The EDCF Keychain. Well, there is no chain.

[JonSidneyB]

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o319/jonsidneyb/EDCFKeychain.jpg

I don't have a photo yet as they are being made up.


There is one thing wrong with the drawing, it shows 6 loops, there are actually 5 on it.

I expect these in the next 5 working days ;D

[landwire]

That is pretty snazzy.

[JonSidneyB]

Thanks to fallow for help with graphics ;D

[V a a m Y o b]

Will the center piece be aluminum, brass, steel, titanium, none of the above?

[heck333]

OOOOOHH! Me likey! Any idea of the cost?

Greg

[JonSidneyB]

It is made from tempered steel (I don't know which steel). The center is going to be covered printed art. It will be clear dome like you see on the ones that Wenger has.

These will not be very expensive. I am waiting on the Invoice to see all of my costs.

I hope one of the first persons that gets one of these will take a photo that is suitable for the store ;D

[jp2515]

Will the center portion where the rings attach have a clip?

[JonSidneyB]

It is way too tiny for a clip.

I have used this design for a long time but the ones I have had were made from pot metal rather than steel. They came apart rather easily. These are a lot tougher than the others I have seen.

I used to use the ones from Fossil. What I like about the is you can quickly change the load out on your keychain. I kept one on a little tree on the dresser with the items I didn't wan to carry that day and the other went into the pocket.

You can attack a chain or clip on one of the split rings easy enough. These are small items. The head of my house key has a slightly wider foot print than this device.

Here is one that I even carried a keychain revolver on. The one in the picture is by Fossil. These are better built and tougher. Look how huge those clips look next the the Key device.

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o319/jonsidneyb/642.jpg

[JonSidneyB]

I show pictures of the guns and I kill the thread :P

[jp2515]

I was gonna say that's a nice set of revolvers (should have posted it earlier LOL)

[sjmack]

I'm glad I have the itch to go buy something. As soon as these come in I will definitely pick a few up.

[OmarTrader]

I've been looking for one of these for a while now, and it sounds like it's going to be strong.

How would i go about buying one or two of these when they come out, will it be in the shop?

[JonSidneyB]

Yep,

I will get them added to the shop soon. ;D

[smokelaw1]

Hadn't seen this thread, these look great. I've been looking for something like this. I'll keep my eye on the store!

[sgtrutledge]

when can I order one :)

[Chief-Yeah]

aww cool . . . I want one . . . what a great idea !! Been carrying one of these for years :
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g59/Chief845/MVC-013S.jpg
this pic is old,I've changed a couple things since but you get the idea.

[JonSidneyB]

The keychains are supposed to arrive on Wednesday according to UPS. I will get them on the store sometime tonight ;D

[saniterra]

I'm glad you're having these made up, particularly since they will be made of steel. I once had one of the Bison Designs models and the "pot metal" belt loop connection just failed. Luckily, the keys and EDC were in my pocket.

[JonSidneyB]

I'm glad you're having these made up, particularly since they will be made of steel. I once had one of the Bison Designs models and the "pot metal" belt loop connection just failed. Luckily, the keys and EDC were in my pocket.


What kind of price does Bison have on theirs?

[JonSidneyB]

These have been added to the store.

They are due to arrive on Wednesday.

EDCF Keychain (http://www.jsburlysflashlights.com/cgi-bin/ccp51//cp-app.cgi?usr=51I3822478&rnd=7241179&rrc=N&affl=&cip=98.188.147.225&act=&aff=&pg=prod&ref=edcf_keychain&cat=keychainitems&catstr=HOME:keychainitems)

[landwire]

Placed an order for one.

[JonSidneyB]

It is a good opportunity to get a key chain pen when in there ;D

[JohnK]

i just ordered one
what do you suggest i use a chain for it i was thinking a dogs choker collar but if there is somthin better id like to know...thanks :)

[JonSidneyB]

That would be way to heavy for this size of a device.

I can get the chains like are used on the Wenger one.

