Beautiful Leather Satchel - Better Description

Manzerick · May 26, 2007

This looks like such a great bag!!!

I'd have to sell a few torches to get it but.... man.. i'm tempted!!

carrot · May 26, 2007

I couldn't let such a great description disappear into the nether...

The color of this bag is that of the first picture with the kangaroo. It is my CHESTNUT reddish brown bag. This is my easy to carry 14 inch bag ... the same size that I personally have always carried. It will accommodate a 15 inch laptop. The winner may change colors to a tobacco brown if they want. See more pics of your next bag around the world at: www.saddlebackleather.com/pages/products.htm.

Saddleback Leather Company bags are loved everywhere you go. There's a research scientist in New Zealand, an undercover government agent somewhere in Central America, an astro physicist in Indiana, a lumber dealer in China, some sort of American diplomat in North Africa and even a couple of people sailing the seven seas on their personal ships with one.

Following is a series of questions. Answer each honestly and remember, your first response is usually the most accurate.

* Will your grandkids fight over your present bag when you're dead?
* Would you ask to be buried with the other bag you're considering?
* Ever thought of documenting the life of your current bag? The fighting gets pretty intense when you die, if you keep a personal history of its travels.
* Ever told someone that you truly love your bag?
* Ever talked to your bag in secret?
* Have you ever strategically placed your bag so people could admire it?
* Are you getting ready to declare bankruptcy and one more charge really won't matter that much? That reminds me, did you know that Paypal accepts credit cards?

If you answered yes or no to any one of these questions, then you and I both know that you need this bag.

A detailed description of the design and materials used is a bit further down the page, so you may want to skip this next part. It isn't vital that you read it, but it will help you make the decision. If you want to learn about what makes one bag cost $150 and an identical bag $1500, read the detailed description of this bag. There are reasons for the price differences even though some of it is just the name brand.

Lots of people get their bags and then excitedly email me Glory Stories about their bag. This is one, word for word, I got February 11th, 2007.
"Day one with the bag and I received over 10 compliments in one trip to the Courthouse. Finished a Court hearing and the Judge calls that he wants to talk to me. I think my #%& will be chewed but all he wants to know is where I found the bag. I thought your ad was hyperbole. Turns out it was fact. Thanks again."
Tom

I'm not exaggerating when I say that you are going to love your bag. Do people who buy other bags return to buy more of the same bag to give away to friends and family? Is that normal? Happens all the time. We have dozens and dozens of repeat customers. This is the strongest, most durable and best looking bag I've ever even heard of. I can't imagine how it could be better. It is a great great bag that I, the owner, personally use daily. I bet the other owners of bag companies can't say that; they're still looking for their dream bag… mine.

The Bag

In college, I bought a pair of expensive shoes for my job as a waiter. I couldn't afford them, but I bought them anyhow. They were really light and comfortable and took me through two years of waiting tables and one year as a limo driver. Then, they still looked good for a month of Sundays. Most of the other waiters bought a new pair of $45 heavy and uncomfortable shoes every 6 months because theirs wore out and looked ratty by then. One of the principles the successful in the world understand is this: If one buys quality from the start they save money. Don't be penny wise and dollar foolish. This will be one of the most savvy investments and inexpensive bags you'll ever have.
There are lots of monster corporations out there that literally sell "boatloads" of bags everyday. We're not one of them. Millions of sheep buy theirs. A few lions buy ours. We don't have a big name, a crack marketing team or a building just for our accounting department. It's just me and Suzette, my dad Herb, and my dog, Blue, but he doesn't really do all that much. Our small family business doesn't have a huge warehouse. A small section of the study is all the space we need. Those giants have a whole lot of that we don't have, but we've got what they're all missing. We have a bag of the same or higher quality that you can't live without. We have a bag that tells of your individuality and unique tastes. Our bags have more character in one shoulder strap than all of their shiny pretty boy bags combined. You could go into a thousand meetings and wander through a thousand airports without ever seeing anyone else with your bag.

