FS: Smokejumper/ Rigger belt- custom belt - UPDATED FOR COBRA RIGGERS BELTS

[chute43]

This post was recently updated to repair links and update photos.

I recently updated this post so there is a lot of stuff that might have ended up being redundant, sorry but I was hoping to clear up some issues and help EDCers make a decisions on their best belt decisions.

Any questions, please feel free to email me (chute43@yahoo.com) or PM me here.

thank you

These are Brand New Black Nylon Web Belts made from military grade parachute harness webbing, sometimes referred to as a Smokejumper Belt. It is commonly worn by wildland firefighting crews from Hotshot, Helitack, to Engine Crews.

At times this belts have been hard to come across. It is similar to military rigger belts but with some improvement in comfort and design. The buckle holds strong and secure but quickly adjust when the time calls for it. Ruffian packs sell it for 24.95 but mine look better, his come with a weird patch. I have seen similar belt sell for over $30.00, Duluth trading company sells them for 24.95

The Webbing is rated at 6000lbs and the "V" ring Buckle is rated to 2500lbs. The webbing is military spec parachute harness webbing, which is why it has the contrasting color on its edge.

The belt is 50" long from buckle to tail, cut off what you don't need with a hot knife, or a razor knife and then seal the nylon back with a lighter. The belt is 1 3/4" wide.

I am a career firefighter and paramedic, I currently have a pair on my urban interface wildland pants and one on my civilian pants for everyday wear. I sew these myself now so that I can control the quality of each belt.

50" long x 1 3/4" wide

I accept paypal, they are 15.00 plus 4.00 to ship, and they ship out USPS first class. Multiple belts ship out USPS Priority Mail, for 5.25. I can put five belts in one Priority Mail envelope.

Email (chute43@yahoo.com) me what color belt and buckle combination you want, I will email you a paypal invoice. Just remember to include that you are a edc member and your screen so that I can quote you the lower price.

International shipping, I do my best to offer the lowest international shipping I can, just have patience cause those usually require a trip to the post office.

I have perfect feedback on ebay (offpistekw is my ebay name) and on amazon as well.

if you have any questions please email me here of my personal email at chute43@yahoo.com

http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff151/chute43/edc/Belts/100_1756-1.jpg
#1-Black with Black Buckle
#2-Black with Silver Buckle
#3-Navy Blue with Silver Buckle
#4-Navy Blue with Black Buckle
#5-Sage Green with Black Buckle
#6-OD Green with Black Buckle
#7-Dark Brown with Black Buckle
#8-Dark Brown with Silver Buckle
#9-Coyote Brown with Black Buckle
#10-Khaki (sand) with Black Buckle
#11-Foliage Green with Black Buckle

As my hobby/business has grown I have expanded the number of belts that I build. More from the wildland fire community , The airlock or airloc belt. As the story goes USFS smokejumpers would remove the seatbelts from their jump planes, and fashion belts from them. These are pretty rare. They aren’t really good for CCW but very unique , durable.

30.00 plus 4.00 to ship. These will require an actual measurement of your waist line at the level you wear your pants, as always please don’t rely on a pants sizing
contact me for a photo


Next in my line up came my V ring Shooter’s belt which is basically a smokejumper of big steroids, nice and stiff for CCW but still wearable all day. These have a three layer design sewn and laminating together. I use a total of 5 total passes with #138 nylon bonded thread. Plus these have a Velcro that secures the free end. They have four inches of adjustment as well.

These are 30.00 plus shipping 5.00 for US mail shipping
From top to bottom
Black with silver buckle
Foliage green with black buckle
Coyote Brown with black buckle
Navy Blue with black buckle
OD Green with black buckle
All black with black buckle
Dark brown with black buckle(currently discontinued color though)

http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff151/chute43/V%20ring%20Shooter/100_1824-1.jpg

Next at some request from EDCers is the Cobra Gun belt, same three layer sewn/laminated design suitable for CCW. The buckles are a little big and generally require them to be threaded like a normal riggers belt, but once in your pants you can utilize the click portion. The cobra buckle weighs 4 ounces has a very smooth action and 2500lb rating.

$50.00 plus 5.00 to ship(priority mail)

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Due to more requests came the Cobra Riggers belt.
60.00 plus 5.00 to ship priority mail

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Now in the line up comes from something for the EDCers pooch, using the one inch cobra buckle, utilizing heavy duty welded D ring hardware. These like most of my stuff is built to last.

New photos coming soon here


I usually have about a one week turn around times on most of the custom belts, while the smokejumpers are usually a 24 to 48 before they ship.

[parnass]

chute43,

Please update your profile with your country location to conform to B+S+T forum rules. Good luck with the sale.

Thanks,
Bob
EDC Forum administrator
:pt:

[chute43]

New color chart updated Sept 1st 2010

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More cobra belt photos

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[souptree]

Thank you for your service as a firefighter. O0 Be safe.

[flashlight]

I'll take one if you can ship to Singapore by USPS First Class international.

[chute43]

I have to run to the post office today, let me find out how much and I'll get back to you, sound good.

kw

[chute43]

I'll take one if you can ship to Singapore by USPS First Class international.


I emailed you the total and my paypal account name. thank you for the interest

kary

[justmyluck]

Chute43,

Looking at the pictures I have a question. Are these held in place with velcro like the instructors belts, or is it held by friction coming under and around the post and then under the edge of the buckle.

If these are "not" velcro, I may be interested. From your email, I'm assuming you have another to sell (i.e. this is not just a one off)?

Thanks!

Eric

[chute43]

These are not like the instructors belts , that are not intended for attaching to a rope work. Smokejumpers at the jumper bases would sew these in their spare time, using parts of parachute buckles and I have heard some used the seat belts out of an older model DC aircraft, from the way the story has been told to me. For years you could only get these from guys who sewed their own. My old room mate who is a captain on a Helitack crew contracts with a company to sew them for him. Basically they are just a belt intended to hold your pants up. And there is no Velcro but there is a belt loop. I have been using a pair on my civilian everyday pants as well as my personal wildland fire gear at work. And yes I do have a couple.

kary

[justmyluck]

Kary,

If shipping on 2 will still be $4, then I'll take 2. Let me know.

Thanks!

Eric

[chute43]

Shipping on two is actually five dollars cause I have to send them priorty mail because they are too heavy for first class with two in the package, I know cause I just shipped two to another guy in WA. If five dollars for shipping is okay with you, then you can paypal me the 35.00 and I will ship them out tomorrow.

paypal account name is chute43@yahoo.com

kary

[justmyluck]

Shipping on two is actually five dollars cause I have to send them priorty mail because they are too heavy for first class with two in the package, I know cause I just shipped two to another guy in WA. If five dollars for shipping is okay with you, then you can paypal me the 35.00 and I will ship them out tomorrow.

paypal account name is chute43@yahoo.com

kary


$5 shipping sounds perfectly reasonable!

:paypal:

Thanks a lot for offering these.

Eric

[flashlight]

I emailed you the total and my paypal account name. thank you for the interest

kary


Hi Kary,

Got your email. Some enquiries sent in reply.

Thanks,
Cyril

[nightgaunt]

Hello,

Good to see a fellow wildland guy! Did it for several years and loved every minute of it! (well, maybe not every minute...)

A quick question: how stiff is the webbing used?

Thanks and take care!

[chute43]

I have described these belts as the right combination of stiff ness(width) and pliablity(length wise) someone else asked me if I had a problem with the belt rolling over in the back and lately I have been wearing my on my civillian pants everyday and it has been super comfortable. I am actually a city firefighter but our city is surrounded by urban interface areas. And those damn pants are horrible, like 2 or 3 layers of nomex and once they get a little wet they droop. So I remember the helitack guys in yosemite wearing these and I have a friend who is jumper at the base in Redding. So I found a guy who make us some , so my crew got some and then the rest I am selling. I bulked my order with my old roommate who is a captain on a helicopter, that is why they are fairly cheap. Hope I answered your question, like I said flexible length wise and stiff width wise.

take care

kary

[flashlight]

I had the same question too. Excellent! Thanks. Can't wait to get mine. :)



I have described these belts as the right combination of stiff ness(width) and pliablity(length wise) someone else asked me if I had a problem with the belt rolling over in the back and lately I have been wearing my on my civillian pants everyday and it has been super comfortable. I am actually a city firefighter but our city is surrounded by urban interface areas. And those damn pants are horrible, like 2 or 3 layers of nomex and once they get a little wet they droop. So I remember the helitack guys in yosemite wearing these and I have a friend who is jumper at the base in Redding. So I found a guy who make us some , so my crew got some and then the rest I am selling. I bulked my order with my old roommate who is a captain on a helicopter, that is why they are fairly cheap. Hope I answered your question, like I said flexible length wise and stiff width wise.

take care

kary

[justmyluck]

Kary,

Got mine yesterday...they look great! Again, really appreciate your doing this sale. I've always liked the style of these (and instructors belts) but just never been willing to spend $35 to get one! Ex-firefighter here myself as well, put in 4-5 years as a volunteer in Salisbury, MD before moving. Hats off to you guys still on the line.

Have a great weekend!

Eric

[chute43]

I am glad you, like it. I also have never understood the price of the "instructor's" belts. I teach confined space and technical rescue for the local college as part of the fire tech program and if you need something to clip into, you should just be wearing a harness if my opinion.

but on the positive note, I am glad you like it. I am going to sell another round cause we some more guys at my station wanting them. So for everyone who emailed me about more, give me about a week and then I will have more coming in.

enjoy your belt

kary

[chute43]

Anyone who has emailed me about more belts, just letting you know I got more in. With all the fires buring in California, I sold everything I had. email or PM me for details

kary

[stockae92]

so the latest batch are all gone?

when's the next batch?