[JohnK]

That would be way to heavy for this size of a device.

I can get the chains like are used on the Wenger one.

really? thatd be great :D

[Pheonix886]

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o319/jonsidneyb/EDCFKeychain.jpg

I don't have a photo yet as they are being made up.


There is one thing wrong with the drawing, it shows 6 loops, there are actually 5 on it.

I expect these in the next 5 working days ;D


IT LOOKS LIKE THE OLD WENGER KEYCHAINS!!!!
You're my hero ...

EDIT: 7 bucks. Sweet.

[saniterra]

What kind of price does Bison have on theirs?


The Bison Design's "Key Circle" is $7.00 at their online site. I don't know about retail outlets. The circle itself is anodized aluminum - much less than type III - the key split rings are steel and all the rest seems to be pot metal, which wasn't a problem except on the main clasp where all the weight rests.

[bltkmt]

Can't really tell, or am really dumb, but do the smaller rings disconnect easily somehow if you need to? For instance, to pop off and give car key to valet?

Detachable is the word I am looking for...are the rings easily detachable?

[OmarTrader]

Just bought mine, If I still have a camera I'll take a picture when it gets here.

[JohnK]

Can't really tell, or am really dumb, but do the smaller rings disconnect easily somehow if you need to? For instance, to pop off and give car key to valet?

Detachable is the word I am looking for...are the rings easily detachable?

yes there is a button in the middle ring then u just move the one u want out to the slot and itll come out

[Pheonix886]

yes there is a button in the middle ring then u just move the one u want out to the slot and itll come out



Is it secure? Could stuff fall out if it clinks around too much?

[crossroads]

Oh wow, it's actually detachable... My interest in this just went up a few notches. :) Eagerly awaiting the review.

[bltkmt]

yes there is a button in the middle ring then u just move the one u want out to the slot and itll come out


So you have yours already?

[JohnK]

So you have yours already?

no ive seen the same type of keychain before though

[phill]

Is it secure? Could stuff fall out if it clinks around too much?


Assuming its exactly the same as the Wenger one i have, its extremely secure.

On that note Jon, you should do a youtube video showing how it works (or get someone else to do so). Its something that would be easy to show in a couple of seconds but isnt easy to describe in words.

[JonSidneyB]

About a dozen of these have shipped out today. I really like how they look.

I hope someone can take a photograph that I can use for the store. My photography skills are not the best ;D

[JonSidneyB]

Have any of these landed yet?

[Dizos]

I can't wait to see a picture! :woohoo:

[JohnK]

got mine today maybe ill take a pic tomorrow

[JohnK]

i dont know how to add pictures to the forum i have em just dont know how to add

[phill]

go to:
http://imageshack.us/

Click browse and select your image(s) where it is on your comp.

Click start upload.

When its done it will direct you to another page where you can copy the direct link(s), click the thumbnail if you uploaded more than one pic, and post it here using the image tags.

[JohnK]

smaller than i thought but im still very happy with it
http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/2189/keychain.jpg (http://img41.imageshack.us/i/keychain.jpg/)http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/keychain.jpg/1/w2048.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img41/keychain.jpg/1/)

this one shows how the mechanism works u slide the button and a piece of the track moves back allowing you to remove the ring

http://img203.imageshack.us/img203/8607/keychain2.jpg (http://img203.imageshack.us/i/keychain2.jpg/)http://img203.imageshack.us/img203/keychain2.jpg/1/w2048.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img203/keychain2.jpg/1/)

here i compared it to a spyderco tenacious

http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/5262/keychainwithknife.jpg (http://img97.imageshack.us/i/keychainwithknife.jpg/)http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/keychainwithknife.jpg/1/w320.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img97/keychainwithknife.jpg/1/)

[max6166]

Thanks for taking the time to post the photos! Looks great! :cheers:

[Tripp Hazzard]

Mine arrived a couple of days ago.

Very nice, heavy construction. the individual holders are easy to remove and reattach.