The Design
This bag wasn't thrown together in some dark and dank Taiwanese sweatshop by the hands of a 12 year old little orphan girl with whip marks on her back. These pieces were individually hand cut, carefully placed and personally sewn by weathered and experienced hands. I don't know what y'all think about prayer, but I sent up a good long one when I had my first bag made for myself. I asked God that it would turn out to be the greatest and coolest bag on Earth. I'm not kidding and I truly think he gave it to me. The original maker of the bag, Senor David, has been working leather for the past 58 years. He told me that he started as his father's full time apprentice in 1948 at the age of 10. Using his vast experience working leather, he changed my good bag into an unbelievable bag. He recently had a very major surgery and is no longer interested in working all that much. After searching and searching, I was recommended a man named Rito. He's only been working leather for about 30 years and looks like a piece of leather himself, but with a great big smile. He has a few apprentices learning from him and not one bag leaves his shop that wasn't made by him or without his approval. I believe he was sent by God himself.

Construction - This bag is constructed super tough. In Australia, I got a big green crocodile to come up to the boat and chomp down on my bag. We pulled and pulled and when he went for a bigger bite, we yanked it out. I was happy to get it back, but disappointed to find that he only scraped it up and hardly damaged it at all. (I wanted some souvenir bite marks).

The reason it didn't tear apart is because every Saddleback Leather bag is made of 4 wide or long solid pieces of leather … the front, the back (that comes over the top) and two long sides that make up the bottom. Most bag makers sew many small and shorter pieces of leather together to make one piece with many seams. Those bags are put together like quilts. They can utilize almost every single inch of the cow's hide that way. Caution: The more seams … the weaker the bag and the lower the cost of production for the manufacturer. If that croc had bitten a bag with lots of seams, it would have torn to pieces with ease. Saddleback Leather bags have only three major seams.

Dimensions - The 14" wide bag is about 11" high and the 16" wide bag is about 12" high. The inner compartments on both sizes are 5" deep and the outer is 4". They are designed for folders, laptops, Frisbees, etc. There are no zippers, snaps or buttons. Those things always break or tear out with use no matter what the quality. Saddleback Leather bags are equipped with solid metal buckles that won't break.

Backpack - I've used my bag quite a bit as a backpack. Fully loaded on an especially long trip through Poland, Croatia etc. I used it comfortably everyday. The shoulder strap detaches from the sides and re-attaches to make it into a backpack. It also has two shoulder pads so as to be more comfortable. I am 6'3" and 215 lbs. and it fits me just fine, but may not fit you. My brother-in-law, Tim, works for Cisco Systems and uses his daily as a backpack over just one shoulder.

Last year, I was on a small island off the coast of Panama and was making my way to a fabled surf spot called Wizard Beach, only accessible by foot. The boat dropped me off and I started up the trail (my little brother was already there waiting for me with the board), but little did I know that the 25 minute hike was all mud, slicker than snot. In order to concentrate on not slipping, I turned my bag into a backpack and only fell once. It is a real convenient feature. As it turned out, the waves were way too big that day, so we didn't surf.

Rings - The rings are placed for tying purposes and to act as buffers between the ground and the bag. On a hitchhiking/surfing trip through the jungles and along the beaches of far southern Mexico, I tied my hammock to one side of my bag, my thin serape blanket to the other and my flippers to the bottom.

Two Security Straps - Made of two solid pieces of leather with two solid pieces of suede, these are very important if you're traveling in places like the subway in New York City or in Guatemala City where the thieves have really quick hands. They'll steal your fillings if you yawn too long. Lots of people put their umbrellas and camera tripods under them. Did I mention that they conveniently double as belts for a size 36 waste (size 38 if you suck in)? I've also used them as a dog leash more than once.

False Bottom - I usually carry a copy of my passport and some extra cash in there. Chances are, someone is going to try to steal your bag, not just the contents, but at least they won't get the satisfaction of spending your money. They'll never find it. Free helpful hint: Always carry a 6-pack of Coca Cola while driving in Latin America. Pop one for yourself and then offer one to the cop when he first approaches and he should let you go without asking for a bribe. The culture teaches that it's impolite to refuse a gift. If he doesn't accept it, you're toast. Negotiate your way down to $5 and get on your way.

