Which handle color would you like for the new EDCF Spyderco?

[heathah]

Well, we have run several polls to determine the EDCF Spyderco composition and so far, here is what we've determined:

EDCF Spyderco 2009-2010

Delica, Stonewashed S30V Blade, G-10 Handle, and Ti Wire Clip

What we have yet to determine is the color of the handle. Orange was predominantly the favorite in the last poll, however, a GiTD option was presented after the last poll began so we now have to decide between these two options.

Here are two mock-ups I constructed. They don't look great but will hopefully show everyone what these might look like. Please note, the actual knife will not look exactly like this, I hope. :)

Delica, Stonewashed S30V Blade, GiTD G-10 Handle, and Ti Wire Clip
http://lh5.ggpht.com/_WJItaNM3H_c/SxgMpK3Ml-I/AAAAAAAAK6o/vcyBR3wKM2k/delica_gitd%20copy.jpg

Delica, Stonewashed S30V Blade, Orange G-10 Handle, and Ti Wire Clip
width=640 height=401]http://lh3.ggpht.com/_WJItaNM3H_c/SxgMpT0lbLI/AAAAAAAAK6s/QjC5Q69FJoY/delica_orange%20copy.jpg

Thanks!

Heath

[m16a]

I voted GiTD. Looks cooler in the pic, and would be epic cool in real life I'd think.

[3voices]

GITD :whee:

[tabler1010]

I like the color of the GITD but i wish it didn't GITD! >:(

[fallow]

I haven't been here in ages, but it's good to see the EDCF spyderco is still in the pipeline.

Go for the GiTD. Nice. Put me down for one.

[tradja]

Heath, very cool mockups!  Thanks for keeping this moving along.  Although I've had tons to say about this project :rolleyes:, I will actually refrain from voting on this poll because either color option would be equally awesome.  Whatever we decide, I'm in.

Again, nice job on the pics.

[JonSidneyB]

Don't forget to vote.

[Cosmo7809]

I have just one question....


Does spyderco have the GITD G10 on hand?



I know they have orange because many of their production knives use orange g10.

[tinyblob]

i REALLY want an orange knife, so i voted orange!
do we have a timescale or price? i'm well out of the loop.

[jeeves3443]

I just want some clarification. Will there be anything to designate this as the eDCF 09-10 knife, such as the/an EDCF logo?
If yes, can someone direct me to a sample?

[jsmitty1967]

I vote for the GID. As I mentioned in the other thread I have a PSK with GID scales and it is very nice. Heath's color is really close so IMO it is an interesting color in and of itself. The Glow is nice and bright and last about an hour and a half. At its peak it is bright enoug to be useful with night adapted eyes. I am really happy with it and would love to get an EDC folder with the same scale. I posted a couple pics in the PSK thread if anyone is interested.

[Itamimasu]

I like both, and voted GITD (Here), but in the original poll I voted for Grey, which was in an (almost) neck and neck race with Orange.
So did Grey get bumped for GITD altogether? :shrug:

Don't mind either way, just wondering.

[adimag]

What would the estimated cost be?

[JonSidneyB]

What would the estimated cost be?


After a winner is decided, then it will be to show the winning knife to Spyderco. They will be able to tell us the price at various quantities. If 300 are made they will cost more than if 1000 are made.

Valolammas has a full GID handle on it's way to him. After he has a chance to evaluate it and report his findings we can push to try and get the vote count up.

[Sgt. LED]

Well between GITD and Orange there is no loser option.

I vote GITD. There are a few Spyderco's in orange but we would be the very first to have GITD.
This forum has the chance to make a very tiny bit of history. We should take that chance.
:cool:

[JonSidneyB]

Stuff takes forever to get to Finland. I am hoping that Valolammas's full handled GID Barikie gets to him soon so he can report on the handle. I didn't get a chance to examine those very well.

[Sgt. LED]

My PSK is back at the shop but from what I saw of the glow G10 during the week I had it made me happy enough.

It's just like any other G10, that happens to glow in the dark. Years from now when the glow properties lessen or stop totally it'll still be a neat shade of G10 and just as durable. What's the wait for?

It is not as neon green as the simulated pic in the OP either, it's more subtle and translucent.

[Valolammas]

My PSKs are still not here, but I'll vote for GID anyway. Anything is better in GID. ;D

(You can see jsmitty's pics of his GID PSK here (http://edcforums.com/index.php?topic=24267.msg402509#msg402509).)

[carrot]

I honestly don't care which handle color, both are really cool. But, I'd like to note that orange will be cheaper as Spyderco has already purchased a lot of G10, and the S30V option for a Delica will be expensive, because Spyderco will have to send the steel over to Japan as the Delica is a made-in-Japan knife.

