EDCF Self-Defense Pen Information

[JonSidneyB]

EDCF Self-Defense Pen Information.

These will be manufactured by Tuff-Writer. These pictures show one in black and one in silver. The pen that will be available through the forum will be a Darkish Gray.


The pen will look like this except for the color. These will be sterile with no markings.

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o319/jonsidneyb/tuffwriteredcf.gif

5.75 length in the closed position.

The weight is 1.5 oz.

I will be updated on the time frame soon.

Right now I will give a long estimate of 4-6 weeks. It probably will not be near that long.

If you want Black or Silver you can get that directly from Tuff-Writer. If you would like Gray those will come from me.

As I get updates from Tuff-Writer I will post them here. ;D

[Codeman]

I have my money ready and waiting for a gray one.

[tmedina]

I have my money ready and waiting for a gray one.


:iagree: +1

-Trevor

[rooikat]

I'm in for a gray one.

[zenlunatic]

I would but my best mate is getting married, taking my money... >:(

[echo63]

ooh,
tuffwriter, with no markings, in grey, helping forum
i might have to place an order in the edcf store soon *agh, shouldnt have looked at the store, i got $100 worth of stuff in the cart already, just waiting for the pen now*


these would look good with a little EDCF logo on them too - and a serial number (ie EDCF001)
or even just the serial

[illusion]

ooh,
tuffwriter, with no markings, in grey, helping forum
i might have to place an order in the edcf store soon


+1

[Jedi Knife]

Are you accepting payment from these now?

[JonSidneyB]

Are you accepting payment from these now?


Not just yet. I want to be able to have a better idea of the delivery date before I do anything.

Thanks for asking ;D

[JonSidneyB]

One of the things I like about this pen is that it looks nice as a pen on its own. It will be a very attractive functional pen even if never called on for its design purpose. ;D

I think the best multi-function items are the ones that don't compromise on at least one of the functions, better yet if it is both functions.

[tmedina]

I imagine there will be a notification in this thread when the pens are available, but should we be looking in JS Burly's or the EDCDepot?

-Trevor

[DemskeetSkeet]

I imagine there will be a notification in this thread when the pens are available, but should we be looking in JS Burly's or the EDCDepot?

-Trevor


EDCDepot is ran by sharpdogs, he is a member of the forums but it's his own website. These are being sold by Jon and the funds go to the forums so they will be available at JSBurleysflashlights.

He'll keep us updated as to when they will be available(I'm sure he'll post here before they go on his website and I'm sure he'll have enough to go around for a few months.

Take care
-Matt

[faca]

price?

[Dizos]

price?


Based on a post from Jon in the color poll thread: $86.36

[ScarletPimpernel]

Can these be shipped to UK?

[Valolammas]

Can these be shipped to UK?

Jon does ship internationally, I've ordered stuff from him a few times. So I don't see why it couldn't.

[JonSidneyB]

Yep,,,,

I will ship to the UK ;D

[tmedina]

Great, now when can we get our new toy? ;D

-Trevor

[echo63]

will these be the 5.75" "Shorty" length or the 6.5" fullsize ?
EDIT - shoulda read the OP Properly, 5.75" Shorty,

[adriatikfan]

I would also be very interested in having one shipped to the UK. What should I do now?

Best Wishes
David

[JonSidneyB]

I would also be very interested in having one shipped to the UK. What should I do now?

Best Wishes
David


Right now just wait. I am waiting to hear back from Tuff-Writer on Monday and Tuesday. When I get a time line I can then do more. I have been trying a few different unrelated things but most of it is future things. I am going to try and keep various thing for the future on track but I am going to have to start focusing more on the present.

I will post again here when I know more about timing and can be more specific about what to do.


Thanks
Jon

[adriatikfan]

Thanks for the reply Jon - much appreciated. O0

Best Wishes
David



Right now just wait. I am waiting to hear back from Tuff-Writer on Monday and Tuesday. When I get a time line I can then do more. I have been trying a few different unrelated things but most of it is future things. I am going to try and keep various thing for the future on track but I am going to have to start focusing more on the present.

I will post again here when I know more about timing and can be more specific about what to do.


Thanks
Jon

[tinyblob]

any idea on pricing?

