Easy to see why ... sutures are an aid to healing, they are a long long way from "Level one" first aid and have very little to do with stopping "A lot of bleeding going on" back country or not. Hydrogen peroxide and, for his use, alcohol wipes are also way off beam.
Totally agree on the suture point, would never include them myself. Disagree on the alcohol wipes though, I use them all the time, not just for first aid treatment.
They are useful for hand cleaning and maybe instruments, but that video seemed to indicate he had them in place of Povi. Hence my comment. http://rediguy.hubpages.com/hub/Guide-to-First-Aid-Swabs-Towelettes-Wipes
I got a FAK from Neverlost, fit perfect in a cargopocket. http://www.neverlostgear.com/first-aid-pocket
I do have one small kit that I just checked will squeeze in a Cargo pocket. To put it into context I always have a CPR valve, gloves, a couple of wipes, plasters and OTC meds spread between my wallet and my key chain. I will occasionally take something like this to throw in a bag, if I am carrying one, to supplement that, I have a few to chose from and this is the smallest. Contents wise it has a 4" Izzy, CAT, Quikclot Zfold, Gloves, CPR barrier (Not much good), triangular bandage, Plasters, Steristrips, Crepe Bandage, Wipes, Rehydration powder, NP airway, a few 2x2 and 4x4s, blister plasters, a Cannula, tick removers, micropore & Duck tape.
I've been reading this post and don't think I really have anything new or life changing to contribute, seems like everyone is pretty much on the same page. I will throw my 2 cents in though. One thing I agree with the most is to build your FAK for what you think you may encounter and base that on your level of training. A lot of states have "Good Samaritan" laws that protect you from civil liability if you act reasonably when trying to help another person. Be cautious though, when it comes to overstepping levels of training. Remember that your actions could be judged later using the "reasonable man" standard. This is not to say don't help for fear of being sued or whatever, just use good judgment and be able to explain why you did what you did. Use forethought when making your decision also. Remember that for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction. What you do to treat yourself or someone else is going to have a reaction be it positive or negative. Be aware of that and try to do the most good for your patient.
Oh, one more thing. I always carry CPR barrier masks. You can order them online. They're a little bit pricey but worth their weight in gold if you need one. These are the ones I use... http://www.laerdal.com/us/doc/115/Laerdal-Face-Shield Keep in mind they come in multipacks and are disposable.
They now teach just chest compresion and don't worry about breaths. I have to take cpr yearly for work Don't know why, there are 500-700 trained medical personel in the building at any given time from R.N's to world class trauna and cardiac doctors I find a F.A.K. that I like the pouch dump what I don't like and add what I need/want my edc bag kit is built on an A.M.K. 0.5 kit I don't carry a pocket kit at work because there is a fully stocked med room around the next corner and the afore mentioned nurses and doctors . I carry a maxpedition micro with a few bandaids and iodine wipes moleskin etc. a bigger kit in my edc bag , a little more in my car/get home bag and have enough at home to do anything I have knowledge/training to do myself Roy
"They" may inded teach but most don't and very few if any national guidleines call for that for anyone trained in CPR. Go with what you have been taught. Not to derail this thread it's all dealt with in this one http://www.edcforums.com/threads/cpr-discussion.97792/
The keys in the link you posted lay person and single healthcare personal If you aren't trained and certified emt, paramedic,nurse surgery tech, combat medic, doctor, etc. they teach you to do compressions to the beat of stayin alive.if you are one of the above people and by yourself you do just compressions. young children and infant have different guidelines. too many people think just because I read it on the internet I can do it or use this product and end up doing more harm than good Where I work pioneers a lot of these procedures . They develop a lot of stuff where I work. Like the standard for emergency cardiac care, first responce stroke treatment, and stuff like oral polio vacine and benadryl were created here . I know what the medical team at work can do. They preform miricles daily they are some of the best in the world . when they tell me this is the best couse of action I trust their judgement. Roy
Or buy a single pack at a premium.. http://www.rescue-essentials.com/Laerdal_CPR_Face_Shield_p/50-0160.htm
Reminds me of "dehydrated water" (I do realize that you are referring to electrolyte powder.) Sent from a remote location using smoke signals.
"Compression Only CPR" is basically an ad campaign. It is better than nothing and a passerby can do it without a barrier. 30:2 is what they are teaching as of last month. (This was discussed during the class.) I like the little "Backpack" CPR kits, barrier and gloves, easily found in your bag, hanging from the key hanger. Sent from a remote location using smoke signals.
On YouTube if you look up The Urban Prepper, he has a video for ones he calls "Mini Medi's" which consist of a small zip lock baag filled with band-aids, the single use pouches of ointments and some pills for whtever you think you would use. I found it useful as a starting point and have assembled a number of them which I have in most of my coat pockets. Good luck.
You have quoted that thread once all ready . I have taken cpr classes at least a dozen times When I worked in the auto industry I was certified confined space rescue, which requires first aid and cpr annually and the hospital I work in requires hands on cpr class every other year and a computer corse refresher in between . Plus some one may grab you at any time throw down a training dummy and require an improptu test . Any confrence to set these types of guide lines doctors were I work are involved .
I re quoted it because you appeared to have misunderstood what was being said there so I added a summary there because I thought that was a good way to not hijack this thread. As for your training, as well as my own continuous devolopment training I supervise and still occasionally teach CPR and other classes more than a dozen times a year, yes there are hospitals and emergency services that are doing control tests on CCR all over the world. But the American Heart Asscociation, in Europe and all of the national and international bodies the world over that set the guidelines and the standards for certification still insist on 30 compressions and 2 breaths. I am not trying to tell you to do anything different, or that your Dcotors are anything less than wonderful, in fact I clearly said "Go with what you have been taught." What I was saying was that when you said "They teach" you were talking about a small number and none are nationally recognised so, for the vast majority of people who are trained in CPR, it's a good idea to have a barrier in your kit, which is what this thread is about.
^^^What Vinny said. The other thread deals with this in detail. But the main national bodies AHA, BRC, ARC, ILCOR ERC etc etc all still advocate 30:2
As I have said I have been trained both ways. If you are getting to the five minute mark with no help I would more than likely go to the 30-2 if for no other reason than the fact doing cpr right is physically demanding you could maintain 30-2 longer and you are getting to the end of the 5-7 minute of useable O2 in the bloodstream . I do have a couple of the barriers like in the link and a couple of these too http://www.laerdal.com/us/item/82001933 You adapt to the situation. Any cpr of any duration would be a non work setting. At work a code blue call with my location from my radio would bring a herd of people far more qualified than me running with A.E.D. at the least and a full blown crash cart would be there soon. In any situation that you need to medically assist you draw from all your training use what fits the needs right now, out in the boondocks with help 30 minutes or more away 30 coppressions 2 breaths from the start After You call for help, at work radio for help and do compressions till the pro's get there in 90 seconds Or A.E.D.'s are close in a lot of places hook it up and follow it's derections Roy
this is a very good video, I've had it saved on my channel for a long time and actually used a lot of this video to build my IFAK for my EDC bag.