Outer Pocket - Side outer pocket for harmonicas, a cell phone, compass, map or sunglasses. Kept my little camera in there in Costa Rica. Nice to keep that handy. Did I mention that I saw a monkey riding on a dog's back?

Pockets - There are two inner pockets designed for a GPS, phone, pens, palm pilot, and coins. Very sturdy ones I might add. By the way, they're just the right size for an extra laptop battery.

Key Strap/Clip - Handier than a pocket on a shirt. It's long enough to open the front door without taking the key off the clip. I also keep a mini LED flashlight clipped on mine.

Side Pen/Pocket Knife Holders - Situated to conveniently place pens and pocket knives. They're on the inside of each side of the outer compartment.

Shoulder Strap - Comfortable and adjustable solid pieces of leather with suede backing and real tough swiveling clips on the ends from Spain. The clips are normally used for horse tack. They detach quickly to make into a backpack and also to attach the bag to things. I connect the bag strap through my guitar case handle and attach it to the bed of my truck so no one will snatch it out when I'm stopped at a light.

The Materials

If you've recently bought (3 years ago or less) a leather bag or sofa or jacket and it's gone from Ferrari to sorry in record time, then you need to read every word of this next section. If the leather you buy lasts you for years and years and is as nice or better looking than the day you bought it, skip to the next section, you don't need to read this.

Leather Quality - Saddleback Leather bags are made of 4 - 5 ounce Full Grain leather and tanned with various oils to keep them from being destroyed early by dryness and moisture. There are four grades of leather.

Full Grain Leather is the best leather money can buy and the only leather good enough for Saddleback Leather products. It comes from the top layer of the hide which is the toughest part. From the middle layer of the leather to the top, the fibers are mostly woven together vertically making it very strong. The natural surface of full grain leather burnishes and beautifies with use. Some companies sort of spray paint their inferior leather to try to make it look like full grain leather, but it just ends up looking like someone spray painted some cheap leather. From what I've seen, maybe 2% of all bags are made of Full Grain, and those rarely sell under $400. This leather is expensive for me to buy and very difficult to work.

I haven't done anything to my bags to add character. The marks and scrapes and scars are all natural. Where the cow had been gored, scraped by barbed wire or cactus or mesquite thorns … bitten by a coyote … or branded, the color sets in deep and stands out a bit (you can see the full grain running through the hide in the form of veins too). Your bag may have a few small scars and imperfections, but those just lend a tremendous amount of character to it. Some bags have parts of the cow's brand here and there. Ride it hard; it'll look better.

Top Grain Leather is the second highest grade of leather. The leather is split from the top layer of blemished hide then sanded and refinished. This is how they get rid of scars and scrapes and light cow brands. Top grain leather does not easily burnish and beautify with use. It is strong and durable, but not good enough for Saddleback to use since a large part of the strongest fibers are now gone leaving mainly the horizontal (easily pulled apart) fibers of the leather. By the way, did you know that the leather shavings are used in cheap dog food?

Genuine Leather is the third grade of leather and is produced from the layers of hide that remain after the top is split off for the better grades. The surface is usually refinished (spray painted) to resemble a higher grade. It can be smooth or rough. Caution: This inferior quality of leather becomes evident with use.

Bonded Leather is leather's bottom. Leftover scraps are ground together with glue and resurfaced in a process similar to vinyl manufacture. Bonded leather is weak and degrades quickly with use. Most Bibles are covered with this. By the way, my soon to come Bible covers are cooler than Christmas.

Inner Lining - You'll find that most trendy pretty boy bags are lined with some sort of cute shiny fabric usually with an antique world map design to make you feel adventurous. This bag is lined with solid pieces of suede. Did you know that cowboys and ranch hands often use suede on the outside of their chaps so they get a double life out of the leather? The more suede gets rubbed and touched, the harder and more durable it becomes.

Thread - Heavy-duty high quality synthetic thread (double zero). Be careful not to buy a bag sewn with cheap cotton thread. It wears quickly and your bag will fall apart. This is one of the differences between a $200 and a $700 bag. Free helpful hint: Here's how to test thread or material. Light the end of it or its fuzz with a match. If it turns to ash, it's cotton. If it smells like hair, it's silk or wool. If it balls up, it's the good synthetic stuff that doesn't rot with humidity and sweat.