[JonSidneyB]

I just got off the phone with them. They are telling me 4 weeks. There will be 30 in the first batch. If these are able to move then a full batch will be ordered rather than some being pulled from their regular production run.

[Cold Flame]

I just got off the phone with them. They are telling me 4 weeks. There will be 30 in the first batch. If these are able to move then a full batch will be ordered rather than some being pulled from their regular production run.


Can you confirm if the $86.36 price listed below is accurate? I am very interested in one of these and am about 95% sure I will be purchasing one. I took a look at their website and it looks to be an incredible product both in function and design.

So, I think it's safe to say that you can +1 me on this order too.

PS: Great site Jon; this is my first post (though I've been lurking for a week or two now) and hopefully many will follow!

[JonSidneyB]

Thanks,

They actually called me back and said it looks like 3 weeks. That helps a bunch.

[echo63]

Checked with the office of war and finance (my wife) and I can get one providing I don't get tempted whilst browsing the store - and buy other stuff too
(I did just buy a new laptop - otherwise I could)
I have a memo in my phone - popping up in 3 weeks to check the shop :)

[JonSidneyB]

bumping this just cuz I can ;D

[Jedi Knife]

Just checking- any word on these yet?

[JonSidneyB]

I checked with them last Friday and they were estimating 2-3 weeks. I will check with them again. I hope I don't become a pest.

[JonSidneyB]

I just got off the phone with Tuff-Writer.

These will be available soon. They might be ready in two weeks but if anything goes wrong it could be four weeks. The safe answer is they are four weeks out.

[Jedi Knife]

Thanks for the update, Jon!

[JonSidneyB]

I am going to open these up to any what want to pre-order. The first batch will be 30 pens. They did tell me they thought these barrels were turning out nicer than the last batch even though the last batch was nice.

I was told that currently Tuff-Writer is out of pens themselves when you try and checkout. It looks like they are getting good demand for their products.

Again These pens will be Gray, not black like the picture.

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o319/jonsidneyb/tuffpen.jpg

You can pre-order here defense pen (http://www.jsburlysflashlights.com/cgi-bin/ccp51//cp-app.cgi?usr=51I7472954&rnd=4717097&rrc=N&affl=&cip=70.254.228.26&act=&aff=&pg=prod&ref=tuffwritersterilegray&cat=pens&catstr=HOME:pens)

I didn't plan it this way. My site has free shipping on any order above $90.00 A couple of McGizmo, Clips, an EDCF patch, or if you were thinking of a Boker or something that will put you over the top for free shipping.

[JonSidneyB]

bump

[tmedina]

Sweet! How do we go about placing a pre-order?

-Trevor

[JonSidneyB]

You can pre-order here defense pen (http://www.jsburlysflashlights.com/cgi-bin/ccp51//cp-app.cgi?usr=51I7472954&rnd=4717097&rrc=N&affl=&cip=70.254.228.26&act=&aff=&pg=prod&ref=tuffwritersterilegray&cat=pens&catstr=HOME:pens)

;D

[tmedina]

You can pre-order here defense pen (http://www.jsburlysflashlights.com/cgi-bin/ccp51//cp-app.cgi?usr=51I7472954&rnd=4717097&rrc=N&affl=&cip=70.254.228.26&act=&aff=&pg=prod&ref=tuffwritersterilegray&cat=pens&catstr=HOME:pens)

;D

:paypal:

I ordered some other stuff, including the Boker Kirdashi - feel free to hold it all together until everything arrives. ;D

-Trevor

P.S. Just because: :wolverine:

[JonSidneyB]

Thanks a bunch Trevor :D

[adriatikfan]

Jon - I have just placed an order from here in the UK for a pen and a couple of McGizmos

Best Wishes
David

[JonSidneyB]

Jon - I have just placed an order from here in the UK for a pen and a couple of McGizmos

Best Wishes
David


Thank you very much.

[heck333]

Just pre-ordered the pen... and a t-shirt as well. You can hold off on shipping til the pen arrives, if you prefer.

Greg

[Codeman]

:paypal:

[Jedi Knife]

Pre-Pal Sent!