[chute43]

No I got a batch sitting on my floor right now. Just black on black again, the OD ones will be in the next order, maybe another week if I don't get sent out of town to help with the fires in the mountains, we are on standby right now

kary

[chute43]

Bump for an update, I have one more sage and black belt left, same price 15.00 and 4.00 to ship, should be getting OD in a week and a half, and ofcourse I still have black belts. Just email me for more details.

http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff151/chute43/edc/100_1061.jpg

[chute43]

Just wanted to update everyone, I have more belts coming in today, black with black buckle, sage with black buckle and OD with black buckle. As a firefighter in california , I have hardly been home in the last week, plus I have been getting more and more request. At the request to some emails I ordered the OD green belts. I will post more pictures when the shipment arrives.

thank you

kary

[chute43]

I was gone a bunch over the summer, even though I am a city firefighter paramedic, I hold qualifications as a helicopter crewmember, so I with all the lightning fire in northern california. I spent my summer bumping from airbase to airbase. So anyone who emailed me, sorry. I recently stocked up, and I sell them for a little more over on ebay but for the edc people I still sell them for 15.00 plus 4.00 shipping with USPS first class shipping, multiple belt orders up to five belts shipping is 5.50 for usps priority mail shipping. Just email me and we can work out the transaction details. Once you know what you want, I can email you a paypal invoice. I can do overseas shipping but it will just take me a couple of more steps and a day or two.

Some people have asked me about the contrasting thread on the edges of these belts, these are made from military grade parachute harness webbbing and the contrasting thread is used to give you a visual reference incase the webbing is overloaded. The webbing is rated at 6500lbs and the belt buckle is all metal and rated at 2500lbs.


chute43@yahoo.com

Black with black buckle
http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff151/chute43/edc/5fab_1.jpg

Blue with black buckle
http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff151/chute43/edc/50a3_1.jpg

Brown with black buckle
http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff151/chute43/edc/7140_1.jpg

OD green with black buckle
http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff151/chute43/edc/c776_1.jpg

Sage green with black buckle
http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff151/chute43/edc/6cfa_1.jpg

Black with silver buckle
http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff151/chute43/edc/f289_1.jpg

[mstoffo]

Got any brown with black buckles in ?
let me know and I will paypal asap.

[LZ]

Hey Bro,

Can you give me a rough idea of cost for shipping 2-3 belts to Canada?

I want;
Black/Black
OD/Black
If available I'd take a Brown/Silver buckle....not too keen on Brown and Black together....

Cheers!

[karlito]

Is the pic of the OD green with black buckle a true color rendition? Or a lighting issue? The OD looks almost khaki/tan and the black buckle a satin metal. Thanks

[chute43]

Got any brown with black buckles in ?
let me know and I will paypal asap.




I have some coming in right now, I had a group of park rangers clean me out. I will save your email address if you want them paypal you the invoice when it coming in, will be a total of 19.00 sorry about the slight delay. My guy who sews these for me is pretty quick



Hey Bro,

Can you give me a rough idea of cost for shipping 2-3 belts to Canada?

I want;
Black/Black
OD/Black
If available I'd take a Brown/Silver buckle....not too keen on Brown and Black together....

Cheers!


LZ I emailed you and we have spoken, your custom belt should be here in the same time frame, thank you



Is the pic of the OD green with black buckle a true color rendition? Or a lighting issue? The OD looks almost khaki/tan and the black buckle a satin metal. Thanks


I shot most of the photos indoors except that one, which was in the heat of the hot california sun, so it made the webbing and buckle appear to be a little washed out. The buckles is the same as the rest if that puts it in prespective. The webbing is darker than it appears. Sorry for the confusion

thank you

I always either have all my color belts in stock or only with a slight delayl

kary

[jojobos]

I would like to get two of them. Blk/Blk and Blk/Silver. Thank you.

[mstoffo]

Yeah, Im a park ranger also and thats why the brown black combo is soo nice. Not my personal color choice but whatever.
Please set me up with one and paypal invoice me when your shipment comes in.

Thanks,
Matt

[chute43]

I have it written down and the shipment should be here in a week. I will send you, your invoice when they come in. The brown belts looks pretty good for casual wear in jeans, but you shouldnt really take fashion advice from me since all my clothes are carhartts.

thank you
kary

[chute43]

I would like to get two of them. Blk/Blk and Blk/Silver. Thank you.


Your belts are packaged up and will be on their way in the morning.

thank you

kary

[chute43]

Just a quick note, as many know I sell these cheaper to edc members. So when you email me please remind me you are a edc member and include your screen name. So that I don't misquote you a price. Still have plenty of belts for the most part but I have a huge shipment coming in at the end of this week or beginning of the next week. As fire season came to an end my sales kind of slowed down. But now sales really picked up.

Incase anyone wonders about some of the belt color combination. It took me and my old roommate who is a captain on a helitack crew to find someone that had the parts and someone to sew them, plus for a reasonable price. He had the idea of using belt color to show rank amongst his wildland crew. Since I operate as a paramedic for medevac mission of large campaign fire, like we had this summer, I got the blue belts- blue for EMS. So in a crowd, guys can figure out who the medic is (aka whos got the bandaids). The idea hasn't really taken off but maybe in time. The other combinations were just based on request from buyers. The firefighter websites sell much cheaper versions for twice the price.

thank you

kary

[LZ]

Thanks for the info!

I'm really looking forward to the three I ordered....they look like good sturdy belts for all kinds of activities....

[chute43]

Already the man in the big brown truck(UPS) brought me a big box today filled with belts for all the good boys and girls. So all colors are in.

thank you for everyones patience

kary welch

[El Verbo]

PM sent.

[chute43]

PM sent.


I got your belt ready and it is waiting on you

kary

[deeker]

I received mine and I am quite happy with it.

Thanks for the product, Kary.
O0

[chute43]

I received mine and I am quite happy with it.

Thanks for the product, Kary.
O0


Glad you like it. I take great pride people using my belts around the world and locally

I am fully restocked on belts , incase anyone was wondering

kary

[El Verbo]

I forgot to check the mail at work before I left for the long weekend! >:(

I guess I'll just use this here rope and make myself a knot to hold up my overalls for this here three day weekend. :idiot2:

[chute43]

No big deal, I am pretty stocked up for a little while unless the guys in the divers in the north sea hit me up again. Just let email me when it goes in the mail so I can have an idea. I sat your belt aside a while back.

thank you

kary

[El Verbo]

Chute, it was my flub. As per the tracking the number you provided it was delivered. Delivered on time as promised! I just forgot it. I can't wait to see the finished product.

[chute43]

Chute, it was my flub. As per the tracking the number you provided it was delivered. Delivered on time as promised! I just forgot it. I can't wait to see the finished product.


You got me, I keep a hand written list of who wants want and what has shipped at home and I am currently at work. I also misread your post, I thought you said "I forget the check in the mail." I knew I had some incoming checks this week. I think I needed more coffee. I hope you like our belt.

thank you for your business

kary

[nightgaunt]

Gotta get me one of these! EMail sent for black/black. THANKS!

[chute43]

Gotta get me one of these! EMail sent for black/black. THANKS!


Paypal invoice sent, thank you for the interest, sorry if there was a delay my email filtered your email incorrectly.

kary

[chute43]

Just FYI, I have listened to the request of everyone that emailed me asking for bigger belts, so I now have black on black belts in 70 inches, same professional construction just more webbing these are a little more expensive, but at 18.00 they are still a steal compared to the ones sold by the Duluth trading company.

kary

[El Verbo]

Chute, I gots me belts ahoy! It rocks. Thanks for the excellent communication and transaction.

EDCForum, buy this belt. You'll save loads of cash.

"I am El Verbo and I approve this message."

[chute43]

thank you , I am glad you like them, I take great pride in doing my best to provide good customer service and satisfaction. I started selling these belts cause the only way for me to get one was to have one custom made for me. So I had to order a bulk order from a professional sewing shop. I believe in my belts and I personally wear one everyday in my jeans and when I am on the fireline.

My buddies helitack crew in northern cal, they wear different colors to show rank, which is why I had the blue ones made, since I am a paramedic and frequently assigned to different helitack crews on details. It is my buddies concept of using the belt color to show position and rank. His crew all wears the same color helmet since they are helitack.

thank you

kary

[mstoffo]

Got my belt, it arrived a few days ago but I was out of town. Good service, great product and the price is right !

Thanks !

[LZ]

My 3 belts showed up today - they are awesome!! Thanks so much for the super quality belts :)

Feedback inbound.....

[chute43]

My 3 belts showed up today - they are awesome!! Thanks so much for the super quality belts :)

Feedback inbound.....


I am glad you like them.

I still have plenty in stock and I still give the edc discount.

kary

[ackbar]

My 3 belts showed up today - they are awesome!! Thanks so much for the super quality belts :)

Feedback inbound.....


Damn!! 3 weeks to make it up to the great white north. I can't wait to get mine.

Sometimes I REALLY HATE CUSTOMS!

[El Verbo]

The Mounties are probably trying them on, too! I bet chutes gets a request for a bulk order of red!

[chute43]

I can do red, you send them my way and I will hook them up.