I did quite a bit of manipulation of the rings, moving stuff from one ring to another, and none of them loosened up. Cheap split rings can open up slightly after much manipulation, leaving a small gap. These didn't do that.

If you're considering one, go for it.

[landwire]

I got mine the other day. I jut don't know what to do with it yet. I bought it really to support the forum.

[JonSidneyB]

I got mine the other day. I jut don't know what to do with it yet. I bought it really to support the forum.


Load it up with keychain tools. ;D

What I really like about them is things go on and off easily and is still secure.

[sjmack]

I just ordered two of these. Can't wait for em to come in :D

[zenlunatic]

Ordered two :roof:

[Chief-Yeah]

http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/3517/edco.th.jpg (http://img11.imageshack.us/i/edco.jpg/)
I call this my survival keychain and as you can see my photography skills leave alot to be desired but you get the idea . . . let's see starting clockwise at high noon is Steel Flame Blade Hook,Wykeite Ti Whistle,Swisskey,Dovo Nail Clippers,Uncle Bills Tweezers,Pico Widgy Pry Bar,DeanJ Ti Back-up Lighter,Ti Draco w/Gitd O-rings,Magnesium Flint Rod and a Valiant Concepts Ti Pen all on a brandy new EDCF keychain.I also swapped out all the split rings in favor of spro #7's I believe.

[Lugsalot]

Well, looks like I'll be making another order pretty soon! :D

This is becoming an almost monthly habit! :laugh:

[bltkmt]

Just ordered two - these look great!

[Dizos]

http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/3517/edco.th.jpg (http://img11.imageshack.us/i/edco.jpg/)
I call this my survival keychain and as you can see my photography skills leave alot to be desired but you get the idea . . . let's see starting clockwise at high noon is Steel Flame Blade Hook,Wykeite Ti Whistle,Swisskey,Dovo Nail Clippers,Uncle Bills Tweezers,Pico Widgy Pry Bar,DeanJ Ti Back-up Lighter,Ti Draco w/Gitd O-rings,Magnesium Flint Rod and a Valiant Concepts Ti Pen all on a brandy new EDCF keychain.I also swapped out all the split rings in favor of spro #7's I believe.


Very cool!

[Chief-Yeah]

:ty: I really like this setup cause it's real easy to swap something out when I get tired of it or get something new.Now if I can just get the keychain in titanium

[tradja]

After struggling with my keychain just this morning, I see this thread. I'll have to motivate this week to put an order in. As long as I'm springing for shipping, I guess I'll probably have to throw in an EDCF patch too. And maybe a Barkie... :D

[JonSidneyB]

:)

I will be adding a few Barkies this weekend ;D

[porkchop]

How many of the holders will fit on one of the caddies?

[zenlunatic]

What do you mean?

[phill]

Are they the same as the Wenger chains (as posted in the other thread about this) with the attachment things being interchangeable?

[tradja]

What do you mean?

Perhaps porkchop is wondering about adding additional rings to the central fob, in addition to the 5 that come with it. I was wondering this myself, except that I was thinking about taking a rings off, and either storing it or giving it away.

[Chief-Yeah]

yes you can add and remove the rings as much as you like,I bought two myself just so I'd have extra rings to add to one keychain.I had all ten of 'em on one keychain and I'd say you could probably fit four or five more if you were so inclined.
'Word of caution . . . the "stems" are a hair smaller than the ones on the circle caddy key ring,I had to swap them.The ones from the circle caddy key ring fit but didn't move as freely.

[max6166]

yes you can add and remove the rings as much as you like,I bought two myself just so I'd have extra rings to add to one keychain.I had all ten of 'em on one keychain and I'd say you could probably fit four or five more if you were so inclined.
'Word of caution . . . the "stems" are a hair smaller than the ones on the circle caddy key ring,I had to swap them.The ones from the circle caddy key ring fit but didn't move as freely.


I thought these were Bison Circle Caddy keyrings? Shouldn't they be the same parts then? Or am I completely confused (which is usually the case). :idiot2:


I am definitely going to grab a couple as soon as funds permit though. :thumbsup:

[JonSidneyB]

These are not Bison.