[JonSidneyB]

bump

[echo63]

Is there still any spots left for the first run ?
Really want one of these - will order as soon as I get paid tonight
I will be ordering some other stuff too (patches, shirt, wharcom) can I get it all posted together ?

[JonSidneyB]

Yep,

There are spots still left ;D

All going out together is no problem at all.

[jryan76]

Hey Jon,

Maybe this has been covered..sorry if so...

What color of grey are these? Are they beadblasted or painted grey?

Also, do the caps fit securely on the back of the pen using it to write with? Does it fit snug like a fisher bullet pen or is it just loose?

Thanks..I'm really wanting one of these!

[echo63]

Hey Jon,

Maybe this has been covered..sorry if so...

What color of grey are these? Are they beadblasted or painted grey?

Also, do the caps fit securely on the back of the pen using it to write with? Does it fit snug like a fisher bullet pen or is it just loose?

Thanks..I'm really wanting one of these!

I believe the colour is the same as the sniper grey that the full length models are (full length model shown, the EDCF ones will be shortys)
(image from tuffwriter)
http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m150/Echo63/yhst-32151692617747_2042_518522.jpg
it is a grey milspec hard anodize,
i think the cap may be loose fitting on the back of the pen, i am not sure however, i am in the same boat as you, patiently waiting for mine to arrive

i am sure someone will be along to correct me if im wrong

[El Verbo]

Jon, what's the good word?

I am formally throwing my hat in the ring!

[davkt]

Order sent, bad forum tempting me already :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

[DemskeetSkeet]

Order sent, bad forum tempting me already :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:


Reading some of your posts and it seems you are a sucker for pens!! :lolhammer:

You aren't the only one believe me, I've had my fair share of pens but have come to love the Fine tip Zebra series pens.

You made a fine choice in purchasing one of these though!

I just haven't been able to pull the trigger yet.... :cool:

[davkt]

Yep, even though my handwriting is illedgeable to even me at times I do like a nice pen, and one that has other uses, like pda stylus all the better ;) Though I've yet to find a pen I can write well enough for others to read since Rotring stopped making their nibless fountain pen ten or fifteen years ago!

[davkt]

Yep, even though my handwriting is illedgeable to even me at times I do like a nice pen, and one that has other uses, like pda stylus all the better ;) Though I've yet to find a pen I can write well enough for others to read since Rotring stopped making their nibless fountain pen ten or fifteen years ago!


Fate smiles on me!!!! Went in a draw to get a pencil out last night and knocked somthing over the back of it so had to take all the draws out of the cupboard to retrive it, there at the bottom of the cabinet amongs an assormet of junk was a new and unused Rotring nibless fountain pen! I bought a few when I heard they had gone out of production and thought they'd all long since been used but guess this one got lost and forgotten!

[rhysman1]

I want one, but every time I click on the link it says page is unavailable >:( :shrug:

[mercurial]

;D Woohoo, pen pre-ordered! :roof:

Honestly, just came back here after a long while. See things are moving right along!

mercurial

[davkt]

I want one, but every time I click on the link it says page is unavailable >:( :shrug:

Working fine here. Here is the link to next level up in the shop to see if that helps
http://www.jsburlysflashlights.com/cgi-bin/ccp51//cp-app.cgi?usr=51I7472954&rnd=8825052&rrc=N&affl=&cip=&act=&aff=&pg=cat&ref=pens

[rhysman1]

Thanks davkt, that worked fine O0

[heck333]

Any word on a delivery date yet?

No pressure... I am just curious.

Greg

[Jedi Knife]

Any word on a delivery date yet?

No pressure... I am just curious.

Greg


Me too! :-X

[echo63]

Any word on a delivery date yet?

No pressure... I am just curious.

Greg


Me too! :-X


me three

[DemskeetSkeet]

Me too! :-X


me three


Jon won't be back for a day or two, I'm sure he'll give us an update

[JonSidneyB]

They are at the finishing place now. That should mean they will be here very soon.

[Jedi Knife]

Thanks, Jon, and welcome back! Thanks for the info and hope you are doing well.

[echo63]

Thanks for the info john
Really looking forward to getting one of these in my hands

[mercurial]

Great news! And I guess the first batch sold out, too, which is also great news! Now, to be patient and wait for the pen and a flashlight for my cigarette lighter...

mercurial

[JonSidneyB]

The first batch is not sold out yet. There are 30 of them in the first batch. 12 have been pre-ordered.