I was trying to work a deal with some entire fire crew that wanted "yellow", but they kinda had some strange circumstances, so the deal didn't work out. I expect to be quite busy before and during next years fire season.

kary

[marcoc]

Hi,

I'll take two black on black. Please PM your PP addy and total amount. Zip 22311. Thanks.

Marco

[chute43]

Thank you for the payment Marco, Your belts will be in the mail before morning.

thank you hope you enjoy them

kary

[marcoc]

Got the belts.....will get the chance to "show them off" at the station this saturday...will let you know if they generate interest. Me....I like 'em! Thanks again.

Marco

[TAMUJeep]

E-mail sent, paypal sent!

[chute43]

Belt is packaged up and I will drop it in the mail tomorrow morning, I left feedback for you already. Thank you again for the purchase.

thank you

kary

[El Verbo]

Received the blacl on black as promised! Thanks again!

Folks, I PM'd chutes late in the evening and within the hour it was packed and paid for. Received the electronic tracking number before bed and two days later it was in my mailbox!

[SALT]

Email sent!

[chute43]

Paypal invoice sent. I sent it to the same email account you emailed me from, hope that is okay. If not let me know and I can cancel it and send the invoice to an alternative account. Other than that thank you for your interest and ofcourse thank you to El Verbo for his kind words. I do my best to get invoices out pretty quick, and ship out packages within 24 hours. I am a career firefighter/paramedic so with our schedules I am home enough. I print my shipping at home and I check my email religiously, thanks to my AT and T tilt phone.

so thank you to everyone for your continued interest in these (my) belts.

kary

[Itamimasu]

E-mail sent.
In the market for a belt.
Just in time. :roof:

[SALT]

:paypal:

[chute43]

SALT your belt is going in the mail right now and Itamimasu paypal invoice sent, thank you both for your interst and purchases.

kary

[Itamimasu]

Chute, I must have mistyped my email addy or some such nonsense. :dummy:
I haven't received an invoice, or email or anything.

[SALT]

the belt arrived today! Very fast. A better review tomorrow

[TAMUJeep]

Belt arrived today...very nice belt. Very fast shipping!

[chute43]

Chute, I must have mistyped my email addy or some such nonsense. :dummy:
I haven't received an invoice, or email or anything.


It was most likely my mistake, I was using phone for email and the government computers at work to send the paypal. I might have screwed something up in the process. I can't check my personal email at work. So I had to make do, I just resent it. Sorry about that.

I am glad everyone has received their belts and liked them.

thank you for your purchases

kary

[Itamimasu]

No Prob, don't sweat it.
No hurry.

[chute43]

No Prob, don't sweat it.
No hurry.


Your belt is on its way, dropped it in the mail this morning.

thank you

kary

[RaceBannonLIVES!]

email sent for two belts.

[RaceBannonLIVES!]

:paypal: :ty:

[Itamimasu]

Got my belt yesterday, and it's awesome. :clap:
Shipped super fast.
Thanks Chute43

[RaceBannonLIVES!]

my belts arrived Friday while I was out of town. very nice. Thanks, Kary. :)

[judgecrandall]

Any chance of a 1.5 inch belt?

[chute43]

Nope sorry, the reason being my belts are only made from a specific grade parachute harness webbing. And I can only get these buckles for 1.75", they are out there in 1.5" but I just cant find a supplier. Duluth tradings belt made out of 1.5 but theres are around 25.00 before shipping. We spec-ed these out based on the original designed used by both military parachute riggers and smokejumper firefighters built on there on. I have a friend at the Redding California Smokejumper Base and he helped me a fair amount in making sure we were using the correct equipment. Most smokejumpers now wear a belt called the airlocke belt which is made out of an aircraft seat belt buckle , they are a bit pricey though. My price on the buckle pieces alone was 30.00.
The problem with using the "other" grade webbing is it gets slick and loosing some of its friction with time. My personal belts has survivied several large wildland fires and a busy season on the helicopter.
Unless my belt wont fit into your pants, I am sure you will be quite happy with it, and you dont notice its width. I also thought it sounded kinda wide when I was working on the parts.

thank you for your interest.

kary

[El Verbo]

Most smokejumpers now wear a belt called the airlocke belt which is made out of an aircraft seat belt buckle , they are a bit pricey though. My price on the buckle pieces alone was 30.00.

kary


Chutes,

Any chance of a limited run of those belts?

The D

[lamepro]

mabye im just not thinking...... but how exactly does the buckle work?

[chute43]

This is the belt. I just couldnt get the parts cheap enough, for what my cost was going to be for just the buckle is what he is charging. I have one of his "man purse" that we use to keep our helicopter weight cheat sheets in, and the quality is great.

The buckle works similar to a seat belt buckle. Just not exactly sure. I had to make phone calls to the aircraft parts manufacturer to get the part numbers. And we still couldnt get them at a good price. I didnt like them cause they are a somewhat fixed length that is time consuming to adjust. I like the older style smokejumper belt so if I change which pair pants I am using I dont have to worry about my backside hanging out. I can just crank down my belt a little more.
But this guy is from redding and he makes a bunch of paint ball equipment and some stuff for wildland firefighters. I was pretty impressed by his quality. but I havent really look closely at the belts before. Most of these I have seen have been homemade by other firefighters.

Air Lock belt at Top Stitch (http://topstitch.net/store/product_info.php?cPath=70&products_id=77&osCsid=a0ecb4fd8eb9ee0ad69918fe7210beb7)

kary

this link alone is fairly secretive cause no one tells anyone where to get them at. I am sure he would appreciate the business though.

[chute43]

I have a new belt / buckle combination inbound this week. I had received several request for the brown with a silver buckle. So I faxed the spec in last week, so they should be at my door soon. Just letting everyone know, pictures will be posted ASAP

kary

[El Verbo]

Count me in!

[chute43]

Someone recently questioned the quality of sewing because I don't have a picture of the sewing in my photos so incase there is any question in the future in this forum.

here is the stitching on the buckle.
http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff151/chute43/edc/100_1281.jpg

[wmcamp0]

Kary,
Belt arrived today, outstanding quality! everyone needs 3 or 4 of them ;)

[chute43]

Glad you like it. I have to say they are great belts, good price and super durable. My personal belt shows no sign of wear, and I have been wearing it for over 9 months straight.

thank you for your purchase

kary

[spydercofanatic]

I need a belt please sir LOL A black with silver buckle ya still got one?

[chute43]

It will on its way in the morning. Thank you for a smooth transaction.

kary

[murphquake]

All,
Last night I got my belt from Kary and I'm exremely pleased. I got black on black and am planning on getting another. The buckle is very heavy duty, but not as ridiculous as some buckles I've seen, wouldn't feel too good to get smacked with though =-) The webbing is very nice, good deep black color, not too shiny, but nice and smooth, there are tracers on each end of the webbing, look yellow or off white, I think they add a nice touch to the belt. I'm wearing it right now and it feels good. I think anyone would be pleased with this belt. Great bang for the buck. Right now it's holding my cell phone in a CountyComm PCC case, and will hold a few more things while I'm working. As if this could get any better, dealing with Kary has been exceptional. Communication has been quick and clear, shipping was very fast, and the belt was well packed in a padded envelope. It's probably because all Paramedics are awesome =-)

Kary,
Thank you very much!
-bill

[chute43]

Thank you Bill glad you like your belt, your other belt will be getting ordered up tonight.

Here is a new picture of what belts I am carrying for the rest of the uninitiated to the world of the smokejumper belt


http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff151/chute43/edc/100_1371_edited.jpg

[abarnhart]

Does anyone use one of these on standard issue jeans (e.g., Carhartts)? I've measured my Carhartt's loops a couple of times now and think that they're probably only 1.5".

[chute43]

I actually only wear the carhartt double knee jeans. I actually used the photos in my from the initial batch of belts I had made up last year. If you look closely you can make out the carhartt tag.

kary
http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff151/chute43/edc/100_1061.jpg

http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff151/chute43/edc/100_1060.jpg

[abarnhart]

:laugh: Perfect! Thanks!

[chute43]

I am not sure of the size of like a levi s belt loop or if there is a difference in belt loop size from one carhartt model to the next though.

Just wanted to throw that in to be safe, if you would like a belt let me know I just got another batch in.

thank you for your interest
kary

[Gryphon]

Say, do these guys make a version with a titanium buckle?

[chute43]

I do not do a version with the titanium buckle, my belts are built around what the actual smokejumpers built for themselves, which means using real parachute harness hardware, so my buckles are solid metal, the titanium buckles you see on the Wilderness belts are a copy of the real parachute hardware(to the best of my knowledge), since they are only 1.5 inches.
I am a career firefighter and during the summer I wear my belt everyday, my belt shows no signs of wear. If you go on my ebay page and look at my feedback you will see that I have received continued compliments about the durability of my belts.

thank you for your interest, I am sure you would be quite happy with my belts especially with the price and my edc discount.

Let me know if you want one

kary

[El Verbo]

What about Carbon Fiber?!

Your belts are so popular, I got called out at the last party we threw in our home. A buddy of mine asked in front of crowd where I got my belt.

If I had a few more drinks I would have GIVEN to him. Hopefully he placed an order if I didn't slur your EDCF handle.

[deeker]

I'm very pleased with my belt. I've had it for a few months and it's been solid. I get comments on it on occasion, all good - wondering where I got it, etc.

