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Bat or baton home defense

Discussion in 'Personal Security Devices & Self-Defense' started by bubbaj, Aug 11, 2013.

  1. maverickmonk

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    I did Tae Kwon Do for about 5 years total in middleschool/highschool. Only seriously for about 3 years of it though. Part of it was a weekly weapons class. Not all of it was useful stuff, but our instructor mixed in a lot of Muay Thai and Hapkido into the regular class for unarmed defense, and the one instructor was really into self defense from/with weapons. That was about 4 years ago though and a lot is gone, unfortunately. I especially miss the reflexes. I hope my graduate school has a decent martial arts club to participate in (lessons aren't cheap, lol)

    What I like is that escrima stick moves can be improvised with prettymuch anything long and heavy. chair leg, pool stick, 2x4, muffler, etc. etc.

    No matter the discipline, this is my favorite drill ever. Granted when we did it we weren't as cool so the poor soul in the middle could at least see.
     
  2. clemency

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    I did have fun, but I'll tell ya, out of all the forms I've studied through the years Krav always left me the most bruised and battered lol.
     
  3. bubbaj

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    Yes, they are expensive. Sounds cool though. I may get a set and watch some YouTube for basic movements. 15 bucks is not much. Even I can afford that. What length do you have? 24 inch length and 1 inch diameter good? Or is 3/4 better?
     
  4. bubbaj

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    Lol I bet. But I suppose the more battered you get, the faster you will want to learn.
     
  5. maverickmonk

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    3/4 are a little thin, even for me and I have small hands. The 3/4 ones also tend to be regular wood instead of Rattan. Regular wood grain is prone to snapping in half on contact, but rattan doesn't ever "break", it just frays. I have an old one held together by tape that's nearly fluid in the center because each and every fiber separated, but it's still in one piece.

    As for length, it's up to you. Mine are 26" or 28", 24 felt a little short for me, but I am a hair over 6', the length is really personal choice. I think 26" was my most preferred.
     
  6. clemency

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    That's my favorite thing about Escrima/Kali, the improvisation. ANYTHING can be turned into a weapon which is why I always find it funny going through a TSA screening. I always think, "If they only knew." Pens, lamps, books, magazines, towels, shoot, even the shirt off your back, anything (which kind of brings us back to this thread's original topic). I wish there were a better Kali class near me, but alas there isn't. Lately I've been finding the Kali and Muay Thai classes are filled with wannabe mma types. Not that there's anything wrong with these folks cause there's not. But for the most part, I get the impression that it's more about posturing and brawn than wanting to actually learn something.
     
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    +1 for Krav. Once you get used to being hit, the fun doesn't stop.
     
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    Coffee mugs, big skillet, towels, knives, lamps, hardcover books, liftable/swingable furnishings... Whatever will put a big dent in someone's head or hole in their neck/belly
     
  9. maverickmonk

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    It's ok, Tae Kwon Do and Hapkido classes are filled with awkwardly shaped nerds...or was that just me.... ;)

    Shirt/belt/jacket is awesome against knives. Honestly there is nothing better if you know even basic joint locks (and basic is about all I'm good for)

    As for practicing at home, it helps if you have a heavy bag. That's the only way I've managed to keep some semblance of form with my strikes. You need a willing volunteer for jointlocks though, and as such I don't remember much
     
  10. Slipjoint

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    We called that "Bull in the Pen" back in my Karate days. It was pretty fun.
     
  11. speedy

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    Bumping this thread for reasons of my own giving serious thought to having a baseball bat in the house. Just not sure if it really matters which kind. Playing is one thing, but for home defense a bat is a bat IMHO. Granted for nostalgic reasons I might consider a Louisville slugger assuming it's within the price range for no way I am spending a lot on this idea of mine.
     
  12. Telstar

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    a baton would probably be the last weapon I would choose to fight a violent criminal with
     
  13. IThinkTooMuch

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    Baton. I can get a 18"-20" chunk of ash or hickory around in narrow hallway or interior doorway a lot faster than you can get an end weighted 30" Louisville Slugger around in the same narrow hallway or doorway.
     
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    I have a 4 C cell Maglite that sits next to my bed. I think a bat might be too unwieldy in tighter spaces, but it's worked for a lot of people for a lot of years. Expandable batons, in my experience (10 years LE and 25 on the private side) are good, but require a minimum of training to use properly. I've carried one for a lot of years and have a lot of training, but I wouldn't want it as my only option.
     
  15. ripjack13

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    I have a custom made Black Locust burl war club by my bed.

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  16. Holliday

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    Nice piece! I've never seen anything like that. When I first scrolled down, I thought it was some sort of weaponized gooseneck gourd :p

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  18. ripjack13

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    I bought it from a guy in Croatia who makes em...on another forum.
     
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