[JonSidneyB]

Here is a quote from Tuff-Writer "Give me a day or two wiggle room but I think they should be ready next Monday night. I'm pretty excited, everyone who's seen them really likes the look."

[heck333]

Does that mean that, barring any unforseen problems, we should receive the pens before April 17th?

I hope so, as I leave town on that day and was looking forward to carrying the pen through airport security...

Greg

[crossroads]

Here is a quote from Tuff-Writer "Give me a day or two wiggle room but I think they should be ready next Monday night. I'm pretty excited, everyone who's seen them really likes the look."

Awesome, can't wait to get mine. :D



Does that mean that, barring any unforseen problems, we should receive the pens before April 17th?

I hope so, as I leave town on that day and was looking forward to carrying the pen through airport security...

Greg

It'd be great if you could do that, and give us a status report on the TW. I know it probably varies from airport to airport, depending on who's checking, but it'd still be nice to have a test run on it's inconspicuousness.

[Joe Talmadge]

Tuff Writer's standard neck sheath will work with these? I imagine it's all one standard size, but figure it doesn't hurt to ask

[JonSidneyB]

It is my guess that the neck sheath will work but I have not tried it. I have actually never touched one of these products.

[smokelaw1]

OK, OK, fine...stop badgering me about the pen. I've placed my pre-order.

[davkt]

Any news?

[JonSidneyB]

Here is a quote I got via e-mail from Tuff-Writer.

"Jon,

Your pens are complete and assembled. We just ran out of cartridges and should be getting them in the next few days then your pens will ship.

No engraving (although I did make one with an "EDC Edition" engraving just to see what it would look like). They look fantastic."

[El Verbo]

Hell's yes!

[SALT]

Hell's yes!


I love your love for tactical pens

[tmedina]

Any dibs on the "EDC Edition" pen? ;D

-Trevor

[Jedi Knife]

Any dibs on the "EDC Edition" pen? ;D

-Trevor


I agree; having "EDC Edition" on it would make them even better, IMO. You know, they still have those pens...

[El Verbo]

Jon, you should make that a prize if we do a Spring Badge Drive!

And then rig it so I win.

[DB]

That "EDC Edition" pen would make a fantastic prize for a giveaway, Jon. :)

[JonSidneyB]

That "EDC Edition" pen would make a fantastic prize for a giveaway, Jon. :)


I talked to Tuff-Writer today. He said these were the nicest looking batch yet. He mentioned he liked the EDC one some much it replaced the one he was carrying. :knuppel2:

I guess that won't be available now. He thinks that his order of Fisher cartridges might arrive Friday. They are going to ship them out as soon as they put cartridges in them. There are 16 of these not spoken for yet.

I can't wait to get them in.

[JonSidneyB]

Tuff-Writer must have the ink now. They told me this morning they are shipping out Tuesday. ;D

[smokelaw1]

NICE! Thanks for the update Jon. I imagine they will ship to you, and you will ship to the end user?
Looking forward a new EDC pen!

[davkt]

Thanks for the update, getting excited!

[JonSidneyB]

NICE! Thanks for the update Jon. I imagine they will ship to you, and you will ship to the end user?
Looking forward a new EDC pen!


Yep, they will come to me then i will send them out.

Thanks everyone.

PS There are 16 of the first run still available.

[JonSidneyB]

I talked to Tuff Writer today. They confirmed that they did ship.

[JonSidneyB]

The pens arrived Saturday. I had time to get a few shipped before closing. I will get the rest out on Monday. I have 16 available for purchase left.

[Jedi Knife]

That's great news, Jon! I hope that once these start getting around word will get out about how good these are and you can sell the other 16.

[El Verbo]

PING! :paypal:

Send it to me! :gimme:

[echo63]

Great to hear john, I am really looking forward to mine (and the wharcom I ordered with it)

[smokelaw1]

Got my shipping notice, and can't wait!

I'll try to get a review out when it gets in.

[JonSidneyB]

Some of these should be arriving at their new homes by now. Any one get one yet?