The only slight, very slight issue has been a small wrinkle - not even a bend or fold-over - of the belt at the middle rear belt loop. I think some extra stitching in that area would stiffen it up enough to eliminate that from happening at all. I might take it in somewhere to see ehat can be done.

I'm happy with the product, and for the price you can't go wrong.

[chute43]

I wish I knew how to work with carbon fiber. I actually want to make some kydex ems shears holsters, but so far all I have done is read about kydex.

My belt does the same thing in the back but it hasn't ever really cause me any discomfort. I wish that was an easy fix though. I try and keep the price as low as possible which means less sewing. Meaning if you save some money on my belts, then you have more money to purchase more edc goods.

And El Verbo thank you again for the promotion, I love wearing my belt everyday, not only are they unique but they actually hold my pants up.

thank you again for the support

I am working on doing some navy blue with silver buckles for the EMS guys in New York.
This is my newest combination, I had a bunch of request for these from time to time

http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff151/chute43/100_1352.jpg

[TCW 60]

If you can send a black with black buckle to Germany with Priority Mail International Flat-Rate Envelope I take one.

[chute43]

I will get you a price tomorrow when I am back at home, I am currently working a 48 hr shift, but I will get you a price.

thank you

kary

[chute43]

paypal invoice sent, thank you again

kary

[El Verbo]

Germany? Wow, Kary. Keep on truckin'!

[chute43]

So far I have sold some in Singapore, oil rig workers in the North Sea, a couple to the london fire brigade, ofcourse some to Canada. I think Germany will be my first European sale. I had a guy wanting one in Sweden but he never got back to me.

Like we have both said, they are pretty good belts, and they are cheaper(to purchase) than junk belts sold at Walmart.

kary

[El Verbo]

You can now carry the mantle of "Sold Worldwide."

Congrats!

[chute43]

I like to imagine myself, with the cast of stepbrothers, PRESTIGE WORLDWIDE, prestige worldwide

kary

thanks for the congratulations

[TCW 60]

It's good to have a seller with a quality product who sells worldwide!

[PenRx]

Another Canuck here, just paid this morning and cannot wait. :highfive:

Cheers,
Sean

[chute43]

TCW 60 - your belt went into the mail today

PenRX- your belt went into the mail today as well.

thank you guys, I appreciate the business, with your support we are taking the smokejumper belts worldwide

kary

[marcoc]

hey Kary..got my two belts today...both the green and brown are good colors for jeans...only thing is mine are 501's :)

Thanks again.

Marco

[chute43]

Do they not fit in 501's, sorry if it doesn't, like I said in another post, I really only wear Carhartt Jeans, if you haven't tried some you should, super comfortable, and ofcourse long lasting. Truely worth the money. I bought two pairs last year, and no sign of wearing out at all.Carhartt link (http://www.carhartt.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?catalogId=10101&storeId=10051&productId=32063&langId=-1&categoryId=10935)

But then again do you really want to take fashion advice from me. All my clothes come from what I call my welder collection of clothing. Even though I do go to school to be a paramedic and Firefighter, my AS degree is in structural steel and pressure vessel welding. Most of my clothes will out last me. So my smokejumper belts just kinda add to that.

On a different note, thank you again for your purchase, I am glad you like them.

kary

[chute43]

On a different not, MSM took some photos of my belt for a review in the future. I thought I would share them here. Hope that is okay with the Monkey. Thank you again the Monkey for his support of both my belts and our community.


http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff151/chute43/edc/IMG_9297.jpg
http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff151/chute43/edc/IMG_9295.jpg
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http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff151/chute43/edc/IMG_9293.jpg

[chute43]

And as a tribute to my man murphyquake, I have another new belt- The New Yorker. I know it would appeal to the EMS people, but they do look good.

http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff151/chute43/edc/a757_1.jpg

kary

[marcoc]

Hey Kary,

The belts fit the 501's the only thing is when you go do your thing, the riggers have to be unrigged!

Best

Marco

[PenRx]

:woohoo:

Got mine today, what a cool belt. I have it on right now and totally love it. The colors, dark brown with black buckle, are subdued enough to hide in plain sight on a pair of jeans or cargo's.

Great service and a great product. No problem with the belt size in the loops of my Old Navy jeans at all either.

Wicked cool belt. Might have to get another.

Cheers,
Sean

[chute43]

I am very glad it arrived safely and you like it. I wear mine everyday. Like I have said before I take great pride in knowing people like and enjoy wearing my belts.

thank you for your business

kary

[El Verbo]

Maybe it's because chute's modest about his line of belts, but MilspecMonkey posted his Wildland Belt Review (http://www.milspecmonkey.com/belts.html)!

Congrats!

[chute43]

I am smiling right now, I didn't even realize he had posted it. Thanks brother. The Monkey is a good guy

kary

[TCW 60]

So I got my belt today. Top quality and good service. Thanks for selling worldwide.

[murphquake]

Kary's right that the New Yorker appeals to EMS people. Looks great with the whole navy uniform, but is nice with other stuff. Dark enough not to draw attention but light enough to be distinctive and I like the plain metal buckle. I also have an all black one. Alternate between them. My partner saw my black one and had to have one too. We match. Charming =-) Highly recommend Kary & his belts to any interested.
-bill

[chute43]

I have been quite religious about my black with silver buckle, but after seeing your NYer belt. I changed over so I am wearing the NYer ems belt everyday with my carhartts and my khaki cargos. And you are right, dark enough not to draw attention but still unique. I was teaching the paramedic class yesterday and I had some of the students asking "where did you get that?"

I am glad you like it and I do too.

enjoy brother hope your shifts haven't been too bad lately

kary

[abarnhart]

Payment just sent... have been waiting to get one of these for a while! Looking forward to putting it to use!

[chute43]

Your belt went into the mail yesterday, thank you for a smooth transaction and quick payment.

kary

[abarnhart]

My belt just arrived and its around my waist. The quality is excellent! The webbing is lighter than I expected... this is a GOOD thing! I was thinking it would be rather stiff, like other belts I've had of this variety. However, the webbing has good flex to it and is still quite substantial.

Thanks! :highfive:

[chute43]

Glad you like it. I had been watching your transaction because USPS has been scary lately. I also believe the webbing is just the correct stiffness.

thank you for your business

kary

[Enkidu]

:mailbox:

It took 22 days (after you shipped it :lolhammer:, NOT blaming you!!!) , but TODAY I got my belt !! It's everything I hoped for :highfive:


Thanks again!


PS; Left feedback ;)

Reason for edit ; to make clear the delay had nothing to do with Chute43 ;)

[chute43]

I get worried about all of my orders I send out. Lately I have been having pretty good luck with USPS, but for awhile I was getting frustrated with a lot of my ebay sales, were going missing. It did seem strange that the netherlands took way longer than the batch I sent to Germany .

But overall I glad you got it finally and you liked it.

thank you for your business

kary

[TCW 60]

Most of the time the customs are the factor for the delay. :rant:

[Landwomble]

These are Brand New Black Nylon Web Belts made from military grade parachute harness webbing, sometimes referred to as a Smokejumper Belt. It is commonly worn by wildland firefighting crews from Hotshot, Helitack, to Engine Crews.

At times this belts have been hard to come across. It is similar to military rigger belts but with some improvement in comfort and design. The buckle holds strong and secure but quickly adjust when the time calls for it. Ruffian packs sell it for 24.95 but mine look better, his come with a weird patch. I have seen similar belt sell for over $30.00, Duluth trading company sells them for 24.95

The Webbing is rated at 6000lbs and the "V" ring Buckle is rated to 2500lbs. The webbing is military spec parachute harness webbing, which is why it has the contrasting color on its edge.

The belt is 50" long from buckle to tail, cut off what you don't need with a hot knife, or a razor knife and then seal the nylon back with a lighter. The belt is 1 3/4" wide.

I am a career firefighter and paramedic, I currently have a pair on my urban interface wildland pants and one on my civilian pants for everyday wear. As a firefighter a friend of mine purchased these for his crew, he had a over run in supply and with our wildland season already starting he asked me to unload them for him. These are professionally sewn in America.

50" long x 1 3/4" wide

I accept paypal, they are 15.00 plus 4.00 to ship, and they ship out USPS first class. Multiple belts ship out USPS Priority Mail, for 5.25. I can put five belts in one Priority Mail envelope.

Email (chute43@yahoo.com) me what color belt and buckle combination you want, I will email you a paypal invoice. Just remember to include that you are a edc member and your screen so that I can quote you the lower price.

International shipping, I do my best to offer the lowest international shipping I can, just have patience cause those usually require a trip to the post office.

I have perfect feedback on ebay (offpistekw is my ebay name) and on amazon as well.

if you have any questions please email me here of my personal email at chute43@yahoo.com

kw

Black with black buckle
http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff151/chute43/edc/5fab_1.jpg

Blue with black buckle
http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff151/chute43/edc/50a3_1.jpg

Brown with black buckle
http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff151/chute43/edc/7140_1.jpg

OD green with black buckle
http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff151/chute43/edc/c776_1.jpg

Black with silver buckle
http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff151/chute43/edc/f289_1.jpg



Hi,
These look *great*. What would a black one with silver buckle cost with shipping to the UK?

[chute43]

Your belts went in the mail today, the mail today. thank you for your interest

kary

[Landwomble]

Your belts went in the mail today, the mail today. thank you for your interest

kary


Awesome. Just looked up "smokejumper" on wikipedia. Maximum respect to people who do this for a living...!