[zenlunatic]

I have the bison. I think these ones Jon has are nicer IMO. I'll take some pictures when I get home.

[max6166]

These are not Bison.


Ah, that clears things up. I misunderstood a previous post and have been confused every since... :idiot2:

[JonSidneyB]

Thats OK,

I am very happy the way these things turned out ;D

[JonSidneyB]

Someone should eventually post their load out in the keychain section ;D

[zenlunatic]

http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/2888/dscn1819j.th.jpg (http://img198.imageshack.us/i/dscn1819j.jpg/)
This is just what I carry in my Pygmy Falcon 2 I use for school.

http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/5329/dscn1827y.th.jpg (http://img35.imageshack.us/i/dscn1827y.jpg/)
Here is the bison comparison.

[crossroads]

Thanks for the pics everyone, will definitely snag 2 when the BRKT PSKs come along. :highfive:

[Lugsalot]

Got mine today, and will begin integrating it into my current EDC tomorrow, when there's more time to play with my setup. :knuppel2:

Thanks, Jon! :)

[cptd]

I used to have the bison. It wore out after a year or so and things would start falling off of it. I have gone through 2 fo the bison and I fully expect that my new EDCF keychains (without the chain) will far outlast the bison.

Thaks for such a great product.

CPTD

[bltkmt]

Jon: received my two, and these things are GREAT! Very solid feeling and a great value. I loaded one up with my keys and it is in my pocket to stay. Thanks!

Is the Urban Wallet idea dead at this point? Would buy another of those from you if you get them.

[JonSidneyB]

The Urban Wallet is not dead yet. It just looks like he was way behind due to surgery and other events.


Anyone that has an EDCF key thingy loaded up, help me out and post a picture in the Keychain section ;D

[tradja]

Finally pulled the trigger and ordered one. :woohoo: I'll figure out a Barkie later, I wanted to get this in the mail!

Got big plans for this one. When I run I need to bring my car key with me, but not my whole jangly keychain. This QD will be great.

[bltkmt]

This thing makes me smile everytime I pull it out of my pocket...best keychain I have had.

[bltkmt]

The Urban Wallet is not dead yet. It just looks like he was way behind due to surgery and other events.

Great! I look forward to ordering another one from your store.

[Fusilier]

My order of three just arrived this week. These are great.

I ordered three based on the following thinking:
a. I can support the Forums.
b. When I find something I like, I know that if I don't order several, I'll never be able to find them again should I want more or a replacement.
c. This way I get extra ring parts to add more things to the central disk I plan to EDC.
d. If I'm paying for shipping, I might as well double or tripple the order.

I'll get photos up on the weeeknd.

My only regret is I didn't have this a few weeks ago. I seem to have lost my Valiant Concepts SS pen. I suspect the gizmo clip got twisted in my pocket. Now I have to order another one.

Anyway, I'm thrilled with these little devices. Great workmanship and pure utility. The complete opposite of most things you run across in your day.

[tradja]

Jon got this shipped out quick, and I gotta say it's a winner.  Here's a few pics showing the quality of construction -- no sloppy burrs or pot metal here!  The action is slick and positive. 

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v399/tradja/IMGP3761.jpg
Yes, I am aware that there is an empty ring.  Please do not revoke my EDC status, I'm working on it!  :)  Sometimes less is more.

Detail of "gate" and trigger:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v399/tradja/IMGP3763.jpg

Here's the "gate" in the open position:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v399/tradja/IMGP3765.jpg

I keep my car key by itself on a separate ring because I need to QD it a few times a week when I run.  Even when loaded, the whole package is a lot less bulky than I anticipated  -- in pocket, it kind of collapses down on itself to make an organized, non-tangled bundle. 

After just a few minutes of handling, my wife wants me to order one for her.  :smitten:

[crossroads]

Excellent pics tradja. I must admit that despite everyone explaining the mechanism, I was still unsure on how this thing worked. Looks like a great little piece of kit.