All have been sent out except for two of them.

I made a horrible mistake on two of the guys orders. They ordered a couple of other items with these. I had two emergency moves in a row and lost some inventory in the process. I counted up everything and adjusted my store inventory by the count. I forget that two of the pen purchasers had Boker knives with the pens. I was going to hold those two orders until the Bokers arrived but now I think that is not right. I will send the remaining two orders then send them a second package with the Bokers in them.

[smokelaw1]

Tracking says mine should be home when I get there. I'll see if I can take some pics and post a little review after the baby goes to bed.

[kii]

Got mine today. I like it alot better than the original Tuffwriter that I bought due to the size of the new one.

[davkt]

Excitedly waiting for mine to appear on this side of the pond!

[Dizos]

Hint, hint. I would love to see a pic next to other common pens, like a Sharpie. I'm having a hard time gauging how large these things are.

[echo63]

Got my shipping confirmation last night
Mine is one with a boker in the order too

[Jedi Knife]

Hint, hint. I would love to see a pic next to other common pens, like a Sharpie. I'm having a hard time gauging how large these things are.


OK, here you go Dizos. Sorry for the overexposure:

http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/2462/img0738b.jpg (http://img14.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img0738b.jpg)

Nicely sized, I think.

[tmedina]

I'm one of the guys with a Boker - don't stress it. I've had to do an emergency move or two in the past and they ain't fun, if you'll pardon my Southern.

Good luck with the insanity.

-Trevor

[Dizos]

OK, here you go Dizos. Sorry for the overexposure:

http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/2462/img0738b.jpg (http://img14.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img0738b.jpg)

Nicely sized, I think.




That is awesome. Thank you. I agree - a nice sized pen. I need to start saving up for one.

[El Verbo]

Got mine.

Super Fast!

[DB]

Wait, is this one of the pens then? Does the pen have a wide ribbed body rather than knurling?




OK, here you go Dizos. Sorry for the overexposure:

http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/2462/img0738b.jpg (http://img14.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img0738b.jpg)

Nicely sized, I think.

[Jedi Knife]

Yep, at least mine does :) I wanted to post a more comprehensive description of it before I let the cat out of the bag but is indeed different than any of the other Tuff-writers that I've ever seen. I think our EDC Edition may be even more exclusive than I thought!

[crossroads]

Interesting... I personally would have preferred knurling, but maybe that will change once I have this in my hand.

[Rothrandir]

When I first saw the grooving instead of the knurling I was worried, but after holding it I think I may actually prefer it this way. When erm... using this pen, there are no rotational forces, so the anti rotation effect of the knurling is not needed, and I think that since the grooving is deeper than the knurls, and seems to fit the hand well, it may work better.
I have not felt the knurled version so it's hard to say, but the grooving did feel a lot better than I thought it would. It also has the side benefit of looking slightly more innocent.

I'd like to hear from someone who has both.

[smokelaw1]

I have both. I'm not sure the grooving looks much more innocent, as it does give the body a slightly "sharp" look. But, on the other hand, it does look less like something that is necessarily made to give you a good grip while, uh, exerting force through it.

I didn't get any pics, (rough night with the bambino), but I did get to use it and test it out a bit.

As a pen: Nice balance. With the cap laid aside (doesn't stack too well), it has just enough heft for me to feel like a good pen (I like heavy pens, though). The threads are smooth and fit very nicely. The cartidge is what we have come to expect of fisher. Good, utilitarian ballpoint that you can trust will work. nothing fancy, nothing you just can't wait to write with, but it does its job admirably, and does it every time...a trait I have come to appreciate more and more.