[chute43]

I can't take credit for being a smokejumper so I hope no one thinks I am. I do frequently work as a member of helitack crews. These days most jumpers quit wearing this style belt for another extremely hard to find belt made from seat belt buckles out of a older model douglas aircraft. The belt is called an airlocke. I really don't like them because they aren't as adjustable as mine. My friend who is jumper at the Redding California base helped me find the pieces for my belts.

Hope your order makes it soon

kary

[Landwomble]

I can't take credit for being a smokejumper so I hope no one thinks I am. I do frequently work as a member of helitack crews. These days most jumpers quit wearing this style belt for another extremely hard to find belt made from seat belt buckles out of a older model douglas aircraft. The belt is called an airlocke. I really don't like them because they aren't as adjustable as mine. My friend who is jumper at the Redding California base helped me find the pieces for my belts.

Hope your order makes it soon

kary


Arrived today. They're awesome: thanks very much.

Ric

[chute43]

For the past several days of last week, I spent time searching out some coyote tan webbing for my belts. These belts will soon become a reality. I will ofcourse keep everyone on EDC posted.

kary

new photo to show the thickness of the webbing
http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff151/chute43/100_1420-1-1.jpg

[chute43]

I received a shipment today, after much hard searching and many phone calls I located some tan mil-spec parachute harness webbing. All I have to do is cut it down and get it ready to ship the my sewing guy.

kary

So tan smokejumper belts are a couple weeks away

A comparison of it and some OD

http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff151/chute43/100_1431.jpg

[chute43]

For those who need a larger belt and the black on black was a little too plain,

I recently did a customer order for some guy who then changed his mine, not from EDC so I have three XL belts

1 70" OD green with Black buckleSOLD
1-70" Brown with Black BuckleSOLD
1-70" Sage Green with Black buckleSOLD

Let me know those won't last long.

thank you

kary

But I still have plenty of belts available, in the normal color and sizes

[El Verbo]

These make great gifts! PM sent!

[chute43]

Okay the coyote tan / khaki belts have arrived, they ended up costing me more because the webbing had to be purchased in a different quantity than I normally do, so I cant do my normal 15.00 but instead these will be 16.00 each sorry. email me or PM and I will get a invoice headed out to you quickly

thank you
kary


http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff151/chute43/100_1460.jpg

[greyhound352]

PM Inbound, Thanks Chute43

[chute43]

Thank you, greyhound, PM and Invoice sent

kary

[Jedi Knife]

Kary, I just got the OD/Silver belt I ordered from you; it is superb. I just sent an inquiry for a Navy/Silver one. :email:
These belts are awesome!

[chute43]

I already packaged up your belt and it will be in the mail tomorrow morning. I am glad you like the first belt. That OD green with the silver buckle combo looked pretty cool, I am having some more built up like that.

thank you for your the business

kary

[El Verbo]

Kary, I just received the belts!

Fast as usual, but the new tan (or coyote) scheme is different. I like it. It'll match all the cargo shorts for the summer time. The black buckle stands out nice.

As for the standard brown belt, I know my buddy'll love the belt.

Thanks again for another flawless and fast transaction!

The Verb

[chute43]

The tan ended up being a little different, it is the same spec, but I bought the spool blind over the phone. With so many variation of the coyote tan/ khaki I was worried. If I bought in a roll of 10,000 ft , I could get whatever color I wanted but I think the webbing would fill up my garage pretty quick. I got lucky to find someone that had a 100 yds left over from a contract. I am still working on finding other colors, next week I am going to talk to a local guy about doing some more sewing for me.

I hope you like the color/scheme though, you know me I am to please.

thank you as always for the business
kary

[greyhound352]

Kary,

Man are these belts awesome the pictures don't due them justice. I received my belt yesterday, thanks for the fast shipping. Feedback left.

Thanks Ron

[ryanc]

These things rule... Thanks man!

[chute43]

Thank you RyanC for the good review as well.

Gear Journal (http://www.gearjournal.com/)

and thank you for the business and support

kary

[SALT]

Chute,

I have one of your OD belts and love it. I need to replace my uniform underbelt, but the belt needs to be solid black (without the yellow contrast stiching), do you have any solid black belts? A black buckle would be best, but silver you be ok.

Salt

[chute43]

I don't have any without the contrasting stitching becuase, I use a specific mil spec webbing that requires that contrast as identification. To sound a little redneck, maybe use a sharpie to color them in. I do have plenty of black with black buckle but nothing without the stitching though.

The stuff without specific identifying marks ends up being cheap, usually thin, and the webbing I use has resin mixed in to make it more durable and stiffer, and the others dont. That is why I am careful of what I buy. I almost got lurred into a killer deal today , the webbing was 1/4 the price I normally pay but I check the fine print on their specs and it was 1/2 the thickness I use.

Sorry, I am dealing with some new webbing vendors and I may see if they have some extra but who knows.

kary

[chute43]

I did a couple of test belts in new combinations:

OD green with silver buckle and Khaki with Silver buckle, these are pretty limited
I just listed them on ebay, but if you want one off ebay, just PM or email me and I can pull them off ebay

http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff151/chute43/edc/Belts/100_1481-1.jpg

http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff151/chute43/edc/Belts/100_1499.jpg

kary

[QtrHorse]

I received mine and they are great. The shipping was lightning fast. These are my new favorite non dress belts.

[chute43]

Okay after a little reasearch and some quess work. I am pretty close to having a double layer belt. These have to be sewn by hand as opposed to the single layers which are sewn by computer. The guy who is going to sew these is currently out of the county but once he returns expect to see these in several different sizes, and in the following color combinations

Black with black buckle, black with silver buckle, coyote brown with black buckle, coyote brown with silver buckle and OD green with black buckle

They are double layer up until the part that passes through the buckle.

Not sure on the price per belt yet due to unknow sewing cost but I would expect less than 25.00 each, the price difference being due to them being sewn by hand.

These photos are of the coyote brown with silver buckle(the buckle I actually cut off some military surplus and polished it, to give you an idea of the life of the buckles, that buckle is vietnam era.

Let me know what you think?

http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff151/chute43/100_1512.jpg
http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff151/chute43/100_1511.jpg

thank you and I will keep everyone updated

kary

[fishwolf]

Ill take a OD green with black buckle. :)

[fishwolf]

Got my belt today! Love it! Very comfortable. O0

[chute43]

Okay like mentioned before I have been working on releasing double layer smokejumper belts but before I have a batch made up in different sizes I am going to take orders for them to member of ZS, EDC forums and Gearjournal. They will custom cut for you. Because only one layer of webbing will pass through the buckle, I have to cut them to fit a little smaller than your waist size so I will need your actual waist size, not your pants size.

For the time being I will doing Black , OD green and Coyote Brown, I have both silver and black buckles so those interested just let me know either here, through a PM or email at chute43@yahoo.com

They will be 22.00 each plus 4.00 to ship. I am going to run a batch over to the sewing shop on Wednesday July 15th of next week. So if you are interested act now.

Once in production they will come in several sizes

These are photos of my personal coyote brown with silver buckle

Thank you
kary
http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff151/chute43/100_1511-1.jpg
http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff151/chute43/100_1512.jpg

[illusion]

Have you ever looked into making a few belts with this type of buckle cobra (http://www.paragear.com/templates/parachutes.asp?group=34)

[chute43]

Have you ever looked into making a few belts with this type of buckle cobra[/url]


I have , I just purchased my own sewing machine so that I can start to expand, my "business" I will still use sewing contractors for the final work but it will give me the chance to expand my line but by using contractors to sew the items, I save money and so does the customer.

The guy who is doing my sewing right now does a lot of military and law enforcement special unit custom work. And also it keeps the work in the united states instead of overseas or in mexico. I recently had a chance to out source some work to India but I had to decline due to my moral obligations to the US economy. As many also know I only purchase webbing made in the US to very strict standards military standards. Sorry didnt meant to ramble

My purpose in adding to the post today is to show my new belt that I got in yesterday.
This is coyote brown with black buckle and the price will be 16.00 off ebay.

thank you
kary
http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff151/chute43/edc/Belts/100_1517.jpg

[illusion]

Thats great, let us know how it goes! If you start making any with the Cobra type of buckle let me know..

[chute43]

What I was thinking was using the 1 3/4 buckle with a slide adjustment on one side, double layer for all of the inner belt. The black with black looks real good And with an coated D ring on the left side. I get my most of my stuff from a military sewing supplier in LA who has a better selection and a little faster service. I know of another guy who did one but he was pretty pricey. His version was around 60.00 I can come in below his price I am sure but not by much because the buckle is so expensive. I think I could put one together for you for 50.00 plus shipping which shipping would be as low as I can get it.

The belt would be double layer up to the point where it passes through the adjustment buckle.

Let me know and I can call my supplier in LA who always has better quality stuff, buckles like that will have different versions some made in the us and some usually made in india. If you wanted one I will make sure to find quality ones.

kary

[chute43]

If you are looking for something a little less pricey but with a buckle, this is called the airlock belt. This one here I made for a test piece for a possible contract with a helitack crew that wanted custom belts.

This is coyote brown with a black buckle. It isn't a super heavy duty as the Cobra but also doesn't weight a ton either, the cobra buckles are heavy.

Otherwise like I said I can still build you a cobra belt, lets just work out exactly what you want and I will add your parts to my next order, and like I also said earleir my by guy in LA can get the military colors in the cobra buckle

kary


http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff151/chute43/edc/100_1519.jpg

[illusion]

Why the double layer? It ads stiffness to the belt, it more comfy to use with a single layer I think...