IMHO this knife has a lot better chance of being made if we picked a Golden model, like the Urban, or any older models that they have made in Golden, that is, if we want S30V. If we pick a different steel so that we can have the Delica, I would like to suggest ZDP-189 as it is a simply superb steel and has unbelievable edge retention.

Also, the fact that the Wire Clip is not currently used on the Delica will require re-tooling, another expense.

[JonSidneyB]

I am going to bug Eric

[JonSidneyB]

Eric has E-mailed me back.

I am going to tell him what we want to do. I think he will flip when he hears GID G-10

[JonSidneyB]

I honestly don't care which handle color, both are really cool. But, I'd like to note that orange will be cheaper as Spyderco has already purchased a lot of G10, and the S30V option for a Delica will be expensive, because Spyderco will have to send the steel over to Japan as the Delica is a made-in-Japan knife.

IMHO this knife has a lot better chance of being made if we picked a Golden model, like the Urban, or any older models that they have made in Golden, that is, if we want S30V. If we pick a different steel so that we can have the Delica, I would like to suggest ZDP-189 as it is a simply superb steel and has unbelievable edge retention.

Also, the fact that the Wire Clip is not currently used on the Delica will require re-tooling, another expense.


Good points.

I am going to see what Eric has to say and we will take it from there.

[JonSidneyB]

The plan is after I talk again to Spyderco and I learn how many is needed to do this and the cost we will start pushing to get up to the target number and hopefully well beyond.

To make more people aware we will do something I normally do not like to do. We will send out a mass message to all the members. Hopefully hitting 16k people with a message will do the job.

The request list when it gets high enough to do this....hopefully we can get requests way beyond the minimum needed it will change into a pre-order but not until we get an estimate on how long it will take for them to be produced.

[greyhound352]

I vote GITD. There are a few Spyderco's in orange but we would be the very first to have GITD.
This forum has the chance to make a very tiny bit of history. We should take that chance.
:cool:


:iagree: Lets make history then, I vote GITD

[PBJS II]

I want a black G10 Tenacious. I'll SAY it's an EDCF special edition!

That said I vote orange.

[tradja]

I honestly don't care which handle color, both are really cool. But, I'd like to note that orange will be cheaper as Spyderco has already purchased a lot of G10, and the S30V option for a Delica will be expensive, because Spyderco will have to send the steel over to Japan as the Delica is a made-in-Japan knife.

IMHO this knife has a lot better chance of being made if we picked a Golden model, like the Urban, or any older models that they have made in Golden, that is, if we want S30V. If we pick a different steel so that we can have the Delica, I would like to suggest ZDP-189 as it is a simply superb steel and has unbelievable edge retention.

Also, the fact that the Wire Clip is not currently used on the Delica will require re-tooling, another expense.

Good points. Ideally the forum knife would have been all Golden features or all Seki features instead of a mix of Golden and Seki features (i.e. S30V Delica) I'm not picky about the steel - any of the premium steels would sell, especially with exotic scales like GID. Or orange, for that matter.



The plan is after I talk again to Spyderco and I learn how many is needed to do this and the cost we will start pushing to get up to the target number and hopefully well beyond.

To make more people aware we will do something I normally do not like to do. We will send out a mass message to all the members. Hopefully hitting 16k people with a message will do the job.

The request list when it gets high enough to do this....hopefully we can get requests way beyond the minimum needed it will change into a pre-order but not until we get an estimate on how long it will take for them to be produced.

O0
Sounds great Jon. It's exciting that you are starting to talk to Spyderco about making this happen! Keep us posted.

[mlandolt8]

Anyone have an estimated cost on this knife? Best guess maybe? 100? 125? 150? 200? I love what the forum blade has become BUT I also worry that it may price itself out of many peoples budgets. Not trying to be negative about it but I will say, I have observed the Tenancious is sold out much more often than the Military. (Maybe an apples and oranges comparison but you get the point)

[Cuso]

Does anyone has a picture of that GITD G-10? Does it look like this?

GITD G-10 Knife (http://www.glowforum.com/showthread.php?p=467)

[Cosmo7809]

Hope everyone had a good holiday bump :party:

[thistle5]

I had a great holiday & I'm really hoping for an EDCF Spyderco for 2010! :roof:

[JonSidneyB]

Spyderco has not got back in touch with me yet. Still waiting.

[JonSidneyB]

I did get a reply that they were interested in doing this. Not much more from them yet.

[Cosmo7809]

Thanks for the update Jon, be well!

[grayman]

If there is a list for one of these please put me on it.

[JonSidneyB]

I heard from Spyderco today.

They said if it was going to be a Delica it could not be SV03 since the Delica is made in Japan.

If we wanted to go with an American Blade he mentioned these
Military
Para Military
Manix2
UK
Chinook

We can still do a Delica but it would have to be with a Japanese steel.