Heavy-Duty Rivets - It's almost like killing a fly with a shotgun, but my bags have heavy-duty reinforced riveted corners. The bottom corners are usually the first places for the thread to wear away after years and years of use. Even rocks wear away. So each corner has a well-placed rivet to make it an ever-stout and sturdy bag.

Stiff Upper Rigidity - Hidden between the leather and suede beneath the handle is a durable strip of metal to keep the bag from flexing and losing its form when you lift it by the handle.

Stitching - Because Saddleback Leather bags are each individually made by human hands, the stitching is sometimes a little bit crooked. Only those laser guided computerized machines across the Pacific Ocean make perfect lines.

How to Convince your Honey

So you want it, but… now comes the hard part; to convince your honey. Throw some of these phrases out and see what happens.

Her to Him

* I feel frisky every time I even think about this bag.
* I would just feel so sexy with this bag.
* I think this bag would really make me look thinner.
* I don't think I'd ever want to go shopping for another bag after having one like this.

Him to Her

* Even looking at this bag makes me want to just HOLD you.
* I don't know why, but just the thought of this bag makes me want to TALK with you for hours on end.
* Think of all of the extra TIME we'd spend TOGETHER on our long walks holding hands and showing off the bag.
* Maybe owning my dream bag would help me OPEN UP to you and SHARE the hopes and dreams I have for us.

Me to Both of You

If you don't buy this bag, then next year, when you're scouring the internet looking for your next garage sale bag, your mind will drift back to my words. You'll slowly shake your head and say, "Man, was that guy right or what". And then you'll press your lips together, squint and give a few small nods. I tell you what, buy it now or kick yourself later.

I've made this bag for you to break in. It'll take a few months until it really starts to look cool. You'll have to use it a lot. In fact, the more you use it, the better it looks (and it already looks great). It'll eventually soften up and form to the places on your body it touches regularly. The edges will round some and it'll start looking even more chic and classic than it already does.

Sales Tax

Texas buyers please note that those awful mean evil bureaucrats in your state charge you 8.125% sales tax when you buy one of these bags just because Saddleback Leather Co. is based in Texas. I really don't think it's fair. Actually, it's not all that bad since these bags have gone for up to $700 each at times. You're getting quite a deal even with tax.

The Shipping

We will not declare your bag as a gift to avoid customs if you live outside the U.S.. I'm a man of integrity and lying isn't consistent with my character. Plus, it isn't worth the fines and possible prison time for fraudulent claims with the customs. If you would like us to send it to an address in the U.S. and they send it on to you as a gift, that's entirely up to you. ; |

Our Guarantee

We at Saddleback Leather Co. are so confident of what you're about to buy, that our products are fully guaranteed against defects in materials and workmanship for 400 years. If you or one of your lucky decendents should have a problem, send it back and we'll repair or replace it for free (be sure to put this guarantee in your will). We'll even pay for normal ground shipping if you're returning it because of a defect.

Saddleback Leather products are made to last a lifetime or two, but they're not bear or bullet or semi truck proof. The guarantee covers normal wear and tear and does not cover misuse or abuse.

Older Bags

If you're reading this and bought one of the eight, second edition bags back in 2001 hanging off the safari rack of my old Land Cruiser and have had any sort of problem at all, contact me and I'll replace it or have it repaired for free. The second editions were really nice, but these are nicer. Also, that is my black lab, Blue, jumping into Lake Cuitzeo in Michoacán, Mexico. He's a great dog.

Now be honest, if you just read the whole description for the second time, you're a goner. Just send me your address now, so I can get your box ready.
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WildEMT · May 26, 2007

carrot said:

I couldn't let such a great description disappear into the nether...
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:thumbsup:
Good man, good man

Manzerick · May 26, 2007

i showed some peeps and they think i'm crazy... Still thinking about it LOL

ChipPanFire · May 27, 2007

They were right - you are crazy!