Still thinks the "cobra type" of buckle looks better and its also very durable.. I have a belt like this from before, but its way to stiff and thick to use as a every day belt, so never used it...

[chute43]

The single layer is plenty strong, and flexible. I have been receiving lots of request for stiffer through the width for gun belt use, because the cobra buckle is big, the one you had prior was it the 1 3/4 or one of the smaller versions.

I should be able to get which ever one , using good quality webbing is the hard thing. I can control the quality of the webbing I use because I purchase by the spool.

I had been thinking of making a variation with the cobra, just let me know what you are thinking you would like and I will do my best, and I can the single layer cheaper because it wont require as much manual stitching.

If all you want is the 1 3/4 webbing (? color) with a quick release cobra with one side adjustable, maybe 50.00 plus shipping which might be as low as 3.50. Again most of the cost is in the buckle.

let me know and lets make you a nice belt

kary

[illusion]

Ok, have to see if I can find that belt again and have a look at it and have a feel at the weight..! :)

No guns are allowed in this country(at least not in the belt), so single layer is good...



manufactor of cobra buckle (http://www.austrialpin.net/products/cobra/)

[chute43]

Single layer is easy and also pretty fast. I can get the cobra buckle here in two days, just let me know what color you are thinking. It would be pretty easy , I usually don't like velcro but I would use it on this belt to control the free end.

What colors are you thinking?

kary

[MagicDot]

I'd be very much interested in a double layer belt in dark brown w/ a black cobra buckle. Is that combo possible?

[chute43]

I'd be very much interested in a double layer belt in dark brown w/ a black cobra buckle. Is that combo possible?


Yes ofcourse, most likely a two week turn around because I am out of the dark brown right now but that isn't a big deal. I received your email and I will be replying to it quickly.

thank you
kary

[MagicDot]

I'd just like to say that Kary is a great guy to deal with. He wants *you* to get what you want and in the right size. In a couple of weeks I'll have me a cool new belt thanks to his time and effort. It was a real pleasure to work w/ someone who's interested in working with you. On the other hand, it was rather disconcerting to see my 32" jeans have somehow gravitated to about a 34 or 36. :( Too much EDCForums and not enough getting out there. ;)

[chute43]

You were right the buckle is actually quite light, only 4 oz. I am placing an order tomorrow if you would like for me to start your belt, let me know and I can add your buckle to the order..

kary






manufactor of cobra buckle (http://www.austrialpin.net/products/cobra/)
[/quote]

Ok, have to see if I can find that belt again and have a look at it and have a feel at the weight..! :)

No guns are allowed in this country(at least not in the belt), so single layer is good...



manufactor of cobra buckle (http://www.austrialpin.net/products/cobra/)

[towheadedmule]

Chute, Can you make a black belt without the yellow showing on the edges? I work on an ambulance, in uniform. The company "just" lets me get away with a rigger belt that needs replacement. The yellow tho would be a no no.

Thanks

THM

[chute43]

Chute, Can you make a black belt without the yellow showing on the edges? I work on an ambulance, in uniform. The company "just" lets me get away with a rigger belt that needs replacement. The yellow tho would be a no no.
Thanks
THM


Give me a little big to look again to see what I can find. I am pretty picky about only using high quality resin coated webbing and I dont want you to have any issuses.

I may know more tomorrow

kary
thank you for asking, I know how amublance life is, I had pretty rough shift last night

[towheadedmule]

Ok. I will be getting at least one belt from you, in Tan.


As for ambulance life, I miss it. I injured my back on a call in December, had a Spinal Fusion less than a Month ago, looking to get back in December to January. My system is pretty busy, runnning about 80000 calls a year in my coverage area (combined with the other district its about 170000 a year). Lots of nursing home calls, drunks, and bogus crud. But there is always that one call, the cardiac arrest save, the trauma vic that makes it, the preemie with an APGAR of 3 that perks up to 7 by the time you make it to the hospital. I just miss helping people.

THM

[chute43]

What buckle are you thinking about ? the one I normally use or something else. A guy across town who bids military contracts I know he had some black webbing that was similar to mine resin coated super durable, but without the yellow contrast stitching. I am going to his shop tomorrow. I am buying an instrial sewing machine from him tomorrow.

kary

[chute43]

towheaded mule

Okay I found some , it is a little thicker than I normall use but I ordered some for you. It was a little more expensive but it still cheaper than a blackhawk or spec ops belt.

I will let you know

kary

[illusion]

Do a black single layer belt with mate black Corba buckle for me. Not to keen on the velcro either, so any other ideas so solve it? Think I will stay away from the D-ring, so no ring. Just a plain belt with the Cobra.. :) It is an everyday belt for a civilian.. ;)

[chute43]

Do a black single layer belt with mate black Corba buckle for me. Not to keen on the velcro either, so any other ideas so solve it? Think I will stay away from the D-ring, so no ring. Just a plain belt with the Cobra.. :) It is an everyday belt for a civilian.. ;)


Sounds good, I have a way to deal with the free end I think I will email later for more details. I need to know if you are right or left handed as well.

thank you
kary

[towheadedmule]

towheaded mule

Okay I found some , it is a little thicker than I normall use but I ordered some for you. It was a little more expensive but it still cheaper than a blackhawk or spec ops belt.

I will let you know

kary


Sweet, as for the buckle your standard in black will work. I like the option of using it (as dangerous as belt loops would make it) if I really have to. Thank you

THM email is towheadedmule@cox.net

[illusion]

Sounds good, I have a way to deal with the free end I think I will email later for more details. I need to know if you are right or left handed as well.

thank you
kary


I am a "lefty"... ;D

[chute43]

Sweet, as for the buckle your standard in black will work. I like the option of using it (as dangerous as belt loops would make it) if I really have to. Thank you

THM email is towheadedmule@cox.net



Sounds good, I will let you know when it is done, price for the belt will be 16.00 plus 4.00 to ship unless you want me to add velcro to the free end which will add a couple of bucks. I have found you don't need the velcro and it eats at your pants but I know some like it .I will send you the inoive when it is finished.

Illuision,

about your free end I could use the velcro but just put the free end on the inside of the belt so you wouldn't see it. I am planning on useing a the cobra that would be friendly to usiing your left hadn to open. Let me know what you think about the . I fyou didn't want the vecro all together then we could just cut it about 3-4 inches from the buikle and you could just tuck it under your belt loop, unlesss you have another idea.

thank you

kary

[towheadedmule]

Sweet Thank you. If you dont think the velco is necessary then that is good enough for me.

THM

[chute43]

I just have seen the velcro eat at the fabric of the belt looks, and over time with uniform pants it looks crappy, and I am sure you know to well , that most of the time uniform pants are over priced



thank you, I will keep you updatedm the webbing should be here in a week

kary

[illusion]

just stay away from the velcro... I dont have any good ideas at the moment!

[chute43]

If I left about a 4 inch tail , it would be like a normal belt and you can just run it under your pant's belt loop, plus I have these black elastic loops that are 1 3/4 that I used to put on belts but no one used them. But they would keep your free end controlled. I could attach two of them to the belt. Since you don't really have to adjust the belt often , I think that would work for you. And it would look pretty clean.

kary

[illusion]

Sounds like a good idea...! O0

[towheadedmule]

I like that too chute. :iagree:

[chute43]

Good, problems solved on two belts good. I really dislike velcro as well.

I will update you both as your belts progress.

thank you
kary

[BadKarma]

Got my belts today,,,these things are great. I'll definately be getting a few more soon.

[chute43]

Badkarma, I am glad you like them and I very sorry for the delay, and thank you for the business and they understanding about the delay.

Illusion, towheadedmule and Salt , your pieces are starting to arrive and I should have most of them finished by wednesday the 29th. I am sure I will have some more questions so that these are truely custom. I will resolve any final build question on sunday night.

Towheadedmule and Salt your belts will end up being double thickness because the webbing is a little softer than what I normally use and with them being double thick they will feel like pliable leather and not like a gun belt.

Illusion you were right the cobra buckle is super nice, smooth operation and super light like you said.

Your buckle

http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff151/chute43/edc/100_1530.jpg


I will keep everyone posted

thank you for your continued support
kary

[towheadedmule]

Sounds good!

[illusion]

oh sexy.... ;D

[chute43]

Illusion, when you get a chance can you measure your waist for me to make sure I get the best fit.

thank you

kary

[QtrHorse]

I might have missed the price of the double layer belts with the Cobra buckle.

I would be interested in one depending on the price and some finished pictures.

The configuration I would be interested in, is a double layer belt, Cobra buckle and no velcro.

[illusion]

Illusion, when you get a chance can you measure your waist for me to make sure I get the best fit.

thank you

kary


About 33-34", just did a quick measure to 84cm...

[chute43]

Qtrhorse, I am thinking around 55.00 each, the buckles are pricey, I should have some finshed by the end of the week, I am held up right now by waiting for material.

Illusion, I should have yours done today but I am waiting on the elastic loops. After that I will be ready to ship, where are you? I usually ship usps priority mail international and I only charge what the postal service charges me.

[illusion]

Qtrhorse, I am thinking around 55.00 each, the buckles are pricey, I should have some finshed by the end of the week, I am held up right now by waiting for material.