[crossroads]

I don't mind if it's not S30V. In fact, I'd prefer for it to be VG-10. Just my opinion. I think we should stick with the Delica, to keep costs low.

[frankfurter]

I still vote H-1.  But I guess we'll have to actually have another vote.  Thanks Jon for getting this ball rolling.  I check the EDCF Branded Gear topic every day to see if any news is to be had about the Spyderco.

[JP]

You can still count me in for one whichever way it goes.

JP

[tradja]

We can still do a Delica but it would have to be with a Japanese steel.

The model is more critical to EDCability than the steel. As much as I love my Millie, I understand that we are trying to make an EDCF forum knife here.

H1 would be a great choice for a Delica. A FFG H1 Delica with G10 would be immensely popular beyond this forum.
If we wanted to stick with an American model, then a UKPK would be fun. But a S30V UKPK, even with exotic scales, would be less unique.

[smokelaw1]

I am still so excited about this knife. I have a ton of knives (like a lot of us do) from $1 sepcials to thousand dollar plus customs. Total amount of hours carried and "stuff" cut....probably goes to my trusty old delica. She's getting a little long in the tooth, and might need to be retired soon...I'd like nothing more than an EDCF Delica (in orange, if I get my way...but I'm in either way) to replace her.

[greyhound352]

I would like to get one in 2010!!!

[ryball]

How do I vote for both? :help:

[carrot]

I want ZDP-189, flat ground, thank you very much. It is a good steel, and holds an edge practically forever! I can get my ZDP Caly3 sharper than pretty much any other knife I own.

[houdini28]

My PSKs are still not here, but I'll vote for GID anyway. Anything is better in GID. ;D

(You can see jsmitty's pics of his GID PSK here (http://edcforums.com/index.php?topic=24267.msg402509#msg402509).)


Not everything is better in GITD. For instance camouflage :boo: I voted for GITD. I would be fine with either color handle. I would also be alright with any type of steel as well. I do like the choice of the Delica for the EDCF knife. In general, I would be willing to purchase an EDCF knife if it was made by Spyderco.

[carrot]

I'll take GITD camouflage then!

[smokelaw1]

I want ZDP-189, flat ground, thank you very much. It is a good steel, and holds an edge practically forever! I can get my ZDP Caly3 sharper than pretty much any other knife I own.


Yeah, if we can get ZDP189, I vote for that, too!!! I can only imagine the costs!!! My William Henry with ZDP 189 is my preferred dressy small knife. It is one of the very very few knives I own that I use, but use "gingerly." Most of them, if I own it...I USE it.

[JonSidneyB]

Spyderco wanted to know how the GID material machines.

I have a sheet of the stuff on the way to me and I am going to forward it to Spyderco for evaluation. I am sure it will pass just fine since BRKT did a nice job with it.

If Spyderco is able to machine it just fine it looks like we will be good to go.

Here is the next thing to address and I don't have the answers. If we stay with the Delica the material will be sent to Japan and that will add a little cost but I don't know how much. I am sure it cannot be too much.

If we go with an American knife we save the shipping of the GID material to Japan and back.

Do we stay with Delica that is fine, we just need to hammer out which Japanese steel.

If we go American here are Erics suggestions.

Military
Para Military
Manix2
UK
Chinook

[thistle5]

I would LOVE an EDCF 2010 Spyderco-definitely GITD & I'd take any of the models proposed, although UKPK would be last & the Chinook seems kind of specialized, also. I'm going to go out here & say my favorite Spyderco, that would be an awesome EDCF model, is the Meerkat. Yes, it's smaller, w/ a tricky lock, but it grows on you & is the perfect EDC knife. I have an original, a new one on the way, & I just think it's a really cool knife...

[m1ster s]

American all the way. UKPK would fits the forums well, I think.

[grayman]

I like the idea of American made. There are a lot of people without work and struggling here at home. I realize this isn't going to heal our economy, but every little bit helps.

Also, in regard to the knife itself, I personally prefer a locking blade.

[dewildeman]

It looks like all of those knives are more expensive than the Delica anyway, so why not stick with it.

[carrot]

It looks like all of those knives are more expensive than the Delica anyway, so why not stick with it.

???

The GITD Delica would be about $150, by my estimates, given that the G10 Delica is $120 and the GITD material will add a decent bit to the cost.

The regular Paramilitary is around $150 street price and would get a smaller price bump due to not having to ship the material and already being setup to do different colors.

The UKPK is around $90 street price and would have a similar price bump as the Para.

Personally I love the Delica but I favor the Para and UKPK by FAR. They have better ergos and I like the blade geometry better for fine work.

[bryce]

Para is one of my most used knives. I'd love an EDCF version.

[Rawls]

A Paramilitary would be good, but the Delica design with a wire clip is just about the perfect knife for me. I have noticed that I have I had difficulty sharpening S30V steel. I will admit that I let it go a LONG time without maintenance, but bringing an edge back took forever. The VG10 lasted probably about 85% as long, but I got an edge back MUCH faster.

