There is a space to play. Sheet of paper can be put between panel and pack, clips... ee, clipped, paper removed.
It will be interesting to hear @HELM 's take is on this... it sure looks promising. Also thinking about the possibilty of a third mounting option - Add (two) vertical 1" web loops to the top, back of the panel, and use slick clips/grimlocs that attach to the two outside d-rings. Also blocking the backside hook velcro with loop velcro sections to allow the entire panel to be floating, attached only at the top. This would allow the panel to be rotated out of the pack exposing the loop back wall for mounting addition deep stored pouches.... maybe a hanging matroskya pouch. Mostly slim profile ones of course. Just a thought....
Thanks for the feedback guys. Couple of things: 1. One of my goals was to keep the new pack within a specific weight range and any additional walls of loops etc just adds to weight. And understandably a majority of current Evade owners do not have a need for a back wall of loops nor PALS so I’ve decided that this will have to be an option. 2. For such a panel you can either ‘stick it’ to the back wall or hang it like the TAD panel. Question is the use. It gives you the option o MOLLE or velcro but I have another group of end users who will use this as a weapons platform so they need to mount an SBR up to 7.5 lbs with accessories on it. 3. Anything less that 12 lbs of weight on that panel does not require it to be both hook & loop and also clips. I personally think its overkill. To me it’s more a question of a cleaner look for those who have no need for those strips of loops if they don’t use it BUT the presence of those loop strips will allow me to look at other accessory options, for instance a second laptop pouch (some here apparently carry 2 laptops!). Another option is to use hook & loop and use only 4 suspender clips like the one below. 4. Yes, those webbing loops will be left inside because it’s a secondary location for your elastic cord. I’m already currently adapting that in the U/Pathfinder. Helm
@HELM can we expect the velcro loop back wall will be standard or optional in the admin area? Also, it's been a while since any discussion concerning the current status of the beaver tail. Could you discuss any further developments? Thanks for the updates!
Glad to see weight is a consideration. I just want the back panel velcro to mount a small tool pouch in the bottom and an accessory pouch at the top.
@HELM thanks for the pics! Is the gusset section on the BT made with all nylon or stretch material? In the earlier (desert tan) Evade 2.0 prototype pics back in March... the admin pocket had those small d-rings located just above the admin panel. Is that still happening?
@HELM Looking over the recent updates... Project Evade has come a long way! Some of you may remember the Evade original prototype 11/2014 https://www.edcforums.com/threads/new-crowdsourced-product-developments-as-we-go-along.122106/page-9#post-2088156
Looking good Helm. Thank you for the update. Is the BT open at the bottom? It looks like it is. I was hoping it would be closed so a cord could be dumped in while running through airport.
Nylon. I took the liberty of looking at what Mystery Ranch and OV did with theirs and having thin fiberglass rods thro the channels. And those 2 small d-rings are there.
There are 4 anchor points, 2 at the bottom and 2 at the lower sides. A cord? I had the BT in mind for larger objects. It will not dump a small coil of cord in there, there is no guarantees it would stay.
Roger that! Everything looks great! Sleestac, could spare cords be stashed in the admin, top, side, or ccw pockets?
@sleestac, better shot of the 4 attachment points. And here’s a new shot of the revised mounting for the PALS panel.
After several years of EDC I finally used it as a 72 hour bag. It was packed tighter than it should have been in the sleeping bag was carried separately but I got everything needed for 72 hours Including an extremely difficult land nav course and some shooting with 200 rounds of 40 Cal. FYI I definitely would not recommend this bag has a 72 hour pack but somehow I did manage. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
@HELM I think you've struck a good balance between weight and utility with velcro in the Main Section. Also keeping the PALS panel as a separate option is also appreciated.
Finally back stateside. It was a long trip trying to finalize everything. It ain’t easy being a perfectionist cos I end up wanting to change and revise things all the time Anyway I’m gonna post a separate thread shortly for pre-orders on the new gen Evade. It will be a limited release in selected colors. Hang tight and I will have this posted over the weekend. Thanks guys.