As an impact tool: Using the sharply tapered end as impact area, this is a formidable tool in the hands of someone with any skill or knowledge of using a short straight force multiplier. Into a replicated semi-soft tissue area (like the areas around shoulder blades and ribs), it actually penetrated to a scary degree. Shots into replicated ribs and forearms with force were capable of fracturing said bones. Skin over hard areas would be torn badly by the point. This is multiplied by the ability to (if desired, with well kown trade offs and benefits) place thumb on the rounded end. Bones or joints underneath could be damaged. This makes this point a serious addition to one's "carry in plain sight" self defense, but as such, must...MUST be considered a dangerous weapon,and only used if the situation calls for such an escalation of force. One must be capable of making this judgment, and be prepared for the consequences. Used as a joint manipulator or pain compliance tool, the tapered point could be extremely effective in properly trained hands.
The rounded tip, besides not being able to place thumb over the other side, is also clearly less aggressive for joint manipulation or strikes. Using a standard kubaton grip, the lack of knurling only became apparent when extremely forceful hammer fists were applied to a hardened target (bottom of a well settle heavy bag, for example). If a situation was calling for the level of force in these strikes, especially one in which I had made the call that using a self defense tool was justified, I would probably be using the tapered end.


These are just my thoughts. I am a semi-educated (in this area) layman. I have 10 years or so of martial arts training, the past 5 with weapons of various types. Take my opinion for what it's worth.

Overall: I am glad I made the purchase, and I will be carrying this pen often.

[JonSidneyB]

Can some of you try and take some good pictures of these? One suitable for a banner, another that would work for store pictures. Perhaps one for some other type of advertising?

Thanks
Jon

[smokelaw1]

Can some of you try and take some good pictures of these? One suitable for a banner, another that would work for store pictures. Perhaps one for some other type of advertising?

Thanks
Jon


I'd be happy to, Jon. Any particular backgrounds, suggestions for other items in the picture that you would like? If not, I'll just get creative. I should have the time tonight to be able to get a few uploaded and sent to you.

[JonSidneyB]

;D I would say just get creative O0

[JonSidneyB]

I wonder why only two of those have moved all week long?

[Joe Talmadge]

My plan was to wait for a couple more pics, then order one

[echo63]

I wonder why only two of those have moved all week long?

my tracking number gives me this answer on the usps site
Status: Electronic Shipping Info Received

The U.S. Postal Service was electronically notified by the shipper on April 22, 2009 to expect your package for mailing. This does not indicate receipt by the USPS or the actual mailing date. Delivery status information will be provided if / when available. Information, if available, is updated every evening. Please check again later.

although, that showed till about a day before my last parcel from the US arrived, so im not too worried yet.
still cant wait to get it though

[davkt]

Same here
Though I suspect it has more to do with the next to useless USPS tracking system than anything else as I've had parcels delivered in the UK that still showed that on the tracking page! On some occasions the sender has managed to get sense out of USPS. Usually takes around a week for international priority packages to get here so not worried, just excited!
Cheers
David




my tracking number gives me this answer on the usps site
Status: Electronic Shipping Info Received

The U.S. Postal Service was electronically notified by the shipper on April 22, 2009 to expect your package for mailing. This does not indicate receipt by the USPS or the actual mailing date. Delivery status information will be provided if / when available. Information, if available, is updated every evening. Please check again later.

although, that showed till about a day before my last parcel from the US arrived, so im not too worried yet.
still cant wait to get it though

[tmedina]

I'm pretty sure my pen is sitting in my PO Box - I'm going to make a run this morning and check.

I was going to grope it last night, but I got side-tracked with a new troop.

-Trevor

[JonSidneyB]

USPS frequently does not scan a package when you turn them over to them. It is more of a delivery confirmation than a tracking system. I have had many packages not show anything until after the customer has it.

[tmedina]

And my tactical nerd bling is complete! ;D

I love this thing - the smooth gray threw me for a bit, but the more I fond...err...handle the pen, the more I like it.

The only changes I made - applied silicone gel to the threads and swapped a Fisher fine-tip cartridge.

-Trevor

[JonSidneyB]

Anyone take any pictures they can post?

[tmedina]

Everyone's a critic. ;D

http://i694.photobucket.com/albums/vv307/stark_000/pen1.jpg
http://i694.photobucket.com/albums/vv307/stark_000/pen4.jpg
http://i694.photobucket.com/albums/vv307/stark_000/pen5.jpg

-Trevor

Edit 2: Sorry for the blur - all I have is a cheap camera and I don't have any photo editing tools worth a darn anymore.

