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Discreet Tactical Pen?

Discussion in 'Personal Security Devices & Self-Defense' started by swiftness, Nov 7, 2011.

  1. Towanda

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    Lamy Safari ballpoint. Comes in a variety of barrel colors, looks absolutely harmless, but is made of ABS plastic and is tough as all get-out. If you live in NYC, you should be able to pick one up at almost any quality stationer's without much trouble.
     
  2. Monocrom

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    Tough?

    I gave that model to a co-worker several years back. One of the main reasons was because of the thin and light-weight plastic body. I knew she'd never use a remotely heavy pen. It was decent, and I knew she'd like it.
     
  3. Towanda

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    ABS plastic is light and tough. It's commonly used in things like food trays, luggage, and musical instrument cases. I've had my charcoal-colored Safari ballpoint for nearly fifteen years and it still looks brand new. The others, one yellow and one orange, are much newer but are holding up well so far. I'd have no trouble at all using the narrow end of any of them in a kubaton-like manner.
     
  4. Monocrom

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    Thanks for clarifying. I meant tough in comparison to metal pens. I've seen plastic ones fail to do much damage against heavy Winter coats.
     
  5. oronocova

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    Interesting, it fooled me... I thought it was all one piece on the 701. I'll have to look at it closer. EDIT> Saw some pictures online... what a shame!
     
  6. KaraTe

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    I've ordered the Smith & Wesson and the Schrade tactical pens to try.

    I've done a lot of research on pens and didn't want something cheap, but didn't want to pay $100 for something and end up losing it. These are about $25 or so each, and that's reasonable enough. I seldom am in any type of high-risk areas, but would feel better having something around here. Either of these can be in a pocket or the S&W could be clipped inside a woman's shirt or hung on a neck chain. The Schrade I want might be a bit bulky, but I'll see how it fits inside my shirt.

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  7. swiftness

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    I had the 1st S&W pen. It was nice but I felt it needed a sheathe. I feel like the thing was going to wind up stuck in my leg. It was so pointy I went through a basic kubaton move with very little pressure at all and wound up stabbing someone. I felt like a jerk and got rid of it. In my opinion it also looks like a weapon to much anyway. The S&W logo also doesn't help. I prefer the schrade cause it is a little more blunt at the tip but it still looks like something you would find on a vampire hunter.
    If I could have any I think I would go surefire. Not only does it not look intimidating, they marketed it the right way.
    "The SureFire™ Pen boasts a rugged aerospace-grade aluminum body with an ultra-durable Mil-Spec Type III hard anodized finish. This retractable-tip pen is appointed with a tumble-polished stainless steel tip, tailcap, and heavy-duty pocket clip. The sculpted tailcap features a rounded window breaker ready for emergency use. The SureFire Pen comes with a high-performance Schmidt® Technology easyFLOW ink cartridge, but adjusts to accept virtually any standard ink cartridge between 3.875" and 4.25" long. Smooth writing performance, elegant yet bold design, all in a spike-tough body ready for action whenever it's needed.
    Features"
    Thank you surefire for doing it right!
     
  8. VT-aroo

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    Ebay. search on pharmacy and pen. Metal pens with some drug companie's name on it. Usually they take parker jotter guts, and go for not too much.
     
  9. swiftness

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    Very interesting idea. This pen was even described as having a very heavy feel ttp://www.ebay.com/itm/Ink-Pen-Pharmacy-advertising-Tylenol-/280769724651?_trksid=p5197.m7&_trkparms=algo%3DLVI%26itu%3DUCI%26otn%3D1%26po%3DLVI%26ps%3D63%26clkid%3D4153984405446516426
     
  10. swiftness

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    Since I work in the medical field I've had the opportunity to own some of the "drug rep pens" that you can find on ebay. The Amitiza one in the above post is every bit as sturdy as a the Unitied Cultery pen, which I also own. With security personnel in NPE's are catching on to the whole "tacticool pen" thing. One of the medical pens can pass under the radar. In fact my last job was workining in prison medical department, I carried my Amitza pen through security every day and it never garnered a second look. Also you can sometimes get two or three of the drug rep pens for the same price as you'd pay for a single tactical pen.
     