[zenlunatic]

How many of these did you order just curious

[JonSidneyB]

tradja

Thanks for those detailed pictures ;D

[saniterra]

Just got mine today. This is way better than the Bison Designs model. Nothing on the EDCF model except stainless steel (except for the clear cover over the EDC logo. I may have to order at least one more. Jon, can the individual key keepers be purchased?

[Fusilier]

Anyone else have difficulty with the separate ring/pins coming off the central disk inside your pocket? Mine tends to leave a sub-ring in the pocket on occasion. I purchased three of these units so I've just swapped my EDC tools (prybar, RES-Q-ME, Leatherman Micra and my 'If found, please call ..." Dog Tag) to see if I may have just a loose centre disk.

I love this thing and I hope I can sort out this issue. I've already lost my Valiant Concepts pen due to what I think was a bad clip and I was hoping these key chains were more secure.

[JonSidneyB]

Anyone else have difficulty with the separate ring/pins coming off the central disk inside your pocket? Mine tends to leave a sub-ring in the pocket on occasion. I purchased three of these units so I've just swapped my EDC tools (prybar, RES-Q-ME, Leatherman Micra and my 'If found, please call ..." Dog Tag) to see if I may have just a loose centre disk.

I love this thing and I hope I can sort out this issue. I've already lost my Valiant Concepts pen due to what I think was a bad clip and I was hoping these key chains were more secure.


I am trying to make one of the rings come off without pushing the tab and am not able to do it. Is this happening on all three of them. If all three are giving you trouble I will refund you on them. If it is just one I can send you a replacement.

PM sent.

[Fusilier]

I am trying to make one of the rings come off without pushing the tab and am not able to do it. Is this happening on all three of them. If all three are giving you trouble I will refund you on them. If it is just one I can send you a replacement.

PM sent.


PM sent. Thanks.

I've swapped out the first centre ring and the second one seems to work much better (at least so far). The first one has a rough opening latch. The new one slides open and closed under my thumb nail very smoothly. The third one (not out of the bag yet) also opens and closed smoothly. The first one felt rough, kind of like it wanted to hang open a little or at least it didn't seem to close smoothly. This may be the problem with that first ring. I'll let you know if that solves it.

[Fusilier]

PM sent. Thanks.

I've swapped out the first centre ring and the second one seems to work much better (at least so far). The first one has a rough opening latch. The new one slides open and closed under my thumb nail very smoothly. The third one (not out of the bag yet) also opens and closed smoothly. The first one felt rough, kind of like it wanted to hang open a little or at least it didn't seem to close smoothly. This may be the problem with that first ring. I'll let you know if that solves it.


The new ring unit is working great. No slipping of attachments that I can tell. Here is a photo my rig:

http://i673.photobucket.com/albums/vv100/Fusilier111/Misc%20EDC/KeyRing.jpg

The RES-Q-Me cost me 25 cents and the Leatherman cost me $2.00, both at the local Airport charity sale.
The pry bar has a bit of black Gaffer's tape on the tip to keep it from chewing holes in my pants pockets.
Under the cloth is my 'If found ...' dog tag. Once my new Maratac flashlight comes in, it will become the 5th item on the ring.
Lastly, once I order a replacement, I'll stick a Valiant Concepts pen on there to round out the set.

[JonSidneyB]

How many of these did you order just curious


Hundreds of them, it was the only way I could get it done.

[ssmtbracer]

Just got my EDCF keychain and they are awesome just what I needed for all my keys and stuff I got 2 just in case I need extra rings. I love it Thank you Jon for getting these.

[bltkmt]

I love my two so much, I ordered two more!

[sgtrutledge]

I have had my EDCF keychain for a few month and I like it except the pins key coming detached in my pocket. I almost lost my house key last night when they fell off when i pulled my keys out. Is there anyway to fix this?

[JonSidneyB]

This is two of them that has had a problem.