[JonSidneyB]

Can you get one with the pen all by itself? :)

[echo63]

Jon, I will grab some pics when mine arrives, waiting anxiously by the mailbox :)

[misterdirk]

Got mine 2 days ago, it arrived promptly about 3 days after I placed my order. First impression, it's a tight strong product that looks innocuous enough that I can use it comfortably in a business environment. I probably wouldn't choose it as my number one writing implement, but I'm real picky in that department. I was an illustrator for many years. But I'll happily use it as a pen for workaday writing, and keep it on hand for defense. I'm looking forward to getting a finer version of the Fisher cartridge.
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[davkt]

Have any made it across the atlantic yet? Stil getting the same on the USPS tracking site but no surprise there but slightly more worrying is the fact the package doesn't show up on the parcelforce.co.uk tracking site and international priority mail always does when it arrives in the UK (often that is the first time any tracking system spots it!).
Just a bit concerned as a week to 10 days is normally how long delivery takes, not the time it takes to make it to the UK!

[JonSidneyB]

If it does not show up in a couple of days I will replace it.

[davkt]

Thanks Jon, I'll keep you posted. As I said the UK end of the tracking system is usually perfectly reliable when a package reaches these shores!
Cheers
David

[heck333]

I have to say that I am impressed with this pen. The wide ribbing is a pleasant surprise. It is comfortable in the hand and gives a decent gripping surface. The heft and size are perfect for EDC, and it writes well too!

Here are a couple poor quality pics.

http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd29/heck333/1241012880.jpg

http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd29/heck333/1241012881.jpg

Greg

[adriatikfan]

Still not received mine here in the UK either nor am I getting any sense out of 'Track & Confirm' - just a little worried as packages from the US don't normally take this long to get here?

Anyone else in the UK received their pen yet?

Best Wishes
David

[Valolammas]

Don't know about UK, but when I've ordered things from Jon, the packages have pretty consistently taken two weeks to arrive. When the tracking works, it first shows the package waiting for international dispatch at the airport for the first week and after that it takes the week that USPS usually takes. And it may take a day or few to make it through the customs. So don't despair yet.

Did I mention that mine is in the mail too?

[JonSidneyB]

I am close to the center of the USA. it usually take three days for something to reach the east coast alone. I am not really sure how long it takes to get to the UK from here but probably 10 percent of the packages I send is to the UK and they have all been arriving. One package to Europe didn't make it, that was to the Netherlands. I will replace packages that do not arrive.

[davkt]

Don't know about UK, but when I've ordered things from Jon, the packages have pretty consistently taken two weeks to arrive. When the tracking works, it first shows the package waiting for international dispatch at the airport for the first week and after that it takes the week that USPS usually takes. And it may take a day or few to make it through the customs. So don't despair yet.

Did I mention that mine is in the mail too?


Usually a week to 10 days for the international priority stuff and for about half that time it will show on the parcelforce website even if it is waiting to clear customs etc.
Not despairing yet, maybe all a little slower than normal for some reason.
Cheers
David

[crossroads]

Received my pen today. :roof: A little lighter and longer (the full size one must be huge) than I expected, but a few light tests on my crappy desk assure me it'll work if I (hopefully not) ever need to use it. Fortunately, the grooving instead of knurling doesn't bother me whatsoever ergonomically, though I do agree with smokelaw1 that it doesn't really help it look more innocent. I was also pretty intrigued with the container that held the pen for some reason...

[Joe Talmadge]

Dang this thing looks good! With the color and ridges instead of gnurling, it looks more classy than tactical. If any of you were like me and waiting for the first reviews to roll out, I'd advise you not to wait any longer.

Jon, probably too early to ask, but now I'm in the market for a full-sized version. I'd rather have a ridged version than a gnurled version ... are you considering a full sized ridged version at all? I'll wait for an EDCF version if you are.

[JonSidneyB]

adriatikfan and davkt,

Have your pens arrived yet. I will send replacements out if they have not. Will send PM

If they did not arrive I think I might know what happened. It is a Little unusual to have more than one package not arrive with the same contents. The container these pens come in let it be known this is a tactical pen. I wonder if it has trouble with customs because of this. I might start wrapping the packages going to countries that discourage self defense items.

[adriatikfan]

Jon - you have a PM from me.