GITD Delica, VG10, Full Flat Grind, with Wire Clip.

The other thing is that if we want to get this knife made, then we need to give Jon sufficient numbers that Spyderco will bite on the project. While the Paramilitary is a great knife, it is a little expensive to be a huge seller. There is a reason the Delica has been around forever--it is a nice balance of form, function, and price. As far as the UKPK is concerned, it is a sweet little blade, but I have a feeling that non-locking design will turn a lot of people off. I think that a UKPK would probably be the BEST design, but it would not sell in the same numbers as the Delica. Sometimes the perfect is the enemy of the good--we have to be a little practical. I think the above configuration would be the best we could hope for.

[carrot]

I agree with you Rawls on a lot of points.

However, it must be taken into consideration that a GITD Delica would be probably in the $150 price point. That's more than double the cost of the cheapest, FRN Delica. Do you feel that this is acceptable and would sell? My thought is that the Paramilitary is already $150, and another $20 or so for the expensive GITD G10 material wouldn't be asking as much.

Also, there's a very, very low chance of a wire clip on the Delica because it would require retooling, which would make it prohibitively expensive.

There is also NO chance of the Delica being made in S30V. It would have to be VG-10 or ZDP-189 (my preference) as the steel needs to be Japanese and a steel that Spyderco currently uses.

[Rothrandir]

We've done a poll and have to try to be as true to the results of that poll as possible. Obviously things won't work out exactly like in the poll, but we still need this to appeal to the broadest amount of people and also the people who won the vote to begin with.

When Eric gets back to Jon with a little more information we will be in a much better position to decide which way to take this.

There seems to be a lot of speculation and guessing right now about certain things, but no real indication as to whether these guesses are accurate or not. Lets try to avoid making decisions based on presumed information.

[Vic303]

I'm ok with either handle, but would prefer a Para or the Manix2 (FFG PE is best, like the blue sprint run, but with a diff handle).A factory regular Manix2 can be had retail for $70 also.

[sjmack]

As much as I love orange, GITD would kick ***. And, I would make sure to pick up one either way, so no matter what it is I am up for it.

How much did the USN spyderco run for?

[heathah]

Of all the polls, we've finally decided on the following as the members' choice:

Delica, Stonewashed S30V Blade, GiTD G-10 Handle, and Ti Wire Clip

However, due to manufacturer rules and availability, we may have to compromise a bit on some aspects of the EDC Forum Knife:

Delica - Since we voted Delica, I would recommend staying true to that model as it was the favorite. However, if a compromise cannot be made with the other aspects of the knife, perhaps a re-do of the polls is in order.

Options: Delica

Stonewashed S30V Blade - As for the blade, since the Delica is a Japan-made knife, we'll have to use VG-10 or ZDP-189 and I'm not sure we can get them stonewashed or not.

Options: Satin VG-10, Stonewashed VG-10, Satin, ZDP-189, Stonewashed ZDP-189

GiTD G-10 Handle - GiTD G-10 is the clear winner, however, orange was a distant second so we should keep that in mind. Also, since the current Delica handles are FRN, we may have to settle for this as well.

Options: GiTD, Orange, FRN, G-10

Ti Wire Clip - The wire clip isn't standard on the Delica so re-tooling the design may be necessary. Because of this, we may have to settle for the standard metal clip.

Options: Standard Metal Clip

To stay as true as possible to the polls we've run, what if we asked Spyderco if a feasible forum knife could be created with one or more of the following combinations of materials:

Delica
Satin VG-10, Stonewashed VG-10, Satin, ZDP-189, Stonewashed ZDP-189
GiTD FRN, Orange FRN, GiTD G-10, Orange G-10
Standard Metal Clip

Just a thought. Let me know what you think.

Thanks.

Heath

[carrot]

We're very likely to do G-10 GITD already. Eric Glesser is testing out the G-10 to see if it's like the stuff Spyderco normally uses and if it will machine properly for their processes.

Spyderco does in fact have a G-10 Delica model, it is VG-10 and flat ground.

[sonny]

As much as I love orange, GITD would kick bum. And, I would make sure to pick up one either way, so no matter what it is I am up for it.

How much did the USN spyderco run for?


MSRP $119.95
http://www.spyderco.com/catalog/details.php?product=415

I just knew about this knife by your post and I looked up.
Nice blade and great combo there.
I've never seen bright green handle before.

For EDCF knife, Delica in GITD G-10 and ZDP-189 would be fine with me.
Hope the price won't be way up there. :angel:

[jsmitty1967]

Let me first say I will be on board for whatever the group decides. I love this forum and I want an EDCF Spyderco no matter how it manifests itself. That said my top choice would be for the Paramilitary. I like S30v, I like that it is a US model, and the blade length is pretty similar to the Delica. My second choice would be to stay with the Delica in either available steel. My least favorite option is the non-locking UKPK.