(I'm thinking about it too :idiot2: :-X)

Destroid Monster · May 27, 2007

I have made an enquiry on the bag yesterday. This is the reply I get from Dave:

" Hello James, I do not sell or ship to Asian countries. If you have an address to ship to in the states or Europe that would meet my criteria. Hope you understand. This is for product integrity not in any way prejudicial. Best, Dave "

I'm from Singapore anyway.

Manzerick · May 27, 2007

We could play the game of having it shipped to me and i'll ship to you...

It'll just cost you one bag please... :lolhammer: your choice of color

Destroid Monster said:

I have made an enquiry on the bag yesterday. This is the reply I get from Dave:

" Hello James, I do not sell or ship to Asian countries. If you have an address to ship to in the states or Europe that would meet my criteria. Hope you understand. This is for product integrity not in any way prejudicial. Best, Dave "

I'm from Singapore anyway.
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Destroid Monster · May 28, 2007

Manzerick said:

We could play the game of having it shipped to me and i'll ship to you...

It'll just cost you one bag please... :lolhammer: your choice of color
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Thanks!!! I'm making arrangement to have the bag send to a friend in the States right now. In the event it doesn't work out, you could be either Plan F or G :luck:

Manzerick · Nov 11, 2008

This thread finally inspired me to buy the 16" Carbon bag/breifcase. it should be here within two days and I can't wait!!! I still marvel at how well the "story" is written on the company webpage!!

I know this is an old thread but I'll ask here anyhow.... Has anyone attached a satchet to the end of the bag? If do, how does it work well? My main concern is that it will flop around being only attached ot the top.

DSC · Nov 11, 2008

Manzerick said:

Has anyone attached a satchet to the end of the bag? If do, how does it work well? My main concern is that it will flop around being only attached ot the top.
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Do you mean a "satchel"? If so, yes...I have one on the side of mine and it's fine. The only time I can imagine that it would flop around is if you were running or something. It's a handy place to put things without having to open up the bag, especially if you have everything buckled up...

Manzerick · Nov 11, 2008

Excellent! TY!

I can't wait for this thing to show up! I had just about had enough broken straps on mySwis Army Backpack!!

themadplumbarian · Nov 12, 2008

Manzerick said:

Excellent! TY!

I can't wait for this thing to show up! I had just about had enough broken straps on mySwis Army Backpack!!
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I think i speak for everyone when i say we want pic's, so we can all be jealous,,, JR

Manzerick · Nov 13, 2008

Without a doubt there will be pics! On the company website there is a photo contest to win a $500.00 credit!!

You can only imagine the idea's I have... I just hope not to get arrested !!! LOL

Manzerick · Nov 18, 2008

Per the tracking info it shows up tomorrow!!!! WOOT WOOT WOOT!!!

themadplumbarian · Nov 18, 2008

Manzerick said:

Per the tracking info it shows up tomorrow!!!! WOOT WOOT WOOT!!!
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i cant wait :drool: i found another place that sells them, but they don't give a very good pic, but there less then half the cost,,, http://www.grafea.com/acatalog/GRAFEA_Postwar_leather_briefcase.html I'm going to email them to see if they can send a catalog, or get some better pics,,, JR

DSC · Nov 18, 2008

themadplumbarian said:

i cant wait :drool: i found another place that sells them, but they don't give a very good pic, but there less then half the cost,,, http://www.grafea.com/acatalog/GRAFEA_Postwar_leather_briefcase.html I'm going to email them to see if they can send a catalog, or get some better pics,,, JR
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That may be another place that sells "leather briefcases", but they don't sell the Saddleback Leather ones as referenced in the original post.