Best Wishes
David

[JonSidneyB]

Another will be sent

[echo63]

mine arrived today, the tube it arrived in is really cool, kinda surprised me that a nice tough pen, comes in a really solid container.
took it straight out to take pics, then clipped it to my shirt

its really well built, the threads are really nice and smooth, and it feels really nice in the hand

here are some pics (lots of pics) - Jon, feel free to use these on your site

http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m150/Echo63/JBCP5468.jpg
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http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m150/Echo63/JBCP5486.jpg

[DB]

Great photos!

[mercurial]

Overall, I am very happy with it. The pen will never be my first go-to pen, as I like a rounder and more soft-textured feel for the grip. Here the grip is stable, but coarse, with the ridges under your thumb and forefinger. In the hand, it is very comfortable and easy to hold. Looks nice in a shirt pocket or placket, but not light (as expected).
Thanks Jon!
mercurial

[davkt]

Hi Jon,
Sorry hadn't checked this thread since the weekend. Just to confirm no sign of mine yet, and thanks for shipping another out as paypal have just confirmed. Tactical pen shouldn't have affected customs but then as you may well have seen on Britishblades one particular customs station has taken to siezing a load of lock knives that appear on the shelves of many UK sporting goods stores without raising a single eyebrow as to their legality so anything is possible!



adriatikfan and davkt,

Have your pens arrived yet. I will send replacements out if they have not. Will send PM

If they did not arrive I think I might know what happened. It is a Little unusual to have more than one package not arrive with the same contents. The container these pens come in let it be known this is a tactical pen. I wonder if it has trouble with customs because of this. I might start wrapping the packages going to countries that discourage self defense items.

[JonSidneyB]

Why are these things not moving at all? Hmmmm

[echo63]

Jon, i PMed you the other day regarding the Wharcom that i ordered with my pen, could you please reply to it ?

thanks

Echo

[JonSidneyB]

replied ;D

[davkt]

Second time lucky! The replacement you posted out has arrived safe and sound thanks. It seems a fantastic pen at fist look.

[davkt]

Well the pen has found a home amongst the assorted edc that lives in my trousers pockets!
The ridges are way more comfortable than they look on the photos and to my eye lend a degree of elegance to the pen. Its certainly a nice pen to write with and does a fine job as a PDA stylus.
Cheers
David




Second time lucky! The replacement you posted out has arrived safe and sound thanks. It seems a fantastic pen at fist look.

[echo63]

I don't think I have left the house without this on me since I got it
My new favorite pen
I have changed the refill for a fine blue, and keep the original black as a spare (I just prefer the blue)
It feels great to write with, and a few people at work have commented on it

[Joe Talmadge]

I'm not a fan of Fisher refills in general, I realize they let me pretend to be an astronaut but I don't love the writing experience. That said, after changing to a fine blue I'm happy. And as a pen, this one is both classier looking than any of the other "tactical pens" I have, and balances better in writing. It's a constant companion for me as well.

[Valolammas]

So far I've only carried mine at work, so it's not a true EDC item for me, but I really like it. I think the ridges look odd, but it has proper knurling in the grip area where it counts. Very good grip and balance.

[JonSidneyB]

When this started out we were offered a color that was going to be only sold on this forum. To my surprise when I got the pens the design was a little different that meant that we could all types of colors and still be different than TuffWriters current line.

Unfortunately this run has not been a success. The forum store still has to pay the invoice on these. We are stuck in a tough spot. I am stuck making some hard choices. The invoice has to be eventually paid. If I pay the invoice today there is nothing left to make the server payment on June 25th. I can try and buy other inventory and gamble that it can sell out by the 25th and the margin from it hopefully can allow us to cover both the invoice and the forum payment. While I don't want anyone to get one that is not interested in this this was done to try and create cash flow to help pay for the forum but instead it has become a liability. If anyone is interested in these we could use the sales to try and get this invoice paid.

[Joe Talmadge]

That's a huge bummer. And a surprise, given all the interest in self defense pens in the pen subforum. I can only imagine it's the price. This pen is my top choice overall, over any other I've owned or handled (IMO way better designed than the Hinderer, Benchmade, etc), it should be selling well to all those folks participating in those long threads.

[Chief-Yeah]

if you have any left I'll take one off your hands,I tried going through the store but it says "out of stock"