[DB]

MSRP $119.95
http://www.spyderco.com/catalog/details.php?product=415

I just knew about this knife by your post and I looked up.
Nice blade and great combo there.
I've never seen bright green handle before.

For EDCF knife, Delica in GITD G-10 and ZDP-189 would be fine with me.
Hope the price won't be way up there. :angel:



The USN knife was considerably less than $119.95 if you were a member of USN. I want to say it was around $87 or so.

[Rawls]

I agree with you Rawls on a lot of points.

However, it must be taken into consideration that a GITD Delica would be probably in the $150 price point. That's more than double the cost of the cheapest, FRN Delica. Do you feel that this is acceptable and would sell? My thought is that the Paramilitary is already $150, and another $20 or so for the expensive GITD G10 material wouldn't be asking as much.

Also, there's a very, very low chance of a wire clip on the Delica because it would require retooling, which would make it prohibitively expensive.

There is also NO chance of the Delica being made in S30V. It would have to be VG-10 or ZDP-189 (my preference) as the steel needs to be Japanese and a steel that Spyderco currently uses.


I love the idea of a GITD handle, but it is not the end of the world. Actually, I really like Spyderco's FRN. I have no idea why people prefer G10 on a knife this size, as the added weight and cost does nothing for the performance of the blade. I like wire clips better because of a lower snag factor, but other than that...

For me the real issue would be a flat ground blade. A flat ground blade on a Delica body, without the G-10 cost, would be sweet.

As far as the steel is concerned, I'd vote S30V first, then VG-10. ZDP-189 is just too hard to sharpen at home without the aid of a Tormek-type sharpener. It could be my one bad experience, I let the blade go dull and then had to build it back up, but ZDP is a pain to deal with. The other thing for me, and I know this is not an issue for everyone, is the rust resistance of VG-10. I had a Benchmade 154CM blade next to a VG-10 blade, same use, same conditions and the Benchmade freckled like crazy. I know it doesn't affect performance, but on a $100 knife it ****** me off to have to constantly deal with rust.

[Ken C.]

A GiTD Delica would be awesome. It would definitely be unique.

[JonSidneyB]

In the polls Eric's alternate picks were not listed.

The Para and the Manix 2 were not there.

I will see if Eric can quote the Delica, Manix 2, and the Para.

It does not have to change anything but the loaded Delica might be similar in price to these others, besides I am curiuos ;D

[spyderHS08]

Alright guys, lets be smart about this!
America's not doing the best right now so with that we need our money to help stimulate the economy and support our country (goodbye delica)
It seems like alot of you guys are between the delica, para, and manix 2. Now I can say I have all 3 of those knives and I can tell you the manix is definately the best. The delica's great but its japanese made and vg10 which isnt as good as the golden made s30v. It's also a backlock which isnt as hefty as a ball lock either. I dont like how skinny the delica is, I dont know about you guys but I need a knife that I can feel when Im using it. Its just not a good knife for all of my needs, its too thin and I dont feel like I can rely on it like I can my manix. The delica is also a pretty small knife, Just not my cup of tea. Its good for some little jobs but all in all it just doesn't get the job done. The para's an alright knife but I really hate tip down carry and I know theres alot of other guys that do as well. Everytime I try to get in my pocket when Im carrying it the tang scratches my hand..it sticks out awkwardly and there's too much knife and clip that show when your carrying it. The lock isnt the best imo either. I much prefer the caged ball lock over the compression lock any day. It feels alot more sturdy and I feel that my manix could get through tasks I'd be scared to try with my delica or para. The blade steel on the para is good though, definately my favorite steel by spyderco and I'd prefer it on the manix as well. I cant wait for the blue ones to be available with the s30v. Another thing about the compression lock is that they will develop blade play with alot of hard usage and they will start to over extend to the opposite side of the knife when open and locked. Thats where your going to see play in the blade and it will make it harder to close. While you can use the caged ball lock as hard as you want and I have NEVER had a problem with a lock like that having blade play or being difficult to disengage.