I am going to send you a replacement. I need to try and find out if this is a case of a couple of lemons or not. There are more than 80 of them out there.

Has anyone else had any problems?

[tradja]

Mine stay attached so far, in pocket or pack. Is it an issue with a weak trigger spring failing to hold the gate closed? I can't imagine that some of the individual ring knobs are pulling directly out of the track - it would have to bend those rails pretty good and/or squash the knob.

[JonSidneyB]

I am thinking that it was a couple of lemons. There is a whole bunch of them out there. Will see if anyone else has any issues.

[mikeinrancho]

Mine stay attached so far, in pocket or pack. Is it an issue with a weak trigger spring failing to hold the gate closed? I can't imagine that some of the individual ring knobs are pulling directly out of the track - it would have to bend those rails pretty good and/or squash the knob.


It is an issue of the posts that protrude from one half of the holder into holes on the other half of the holder. During assembly they are 'staked' to create a flange (rivet-style) that holds the halves together. If the staked flange is not large enough (or staked off-center as in my case) it allows the two halves to pull apart a very small amount, which allows the ball shaped thingee's (still can't come up with a name for those things - okay 'ring knobs' it is) to slip out of their track. I've smacked a center punch down the middle of the post on mine that loosened up and I'm giving it a test now.
BTW, Jon is sending me a new one... can't complain about that customer service. O0

Here you can see the 'staked flange' on the post on the left is not making contact with the counter-sink in the holder.

http://mikeandvalery.smugmug.com/My-SmugMug-Creations/My-Smug-Mug/pic-3/712121757_GPH4v-M.jpg

[Estrie]

Just ordered two of these (one for myself and one for the husband) and two kubotans. Look good.

[tradja]

Ah, thanks for the detail mikeinrancho -- so the track is essentially flaring when those pins don't hold the two halves tightly together. I have not had my celluoid logo off and didn't realize the two halves were held together with peened pins.



It is an issue of the posts that protrude from one half of the holder into holes on the other half of the holder. During assembly they are 'staked' to create a flange (rivet-style) that holds the halves together. If the staked flange is not large enough (or staked off-center as in my case) it allows the two halves to pull apart a very small amount, which allows the ball shaped thingee's (still can't come up with a name for those things - okay 'ring knobs' it is) to slip out of their track. I've smacked a center punch down the middle of the post on mine that loosened up and I'm giving it a test now.
BTW, Jon is sending me a new one... can't complain about that customer service. O0

Here you can see the 'staked flange' on the post on the left is not making contact with the counter-sink in the holder.

http://mikeandvalery.smugmug.com/My-SmugMug-Creations/My-Smug-Mug/pic-3/712121757_GPH4v-M.jpg

[mikeinrancho]

Ah, thanks for the detail mikeinrancho -- so the track is essentially flaring when those pins don't hold the two halves tightly together. I have not had my celluoid logo off and didn't realize the two halves were held together with peened pins.



I think the problem in my case was one of the pins was peened off-center so it wasn't getting a full 'grip'. I've since re-whacked both pins with a center punch and tried pulling them apart and they are going nowhere. I have used it for 2 days now with nothing falling off. I'll give it a few more days then put the cap and sticker back on.

[Fusilier]

I just did the same thing with the one ring I had that was tossing connecters. I peeled off the sticker and its plate, peened the loose rivet a touch and I oiled the mechanism with a couple of drops of oil for good measure. Now it is nice and tight and I just have to glue the EDC sticker back on.

[FlatFender]

I'm glad I read this thread, as I was just going to post about my key chain dropping keys. I'll try peeling the label and peening the rivets.

