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Wound stasis injection foam.

Discussion in 'First Aid Station' started by Warfusion, Jan 1, 2013.

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    I've seen in two movies a foam you can inject into your wound to prevent internal bleeding. It seemed amazing and a great thing to have in a fak for any outdoor activities or even everyday depending on your work. What you do is inject the foam into the wound and it expands and helps with bleeding give you a 72% chance of survival compared to an 8% from what I read. I can post some links later it's being worked on by one of the darpa contracts. Love to hear some opinions on it.

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    You don't inject it into "your" wound, it's 2 liquids that are injected into the patients abdominal cavity. It's still only a trial, but apparently looking good. I have only seen presentations so all very one sided but I don't think it will find it's way into civvie first aid kits any time soon as they have problems with analog training.
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    From some of the articles i read it they said injected into the wound however I have read also what you said into the abdominal cavity on others. On the Darpa website they say exactly what you said. Thanks for the correction. :) http://www.darpa.mil/NewsEvents/Releases/2012/12/10.aspx I think while writing I mixed up what I wanted and what actually was. But I think there is another foam used in wounds be worked on as well not sure what its called going to have to look it up.
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    This is pretty cool stuff.

    sydder Loaded Pockets

    Seems like it would only really be of use to combat medics.

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    Yeah, just don't pour rubber cement down stab wound. Not good.
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    Zargon Loaded Pockets

    I know you would already be in pain, but wouldn't the foam expanding rapidly ( if its like the video) inside of you hurt like a b****

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    Also properly applying a tourniquet or clamping a vessel. It's for survival.
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    Warfusion Loaded Pockets

    I'm thinking it would be a good idea on a smaller scale for stabbings, or accidental injuries. If filling a the body cavity doesn't that make it a little more work on the people trying to help you. I think this idea is better for smaller wounds maybe as an artificial scab.

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    Yah like a liquid bandaid that you would spray in to the cut ( I know there is a liquid bandied keep on reading) and then would become foam SLOWLY and seal a deep cut
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    amacman Loaded Pockets

    The big problem is that it requires surgery to remove, and from the looks of it, they'll be opening you WAY up to explore and find it all. So, what might have been and injury that was treated locally, now becomes general exploratory surgery.

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    I kno you would probably already be saying this if you needed this treatment but...


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    EDCRVa Loaded Pockets

    If you could carve out a set of abs that may work for me
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    Thats why I see it as if they come up with a different type of foam it would be better for filling smaller injuries. Unless of course they have a solution that dissolves the foam without causing any harm to the person.

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    Don't think it'll be useful on open wounds, but might be priceless when treating an internal bleeding.
    Sometimes (I'm thinking car and bike crashes) you find a patient on obvious shock with no external signs pointing where does that come from. The most accepted protocol is treating it as internal bleeding and fly low (IV fluids and fast evac for surgery).

    Pain would be out of the equation if the patient is done enough to need that...

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    I can't see practical use by non professionally trained medical personel . If you don't know what you are doing it could likely do more harm than good
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