Pros for the manix:
Tank like...strongest spyderco I've ever owned, its the super duty of my knives.
The lock is the most solid type of lock a knife can have imo. Its fully operational and is very easy to access/use
Theres alot of grip on the manix as well, I love all the added jimping which the delica and para don't have.
Clip- the clip is great, fairly small and discreet and rides really low profile in the pocket. unlike the para..
Has an enlarged lanyard hole so you can fit all your favorite lanyards on it so you can draw it quickly from you pocket if need be. (if your carrying a para the lanyard hole would be in the bottom of your pocket which doesnt help at all)
Its a very smooth design, it wont catch your hand and scratch it if you try to get something in the bottom of your pocket like the para does.
Its a larger knife, I prefer the manix over the delica any day for edc just because I know that it has what it takes to get it done.
Its proportionate- Unlike the para, the blade and handle on the manix go together much better. They fit better and definately match size wise unlike the para's awkwardly large handle with an unusual small blade for the handle size..
Steel- the steel on the one I have now is 154cm, but the blue one coming out and if you guys pick the manix it will be s30v which is a great steel and I dont think anyone will argue with me on that one. I have only heard great things about s30v, And if you pick the delica theres no way we can have s30v.
Liners- the manix 2 has full steel liners which add to its capabilities of being your best knife in your collection. The para has nested liners and so does the delica..taking away strength and function of the knife.
Fit and finish- The knife just plain looks good guys, theres not one thing I can pick at the manix 2 about. The blades perfect size/shape, smooth finish all around, nice clip, lock, steel, the constructions great and its an open back so it makes it easy to clean as well.

cons: Umm...nadda

If I had to get rid of every single knife that I own today except for one..oh yeah you guessed it, I'd be keeping my spyderco manix 2 combo edge. It is the best spyderco I have EVER had.

So please guys lets stop and think about this decision,
my vote is definately for the manix 2. I hope you guys will say the same..:roof:

[carrot]

The M2 is a great knife, but I still have fondness for the original... of which I have two. :D

[Boy SureFire]

I'm kinda liking the Delica... :shrug: :luck:

[JonSidneyB]

Wow,

I will see what Eric says.

Maybe someone can post some detailed pictures.

[Valolammas]

cons: Umm...nadda

Except that it's big, heavy, ugly and hollow ground. :P

(But I don't particularly like Delica or the Para either, so I probably won't use it much either way. I'll try to buy one to help support the forum, whatever the model turns out to be.)

[JonSidneyB]

Here are links to Spyderco's info


Delica (http://www.spyderco.com/catalog/details.php?product=303)

Para (http://www.spyderco.com/catalog/details.php?product=34)

Manix2 (http://www.spyderco.com/catalog/details.php?product=418)

[JonSidneyB]

Except that it's big, heavy, ugly and hollow ground. :P

(But I don't particularly like Delica or the Para either, so I probably won't use it much either way. I'll try to buy one to help support the forum, whatever the model turns out to be.)


Just curious. Which Spydies do you like?

I am guessing Sage or Dragonfly? ;D

[spyderHS08]

Except that it's big, heavy, ugly and hollow ground. :P

(But I don't particularly like Delica or the Para either, so I probably won't use it much either way. I'll try to buy one to help support the forum, whatever the model turns out to be.)


to each his own ;)
but I actually like the way the hollow grind looks particularly on the manix 2 (do we know what grind this forum knife would be if it were a manix) because the full flat grind from spyderco is impressive in s30v and if that's picked then that will definately add to the charts of a great knife. And the weight behind its awesome because when Im using a delica it feels like theres nothing there to support what Im doing..and I never feel that way with the manix.

[JonSidneyB]

We are going to ask for flat grind no matter what.

[spyderHS08]

We are going to ask for flat grind no matter what.


Perfect!
that way I can have one of each grind :highfive: my current hollow ground manix and the soon to be edcforum manix with the ffg blade :D

[JonSidneyB]

I hope I am not to pre-mature.

Again I will see what Eric says and after that we can figure things out.

[Valolammas]

Just curious. Which Spydies do you like?

I am guessing Sage or Dragonfly? ;D

Dragonfly, yes, and the Calypso Jr. (which is discontinued, but the current Caly3 is almost as good). No experience with the Sage, but it looks like I would like it. :)

[JonSidneyB]

Dragonfly, yes, and the Calypso Jr. (which is discontinued, but the current Caly3 is almost as good). No experience with the Sage, but it looks like I would like it. :)


I have never looked at a Caly3....going to take a peek.

[JonSidneyB]

The Caly is nice looking. The Leaf Storm is interesting too.

[grayman]

I'm going to vote for the Manix 2. For one, it's made in the states and I like that. My second reason is that, of the three options, it is the only knife that is truely setup for safe one handed operation. Usually when I need a heavier blade than my SAK, I'm using both hands. I like to be able to retrieve my knife, deploy it, use it, and stow it with one hand and not have to take my eyes off what I'm working on.

[JonSidneyB]

The Glow material got sent to me since I was providing the material to Eric.

It arrived and I got it shipped out to him Yesterday. He should have the sheet of glow material on Monday. I did have to play for 4 minutes before sending it off to out.

I held the sheet up the light and ran into the bathroom with it. I have never held that much glowing stuff in my hands before ;D

Now Eric gets to do some test machining with the stuff.

[ssmtbracer]

How far out do you think for the knife.

[JonSidneyB]

Hard to say.