Illusion, I should have yours done today but I am waiting on the elastic loops. After that I will be ready to ship, where are you? I usually ship usps priority mail international and I only charge what the postal service charges me.



You have shipped to me before! Norway...

[chute43]

I knew the screen name sounded familiar, I thought your belt would be done today but my sewing machine is acting up, most likely my fault so I will let my normal sewing guy sew it and it should be done on wednesday. I will use the same shipping as last time.

sorry I didn't recognize the screen name, business has been booming lately

kary

[illusion]

I knew the screen name sounded familiar, I thought your belt would be done today but my sewing machine is acting up, most likely my fault so I will let my normal sewing guy sew it and it should be done on wednesday. I will use the same shipping as last time.

sorry I didn't recognize the screen name, business has been booming lately

kary


No problem, I am in no Hurry. :D.. Great to here your business is going well.. O0

[chute43]

illusion, do like this style of webbing or the all black

http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff151/chute43/edc/Belts/100_1536.jpg

I have more of the all black coming, at the end of the week

kary

[illusion]

usually I am an all "black" type, but the one with the yellow line is all good. Have it on my first belt from you an it doesnt bother me..

[landwire]

http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff151/chute43/edc/Belts/100_1536.jpg


I wish I waited to order. That is an awesome buckle. Now I have an excuse to buy another belt.

[chute43]

Illusion, your belt is done, a left hand single layer cobra belt. I left the elastic piece free to slide it is already pretty tight, so you can remove it if you don't need it or use it once the waist size is fixed. The all black looks good but that type of webbing has a softer feel to it, so it is better in double layer belts, thats my thought atleast

http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff151/chute43/100_1537.jpg

http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff151/chute43/100_1538.jpg

if everything looks as you would like it, I can get the invoice out to you. Or if you want me to change anything please let me know.

you can PM me your email address or you can paypal me 54.95 which is 42.00 for the belt and 12.95 for international shipping, I know I quoted your price higher originally but the belt ended up being pretty simple to make, when I quoted you the first time, I didn't really know if you would want something crazy .



thank you
kary

[illusion]

You already have the money O0

[chute43]

thank you , I will have it in the mail this afternoon.

kary

[RyanMalpiede]

How much for one of the elastic bands? I was going to make one, but if you are selling them, I would rather buy. Thanks.

[chute43]

Just PM me your address again and I will just drop one in the mail to you, they only cost me a few cents a piece.

kary

[chute43]

This is a new belt, similar in design to others on the market. I built this for a fellow firefighter. It uses a cobra buckle which after Illusion made me aware of how cool they are. I have now purchased a bunch of them. This belt uses 2 layers of type 13 webbing, sewn together with a double stitch. The attachment point is held in place by two seperate box Xs on both sides. To clean up the belts look a little I put the free or running of the webbing inside the waist band of the belt.

http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff151/chute43/edc/Belts/100_1552.jpg
http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff151/chute43/edc/Belts/100_1554.jpg
http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff151/chute43/edc/Belts/100_1559.jpg

This is a recent batch of Airlocks I built for a friend's fire crew in northern california
http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff151/chute43/edc/Belts/100_1521.jpg


As you might be able to tell I am enjoying my recent purchase of a used industrial sewing machine.

kary

[illusion]

http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff151/chute43/100_1537.jpg

Using my new belt today for the first time.. :D

The belt is actually pretty "light weight" and buckle works so smooth...

[Widerstand]

I just got my belt in the mail yesterday and I could not be more happy with it! the quality and price are unbeatable!

[chute43]

I am glad both of you received your belts and your happy with your purchases.

As many of you can tell for those who have followed this thread, I am starting to branch out and build some new belt mainly out what started me in the belt business to start with , me seeking a product at a cheaper or better product with more innovative ideas. I am currently building a couple of the double layer cobra rigger belts for some EDCers. If anyone has any new ideas or thoughts email me or PM me.

I should have some new belts finished soon so expect more pictures.

thank you
kary

[SALT]

I have two of Chutes belts, both the belts and him are top knotch! You can't go wrong.

[chute43]

Salt, thank you for the kind compliments, I am glad the new belt is working out for you.

I have recently completed a couple new cobra rigger belts for some of EDC members along with some local fire/rescue personel.

http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff151/chute43/edc/Belts/100_1580.jpg
http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff151/chute43/edc/Belts/100_1573.jpg
http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff151/chute43/edc/Belts/100_1579.jpg

If you have any questions about the cobra rigger belts with or without the attachment ring feel free to email me chute43@yahoo.com or PM as well

thank you
kary

[DB]

Hopefully this isn't a silly question, but how do you feed this new style of belt through belt loops? Just looking at the images, it doesn't look like the either end of the buckles would fit through standard belt loops. :D

[chute43]

It takes a little wiggling(very technical phrase). The male end (which is the side without the attachment ring) of the cobra buckle will slide through you just can't do it in a hurry. I have built several without the attachment lately as well. Belt loops that are 1 3/4 minimum would be required for this one. Not really a quick donning item, but the cobra buckle is pretty cool, if you aren't familiar with it, it weighs 4 ounces is cut from (I believe) CNC grade aluminum. A similar belt(but used) belt just recently sold for 122.00 on a auction on ebay.

kary

[sdg]

Nice belts!

chute, Is it possible to make a belt like this:

http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff151/chute43/edc/Belts/100_1536.jpg


but with a 1.25" or 1.5" wide belt (all black) and buckle? If so, what would the cost be?

Thanks

[chute43]

Not really, you are limited by the webbing and the buckle, I generally stick with the 1 3/4 buckles but they make a 1 inch cobra buckle, and jonestactical makes a 1 1/2 belt called the EDC belt and I could build it, if I built that for you, I would be ripping off his design completely. I just don't want to do that. He mounts 1 inch webbing on 1 1/2 webbing. I just dont think it too cool of me to rip off his work, he seems like a good guy and does good work. And he has those items in stock to the best of my knowledge.

sorry I couldnt help you out but I wouldnt want someone to rip off my work

I am pretty sure his address is www.jonestactical.com

sorry again
kary

[sdg]

No need to apologize. I wouldn't expect or want you to copy anyone's design and appreciate that you would rather direct me to the appropriate vendor... kudos for that.

I looked at the "EveryDay Belt" and it's a little much for me. I don't plan on carrying anything on it other than maybe at some point a multi-tool or flashlight sheath. I pretty much only need it to hold my pants up.... ha!

I'll send Jones Tactical an email to see if they can build me a lighter-weight version of the belt.

Thanks for the info!

[chute43]

The lighter weight is the issue, I atleast and I believe jones has found the same thing, that there isn't a inbetween for webbing in 1 1/2 it is either the scuba webbing which is what the edc belt uses or the stuff uses on backpacks. I have called several vendors and it is all the same. I just purchased some scuba webbing to line one of my cobra belts that the customer is going to use as a gun belt.

I didn't think you really would want me to copy a design, I just belt bad to turn down a possible customer and edc-er but on the otherhand it was jones design and he deserves the business.

good luck and maybe jones has had better luck.

kary

[Cotherion]

One Black with silver buckle and one black with black buckle (cobra)
Please quote me for shipping to Malaysia and if possible email me.

If not I'll check out this thread from time to time.

[abarnhart]

Still loving my "Original" Smokejumper months later... Heck of a belt... carries my Blackhawk and Barkie every time I'm hiking. Arguably the best item I have found/bought from these forums.

Now, it's always hard on the pocketbook to see a great little company grow. $42 plus shipping for the new "Cobra" style? Are they double thickness all the way around?

[Cotherion]

Not wanting to sound like I'm promoting another forum but if you advertise your belts for sale in the maker's gear for sale section of Bladeforums I'd think you'd do quite well. I know a lot of tubby guys who need a good strong belt that won't stretch when the beer spills :)

I asked a knifemaker in ebay to join and sell his wares in forums and now he gets better prices and his blades get sold faster. I should have asked for a commission :)

[chute43]

The cobra belts are double thickness up to the point where it passes through the slide buckle. I add a third layer of a different type of webbing , I also laminate the three layers together with an industrail adhesive before sewing them together with #138 nylon bonded thread, which has a 16 lb tensile strength. I make about four pass on the final set up. Labor wise they require between 45 minutes and one hour to assemble from start to finish.

What I call the cobra gun belt, which is the riggers belt without the attachement ring, are 50.00 plus shipping, the going rate from other tactical sewing operations are 69.00 and up.

I know the price is a little spendy but you have to remember the buckles cost 30.00 each but my prices are lower than the rest out there, because I stilll work out of my house.







Still loving my "Original" Smokejumper months later... Heck of a belt... carries my Blackhawk and Barkie every time I'm hiking. Arguably the best item I have found/bought from these forums.

Now, it's always hard on the pocketbook to see a great little company grow. $42 plus shipping for the new "Cobra" style? Are they double thickness all the way around?