[JP]

Here is a pic of how I carry my EDCF Keychain with a MicGizmo Clip. A leatherman micra is in the watch pocket on my jeans.


http://lh3.ggpht.com/_NYcqg5POtR4/SylPiBh5o2I/AAAAAAAAAE0/WUPpZppMKg8/s288/P1010177.JPG

http://lh3.ggpht.com/_NYcqg5POtR4/SylPiS5QrGI/AAAAAAAAAE4/BduIU1Rk23U/s288/P1010178.JPG

[JohnK]

hey there jon awhile ago you said you were gonnna get a couple of chains...is that actually gonna happen

[Zwiebelkeks]

I just did the same thing with the one ring I had that was tossing connecters. I peeled off the sticker and its plate, peened the loose rivet a touch and I oiled the mechanism with a couple of drops of oil for good measure. Now it is nice and tight and I just have to glue the EDC sticker back on.


Same problem here. How did you remove the "plate" underneath the EDCF sticker?

[Rothrandir]

Same problem here. How did you remove the "plate" underneath the EDCF sticker?


The "plate" is glued down, it's not very thick. I took one of mine apart out of curiosity and was able to pry that up with an exacto knife.

[Kardolf]

Thank you Jon! I just got mine yesterday. Been carrying the Bison Designs caddy for about a year with no problems until the day I ordered. The thumb stud fell out, and most of the parts (spring, and whatever else) went missing. The EDCF model is much nicer, from the gate to the way the carrier is put together. Only con is that the Bison rings are a little more stout. But, still a nice offering.

[bltkmt]

One of mine started dropping items too recently. As I had a backup, I simply swapped it out. I am not keen on tearing these apart to "peen"...whatever that is. I figure I will just order a few more and if they fail, replace them.

[chevyscrounger]

Ive had mine for about 2 months and i randomly lose stuff off of it. Mine isnt springing apart as much as a couple of the ring nubs work their way past the gate because the gate has some slop in it.

[JP]

I just peened one of mine successfully. It tightens it right up, hopefully this will hold for awhile as I do like the system.

[arab]

I have owned one of these keyholders for many years and it works very well in practice. In the 15+ years I've used it, I have had no problems with it whatsoever. Looking at some of the posts above, I think I know why some of these new ones are giving trouble: The main circular component on mine (The part that the "pins" go into) is one piece. This means that it can't separate which means the pins cannot fall out. I have never had anything get detached in error. I would think that separating this Circular component into 2 pieces is a design flaw, although I understand that it would make the key holders easier to manufacture.

The only mark on mine is the patent number. If you are interested, these are the original patent details: http://ip.com/patent/US5224366

One problem with the design is that if you loose some "pins", it is difficult to find replacements; I have only 4 "pins" remaining and dread to think of loosing any more. If anyone out there have any spares they could post to Ireland - my pins have a 4mm ball size - name your paypal price!

P.S. My First post here - great Forum!

[mlg]

This is two of them that has had a problem.

I am going to send you a replacement. I need to try and find out if this is a case of a couple of lemons or not. There are more than 80 of them out there.

Has anyone else had any problems?

Hello, Jon
Sorry for digging up an old thread.

I placed my order for two of the EDFC Keychains on Tuesday by midnight and received them on Friday. Thank you for the very fast delivery. This keychains are great and solid.

Unfortunately, there is a problem. One of the keychains has only one connecting rod in the shape it's supposed to be: a (almost) spherical head and cylindrical groove body (see pictures in post #77 in this thread).

The other four rods have flattened heads the half size of the original and a conical groove. This makes me afraid to attach keys to this rods, because they definitely will be lost!

[JonSidneyB]

Hello, Jon
Sorry for digging up an old thread.

I placed my order for two of the EDFC Keychains on Tuesday by midnight and received them on Friday. Thank you for the very fast delivery. This keychains are great and solid.

Unfortunately, there is a problem. One of the keychains has only one connecting rod in the shape it's supposed to be: a (almost) spherical head and cylindrical groove body (see pictures in post #77 in this thread).

The other four rods have flattened heads the half size of the original and a conical groove. This makes me afraid to attach keys to this rods, because they definitely will be lost!

I will send replacements.

:)

[mlg]

I will send replacements.

:)

Thank you! Great customer service. Hope the replacements will have no defects...

[JonSidneyB]

Thank you! Great customer service. Hope the replacements will have no defects...

I will open the packages.