He needs to see how this machines to be able to give a quote. I am not sure how long that will take. He needs to get me quotes then I need to find out how many people want one of these things once we have a price. I am not sure how long the manufacturing process will be after we get all the busy work behind us. I am guessing it will have to work arund their current production. I hope it will be fairly quick.

[heathah]

Spyderco does in fact have a G-10 Delica model, it is VG-10 and flat ground.


I did not know that. I've not been keeping up with Spyderco's latest as I should. :(

The flat-grind does sound good too. :)

To be honest, I'd be happy with almost any Spyderco-EDCF collaboration (a sure-to-be-great knife for an awesome forum). O0

Heath

[JonSidneyB]

I got a message from Eric today.

He said the time frame is affected by the knife chosen. He is out of town right now and glow stuff is waiting for him at his office. I hope we can get this rolling soon ;D

[thistle5]

To further muddy the waters, I have both the G-10 Caly 3 & a Caly Jr., I'd go for that model over all the others mentioned so fqr...

[mussolini]

Military or paramil GITD ZDP-189

[mussolini]

or a Manix 2 combo edge....unless there is a chance of resurrecting the original manix 95!!

[Boy SureFire]

USN got an Endura 4 Wave for $120ea. with Toxic green scales, black blade w/white USN logo... PE blade, GITD scales, and a EDCF logo would be cool.
http://www.spyderco.com/catalog/details.php?product=415

[spyderHS08]

or a Manix 2 combo edge....

+1!


also Jon, whats the latest update on this project?? :)

[Boy SureFire]

The Target start time on bringing the forum down is 11am Wendesday Eastern Time.




I have a feeling Jon's going to be pretty busy ( :luck: Jon), but I'd be interested to know the statues too.

[jzmtl]

If carrot's $150 estimate is accurate that would put a big dent in sale number I'm sure. I just paid considerably less for CF handle and CPM M4 blade, $150 delica is going to be pretty steep for people.

I still think the cat is a good choice.

[spyderHS08]

Wow,

I will see what Eric says.

Maybe someone can post some detailed pictures.


Ive taken a few comparison pics of the three that seem to have the most interest..

http://i767.photobucket.com/albums/xx312/Hschro2008/blades/DSCI0271.jpg

http://i767.photobucket.com/albums/xx312/Hschro2008/blades/DSCI0266.jpg

http://i767.photobucket.com/albums/xx312/Hschro2008/blades/DSCI0265.jpg

[Valolammas]

If carrot's $150 estimate is accurate that would put a big dent in sale number I'm sure. I just paid considerably less for CF handle and CPM M4 blade, $150 delica is going to be pretty steep for people.

Well, bear in mind that even the regular G-10 Delica (http://www.spyderco.com/catalog/details.php?product=303) has a MSRP of $180.

[dewildeman]

I'm a little confused. I thought we already decided on the model and color.

[carrot]

Well, bear in mind that even the regular G-10 Delica (http://www.spyderco.com/catalog/details.php?product=303) has a MSRP of $180.

however, my estimate was for street price, to account for the more expensive G-10 and shipping it to Japan.

[spyderHS08]

I'm a little confused. I thought we already decided on the model and color.

Just glow in the dark as the color, We havent gotten a final answer on the model have we?

[dewildeman]

I thought we'd settled on the Delica.

[carrot]

Yes, we had originally settled upon the Delica, but as I recall it was for a "stonewashed S30V Delica" with the stipulation that it would be "cheap."

However, as it turns out (and "I told you so...") the Delica can only be made in VG-10 and ZDP, so there is some discussion on whether or not to pick up a different model for the S30V steel or whether to use VG-10 or ZDP. Also since price factors heavily in people's decision to actually purchase, we want to be sure that a $150ish Delica would be acceptable to people, or if a Para or Manix around a similar price would be more acceptable.

[spyderHS08]

Yeah becaus I know Jon was wanting to use s30v for the steel and that just wont work on a delica so I dont think that will be the choice...Also thats a pretty darn big price tag for a small knife. No offense I like the delica and have 3 now I just cant see spending that amount on that particular knife.

[JonSidneyB]

When talking to Eric he brought up the other knives. He is still not back in Colorado. When I told him about the Endura it was a no go for that steel and the glow material would have to be send to Japan. A small run is expensive no matter how you cut it. The bigger the run the lower the price. The glow material is 4-5 times more costly than black G-10. I bought the sheet that I sent to him. The reason for considering the others are that pulling out all the stops on an Endura puts it in the same price range possibly as the other knives.

This does not mean we are switching. Eric is just going to give me a quote on various knives and the time frame that different knives can be done.

[spyderHS08]

This does not mean we are switching.

Im curious as to what the final choice was/is?..

thanks

[JonSidneyB]

The choice originally was Glow in the dark Delica with s30v flat ground with a wire titanium clip.