  13. swiftness

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    That was the best advice ever given by VT-aroo. I have gone med pen crazy since. I have already purchased 2 others since the Amitza. One of them is a solid barrel clicky pen that weighs 1.9oz. That's as much as a cold steel sharkie! I really look forward to getting them soon. Thank you for also telling us your experience.
     
  14. swiftness

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    Just got the Amitiza pen and it kind of a disappointment. The twist cap area isn't very strong at all. I am going to try packing the inside with jbweld or epoxy and see how it goes. I am much happier with the zithromax pen I got http://www.ebay.com/itm/1-New-ZITHR...428?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item35b51e19a4 It kicks the crap out of a zebra 701, but I still like my stainless steel sharpie more as a weapon and the cold steel sharkie rules all. I ordered a few more pens, one as heavy as a sharkie. Hopefully I will find my discreet tactical pen.
     
  15. swiftness

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    I got my favorite of the bunch today! It is a viagra pen which I really prefer cause the medication is often used in jokes making it appear even less weapon like. However, it is the same style as this one http://www.ebay.com/itm/1-LIPITOR-h...644?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item35b6599434. It weighs 1.70 ounces, is about 5 1/2 inches long in total, and feels really good in the hand. The pocket clip also rides nice and low so you can deploy it quickly. I put a magnet to it and it didn't pick up. I believe it is mostly brass. Holding this pen next to a zebra 701 is like night and day, and for the price and all other reasons stated it should take the crown from zebra as the poor man's clicky tactical pen.

    The zithromax pen is also mostly brass very sturdy, slightly heavier then the viagra at 1.72 ounces, and is 5 3/8 inches. It has a very sturdy feel but is also very glossy and feels like it may slip out of your hand easier if sweaty or "wet". The pocket clip sits a little bit high making it less easier to bring into action then the viagra/lipitor. It is still a great pen and given the choice I would rather use one in a self defense situation then a zebra 701 or parker jotter.

    I have one other style coming which is similar to the viagra but the back end twists instead of clicks. I am hoping it is even better so I can have the choice use the back of the pen for less lethal striking without opening and closing the pen, but I am extremely happy with this pen compared to any of the others I have come across so far. OK, that isn't 100% true. I do think the stainless steel sharpie is very nice for striking. Especially with some tape between the cap and barrel to keep it together so it "doesn't open up in my pocket" where the viagra would probably penetrate the skin through clothes. I wouldn't want to use the viagra/lipitor pen as an impact tool, it is really more of a spike. Which still keeps me interested in the pelikan pharo.
     
  16. swiftness

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    After stabbing a piece of wood 50 something times with my viagra pen I noticed that the tip was wiggling ever so slightly. Thinking I damaged the threads I began pulling it away from the pen and wound up pulling the tip out. Inside the brass barrel of the pen there is a thin threaded brass ring which is glued inside the barrel to allow the tip to thread out. I much have broken the adhesive they used to attach it to the barrel. I jb welded it back in place so I hope it holds up. I really like that pen.

    I checked the zithromax pen which I have also been driving into wood and I believe it is fine but seems to have the same design.
    Maybe I am taking this to far but I just want to know how they hold up if I ever have to use them in self defense.
     
  17. kye4some

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    Take a look at Retro 51 ti. It's a full body ti pen for around 26.95 p/s. I have had one for a few years [​IMG]and still love it, and had Nö TSA problems at all.

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  18. swiftness

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    How long is it? Do you think the rear twist area will hold up to multiple strikes?
     
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  20. mattp

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    The Retro 51 Tornado titanium is 5" (127mm) long.
    I don't have one so I can't comment on the durability of the end piece.
    Cheers, Matt