just feels like a weapon and deploys perfectly. For the price I just couldn't be happier witheither of them.
     
  18. redhawk44357

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    Check out Cross pens? i have a few that would work for SD and flies under the radar for being a tacpen.
     
  19. nw1911guy

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    I actually have an idea and I'm waiting on material to show up as we speak so I can prototype it. I hope to have pics up in the next couple of weeks. Feel free to email if you're interested.
     
  20. WMoon

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    I like my Benchmade 1100 pen... it's a good item to have, especially since I'm a college student and can't carry a knife on campus. At least it's something that I can use in a pinch.