Eric told me to hang tight and he would get me quotes on several models of knives. Eric unfortunately is not in Colorado right now. He said he would get back to me on what can be done and the time frames on each.

We are waiting on Eric to get me information right now.

[jeeves3443]

Its bears repeating.

Thanks so much for your efforts in this Jon. I can't wait to get something with the EDC logo on it, beside my pack that is.

[thistle5]

Looks like the Spyderco forum knife might be a Manix 2 in translucent (like the Leafstorm)...

[spyderHS08]

Spyderco actually hasnt said anything in that thread. that was just created by users and votes casted by users but they have no idea what knife will even be picked for the forum knife this year..And if it is the manix I really really hope its not translucent....do not like that color one bit.

[happygypsy]

I'd love a glow in the dark Native... mmmm

[JonSidneyB]

The glow in the dark part is the only thing for sure. Well, assuming it machines ok.

[fallow]

I've been away for the longes time, and this is still in the pipeline? WOW! Jon, hats off to you with your effort and perseverance.

[JohnK]

is this dead now?? pleasseee no ;)

[Rothrandir]

Definitely not dead. I believe Jon is still waiting to hear back from Eric.

[dewildeman]

Anybody know why I can't view any posts in this thread for the last month?



I keep getting new message notices, but nothing was there. (added 042310).

[Rothrandir]

Anybody know why I can't view any posts in this thread for the last month?

Probably because there haven't been any...

[Monocrom]

:(

Is this project dead in the water?

[p99fan]

Knife handles can be any color, as long as it's OD or black.

[JonSidneyB]

Not dead. I am waiting for Eric right now. He tested how the material machined.

[houdini28]

Anybody know why I can't view any posts in this thread for the last month?


Probably because there haven't been any...

I presume Dewildeman is referring to the fact that this thread comes up sporadically on the "What's New?" button despite there being no new posts. I cannot wait for there to be a new post stating the knife has come to fruition.

[cougar337]

I am glad to see this is still going forward, I am really looking forward to seeing what Spyderco can come up with. Thanks for making this a possibility for all of us, I am in for at least 1, maybe 2 depending on if there is any purchasing limit. I would like to see everyone get one that wants one.

[Monocrom]

Not dead. I am waiting for Eric right now. He tested how the material machined.

Thanks for the update! :)

[greyhound352]

Hopefully they will go into production soon!

[JonSidneyB]

I got a message from Eric,

He said he would get back to me in about a week with details.

[greyhound352]

Great news, Jon!!

[JP]

Excellent! or EggSalad!! depending on your pronunciation :laugh:

[jsmitty1967]

Sweet! I can't wait to see how this turns out.

[JonSidneyB]

Just letting everyone know this is not dead, it is just moving slowly. I heard from Eric at Spyderco and we will get something going. When we have something major to announce we will start a new thread and a mass email.

[JonSidneyB]

I know this is going very slow. I am waiting for Eric to get back to me again, he is painfully busy but he will get back to us.

[Simsmac0o]

Whoa, how did I miss this thread?!? This is an awesome idea! Have decisions been made about the details on the knife (model, blade configuration)? From the look of past posts, there was a lot of waffling going on. ;D GITD G-10 sounds awesome though.

[Samhain73]

Fantastic. :D

[Rev. Chuck]

count me in for one!!!!!

[Hoshnasi]

Any chance of a full flat ground with a wave? :)

[GRIFFINHAWKS]

What ever model it turns out to be I'm good for one ,)

BE WELL .. GH

[Hoshnasi]

What ever model it turns out to be I'm good for one ,)

BE WELL .. GH

Yeah I definately want one regardless.

[Cuso]

Can't wait...

[Sidetracker]

I'd like one also.

[NoFair]

A proto perhaps: http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showpost.php?p=8323839&postcount=1
(http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showpost.php?p=8323839&postcount=1)

[DemskeetSkeet]

A proto perhaps: http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showpost.php?p=8323839&postcount=1
(http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showpost.php?p=8323839&postcount=1)

If you watch the video from the bladeforums link you can see it around the 2:00 minute mark.

That's gotta be the EDCF proto knife!

I don't know what else it could be but it looks great!

[jp2515]

So when does the preorder start? I got my $$$ ready

[JonSidneyB]

I heard from Eric today. The material changed in composition slightly so they tested again. He said the material worked out fantastic.

I am told that someone would be contacting me soon with details.

[houdini28]

I heard from Eric today. The material changed in composition slightly so they tested again. He said the material worked out fantastic.

I am told that someone would be contacting me soon with details.

Excellent! I eagerly look forward to one.

[TooSharp]

Can't wait.

[tdonily]

I like this knife, regardless of color (but GiTD would be my choice). Plus due to replace what I currently have, so lookin' forward to updates.

[OtisCampbell]

GiTD all the way!