Manzerick · Nov 20, 2008

Ok folks… there will be a delay for Pic’s but I switched my from my Swiss army Backpack to the 16” Carbon briefcase yesterday. Here are my opinions so far (always subject to change lol):

• This thing is a tank! I work in an office and folks have already said I look like a Doctor… also that I now look “professional” and such. Strange as all I did was change the way I carry my gear but heck.. I agree.. It’s nice looking for sure!
• The leather is really amazing! Def. the top of the hide!! I only question if all the stitching is “hand” stitching but does it really matter? They are all in a good line and groupings. I can clearly see where it is in fact hand stitched. With that said.. I can clearly see where it wasn’t. (unless they are just that good.. doesn’t really matter any to me.. it is top quality either way!)
• The bag seems to stand on its own better than other messangers I’ve had. This may be the pre-break-in phase… more to come it this stays this good!
• The hidden- super secret pocket is just a flap which you can clearly see. You have to be Helen Keller to miss it!! LOL I hope it stays down with use but if not no biggie for me.. I don’t really have anything to hide..but would have liked to feel like James Bond for a few moments in time! 
• I wish it had more inside pockets and also pockets like the Saddleback Backpack has on the outside. I’ll be getting the satchel to attach to the side to rectify that but stock it would be nice!
• I can see why the Chicago bolt idea was a good mod. Although my straps stay put.. I would like them more secure. Not really needed but I’m a bag diva sometimes.

Overall I’m glad it is well worth it in quality alone. If you are a “Kenneth Cole” type of guy.. This is not for you. If you eat nails for breakfast, work in a cube….. And then plow the fields at night, this is your bag! Rugged… office worthy.. Practical.. Can I say it any better? 

Pic’s will follow when my camera works again.. The shutter is jammed and I will work on it tonight. Please let me know if there are specifics you would like to see in pic’s.. I’ll do my best to make it happen.

heathah · Nov 20, 2008

I'm currently making my own leather briefcase/messenger bag/gear-carry-all bag that closely resembles the Saddleback style of bags. It's been a pain to do but the result will be well worth it in the end. I would love to see the following pics of your bag if you could provide them. If not, no worries:

Detailed interior view. How many pockets does your bag have internally and how are they organized? I've already got my interior organization laid out but I'm curious how yours is.

Hidden flap view. I can see from your description that you didn't care much for this (and neither do I), however, I'd like to see exactly how well it "hides" something. I'm not putting something like this on my homemade bag as I have no use for it.

Bottom view. I'd like to know how this sits on the ground. Do the joints for the leather keep the bottom of the bag off the ground (i.e. sewn point around edges joining front and back or interior divider to the side and bottom pieces) or do the attachment rings help keep the leather from touching the ground or getting scraped?

Detailed shoulder strap view. How comfortable is your shoulder strap? Does it stay in place and help keep the bag on your shoulder or does it slip at all?

Sorry to ask so many questions. I think Saddleback makes awesome bags and from what I've seen they look great for business or outdoors. I don't think I ever could justify purchasing one of their bags (at least not to the wife) so that is why I'm making my own.

Thanks a lot for any pictures you can provide!

Heath

Manzerick · Nov 21, 2008

No problem at all!! Once my camera starts acting right again I can help you out.

My main issue is having enough pockets right now. Everything fits but i'm looking for a small nylon bail out bag of sorts to fit in the front compartment to help organize. If I can't find what i'm looking for I may (gulp) venture into making one myself out of leather. If I do that, would you be able to please give me hints on leather crafitng? I've read a lot online but could use real world advice.

Also note - I led the Saddleback folks to this post and they were delighted!! They seem like they really care about the job and it is refreshing to see in this day ouf outsourcing and cuts!!

themadplumbarian · Nov 21, 2008

Manzerick said:

No problem at all!! Once my camera starts acting right again I can help you out.

My main issue is having enough pockets right now. Everything fits but i'm looking for a small nylon bail out bag of sorts to fit in the front compartment to help organize. If I can't find what i'm looking for I may (gulp) venture into making one myself out of leather. If I do that, would you be able to please give me hints on leather crafitng? I've read a lot online but could use real world advice.

Also note - I led the Saddleback folks to this post and they were delighted!! They seem like they really care about the job and it is refreshing to see in this day ouf outsourcing and cuts!!

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Manzerick,

If you have some questions on leather craft, i would be glad to help, as healthah said i might start making my own, and if you could once your camera gets its chips right post some good pics, so we can get an idea, into its construction to make our own,,, ive done leather craft, and still due but not as high quality as saddleback,,, JR

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