Not wanting to sound like I'm promoting another forum but if you advertise your belts for sale in the maker's gear for sale section of Bladeforums I'd think you'd do quite well. I know a lot of tubby guys who need a good strong belt that won't stretch when the beer spills :)

I asked a knifemaker in ebay to join and sell his wares in forums and now he gets better prices and his blades get sold faster. I should have asked for a commission :)


I will look into that, right now I am pretty close to not being able to keep up, I will be fully caught up by monday though. I will look into it though.

thank you
kary

thank you

[chute43]

These are the coyote brown cobra gun belt. Super clean look. and stiff.
50.00 plus shipping each belt like most of my upper end belts are custom build,

http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff151/chute43/100_1605.jpg
http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff151/chute43/100_1710.jpg
http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff151/chute43/100_1712.jpg

This is the extended cobra riggers belt, built specifically for those wearing body armor and or chest rig.
These are a little pricey becaue of how long they take to assembley at 60.00 but cheaper when compared with others

http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff151/chute43/100_1602.jpg
http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff151/chute43/100_1604.jpg
http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff151/chute43/100_1603.jpg


Usually less than 2 day turn around
kary

[marcoc]

Hey Kary,

Got my Cobra Riggers belt...good value as usual...used it fora short shift tonight, I looked like I could do more than I was trained to do! :) Thanks again.

Marco

[chute43]

I was hoping that it had made it. I hope the second version was better than the first. Glad you like it , I think I said it before but I think your belt will last for quite a long time.

thank you for the business, and I hope all goes well for your upcoming move
kary

[Cotherion]

Got my belts :) They finally made it across the world to Malaysia.

They will outlast me I'm sure. Very strong and some of my workmates asked questions about my cobra belt. They were impressed with the details about the webbing strength and the buckle strength (I memorized them :)). They were especially impressed with the fact they were custom made for my belly!

Many people were surprised with the price for the regular smokejumper belts. I too am particularly pleased especially with the stylish (and unique, especially in Malaysia. Noone has one like my cobra buckle). Thanks Kary for the excellent service.

The ends of the webbing did unravel a little. I melted the ends further and chopped off the edges (made the free end less angled) and and dripped some superglue un the edges. I think it's fine now. Perhaps you might want to consider chopping the edges off? It makes it easier to put into the belt straps in my pants.

All in all I'm verily pleased. I'm gifting one to my little brother (who also has a belly problem like me) and I'm pretty sure he'll love them.

[chute43]

I was actually thinking about your order today, I am glad it arrived safely and I even more happy you like your belts. I had been toying with the idea of puttling a three sided taper on the end. I made your belt before I purchased my hot knife whichi will make that easier, sorry for the unravelling but I am glad it was a quick fix. I am also happy your coworkers are jealous, it is a good feeling. I assume your friend found the package using the number I hope.

thank you again for your business

kary

[Cotherion]

Well I'm wearing the Cobra Belt for days now. Really cool cause of the questions I get asked. Also the belt feels comfortable and really easy to use and take off. One thing for Cobra belt owners, make sure the buckle is fully engaged. Sometimes only one of the copper (is it copper?) thingy engages and you need to make sure both copper thingy engages. However even with one copper thingy engaging the belt is still holding but I'm guessing with half strength. It is an easy thing to make sure the buckle fully engages and once fully engaged it is very very secure.

I'll definately be back for some more belts. Especially if they had the three sided ends. Thanks again for a wonderful service. O0

[chute43]

I did several today with the three sided taper, looks nice and clean , thank you for the advice.

I should make me a cobra belt one day, I haven't really worn one, I buit my girlfriend one of my extended rigger belts with a cobra buckle , for her apocalypse gear. She is out of town and hasn't seen it yet. I am going to do the taper on hers too.

thank you again for the design change

kary

[1*]

One of Chute's belts arrived today that I picked up off of the bay. I am very impressed. It won't be long before I pick one up in another flavor, maybe a double thick for range work. Keep up the great work :roof:

[Cotherion]

Actually the normal smokejumper belt in double thickness seems a good idea (more firm/rigid) but would it fit nicely in the buckle? Wouldn't it be too tight? If it works fine then I'd like to know how much it'll cost.

[greyhound352]

I did several today with the three sided taper, looks nice and clean , thank you for the advice.

I should make me a cobra belt one day, I haven't really worn one, I buit my girlfriend one of my extended rigger belts with a cobra buckle , for her apocalypse gear. She is out of town and hasn't seen it yet. I am going to do the taper on hers too.

thank you again for the design change

kary




:worthless: Of new three side taper.

[chute43]

Actually the normal smokejumper belt in double thickness seems a good idea (more firm/rigid) but would it fit nicely in the buckle? Wouldn't it be too tight? If it works fine then I'd like to know how much it'll cost.


I only do the double thickness up to the buckle so that almost every one is a custom belt, it is the deck belt but with improvements. I do them for 22.00 each , I have to make myself a new one because I lost too much weight. I am building a couple today for some competitive shooters .

I will shoot some photos of them, with the three sided taper as well. Some of my designs are mine while otheres are you guys and some of the others out there.

thank you for the advice
kary

[Cotherion]

Nah, (I'm sure you would have arrived on the idea sooner or later. I am enjoying both types much. Each has it's advantages.

[chute43]

I like to believe that my belts arrived at where they are based upon you guys as well as some of my stuff. I have a wide range of jobs and experience so that adds a little but hearing what you guys want is another thing. I just finished a belt this morning for the competitive shooter and I think about how each prior custom belt got me to his belt.

more pictures to follow soon
kary

[chute43]

This is the Deck Belt 2.0, I will be working out the sizing on these over the couple of days so I will be doing these in small, medium, and large.

http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff151/chute43/100_1739.jpg
http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff151/chute43/100_1743.jpg
http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff151/chute43/100_1742.jpg
http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff151/chute43/100_1740.jpg

All of my deck belts and the cobra belts from here on out will include the three sided taper on the end. Plus I also discovered that by using a thinner thread on the velcro the velcro lays flatter.

Hope everyone likes it, so far this one has picked up in popularity with the CCW crowd, this belt in particular was belt for a IDPA competition shooter.

thank you

kary

[greyhound352]

Thank you for the pics, the three side taper looks great!

How are the breaker bar sheathes coming along? Hope to see them available along with the belts.

I really like the look of the extended cobra riggers belt, going to have to save for one of those, Jon's killing my budget with all of the Barkies that are available.

[MagicDot]

I just got my belt today from Kary. I got the double thickness rigger's belt w/ the cobra buckle and extended tie off point. Good quality work on Kary's part and he's a real pleasure to deal with. O0 I'm really happy. All the stitching is nice and straight, the layers all line up and it all seems to be quality material. I'll try to take pictures of it on and attempt to not make it into a porn shoot. I might have to get another one in a color a little less subtle so it stands out a bit as I got it in brown. ..maybe hazard yellow w/ red stitching.. ;)

[chute43]

Thank you for the pics, the three side taper looks great!

How are the breaker bar sheathes coming along? Hope to see them available along with the belts.

I really like the look of the extended cobra riggers belt, going to have to save for one of those, Jon's killing my budget with all of the Barkies that are available.





Still searching for the perfect 2" webbing, I bought some that was junk the other day, and my search continues

I will keep you updated.

kary

[echo63]

i may have to get one of these built, Chute43, could you run a thin 1 3/4 inch webbing,(mil-w-4088 type12) inside a double layer cobra belt, as an abrasion buffer, to stop the buckle, and dring damaging the load bearing webbing ? much like a parachute harness is built ?
also, what thread are these sewn with ?

regards

echo

[chute43]

I dont have any type 12 but I have type 13, I havent seen how an actual parachute harness is built but from what you are saying like a liner inside the fixed end buckle, I don't think so because two layers won't fit through the cobra buckle. Unless you have seen it fit into a cobra, I never have though, I checked the specs real quick on type 12 and it seems pretty thin, but I just hadnt see it done on the cobra, some of the rappel harnesses the USFS use on their heli-rappel fire crews use a similar method to protect load bearing parts. I can order some type 12 on my next partial roll order to see what it is, and how thick is it.

It would ofcourse work on the V ring buckle or the old style rectangular slide buckles. And I could to it

As for thread I use #138 nylon bonded thread size FF , all final construction sewing is done in one stitching piece so there are no breaks in the stitching for the most strength, and I also try not to sew over prior passes on the body of the belt, and I try and space out the final construction sewing 1/32". I use a pretty tight stitches per inch. I make a total of 7 passes with the #138 on the full length of the belt

I use #69 nylon bonded thread on the velcro though, because it helps with making the velcro look smoother, but I do a double pass on it.

I hope that answers your question
thank you
kary

[echo63]

I dont have any type 12 but I have type 13, I havent seen how an actual parachute harness is built but from what you are saying like a liner inside the fixed end buckle, I don't think so because two layers won't fit through the cobra buckle. Unless you have seen it fit into a cobra, I never have though, I checked the specs real quick on type 12 and it seems pretty thin, but I just hadnt see it done on the cobra, some of the rappel harnesses the USFS use on their heli-rappel fire crews use a similar method to protect load bearing parts. I can order some type 12 on my next partial roll order to see what it is, and how thick is it.

It would ofcourse work on the V ring buckle or the old style rectangular slide buckles. And I could to it

As for thread I use #138 nylon bonded thread size FF , all final construction sewing is done in one stitching piece so there are no breaks in the webbing, and I also try not to sew over prior passes on the body of the belt, and I try and space out the final construction sewing 1/32". I use a pretty right stitches per inch ratio as well. I also put a 3" box X on both ends of the belt. I make a totla of 7 passes with the #138 on the full length of the belt

I use #69 nylon bonded thread on the velcro though, because it helps with making the velcro look smoother, but I do a double pass on it.

I hope that answers your question
thank you
kary

Thanks for replying.
I havent seen the liner done with a Cobra buckle, but what i was referring too, is probably very similar to the way your fire crew harnesses are done.
if you wouldnt mind ordering a metre of so of the type 12 with your next order, it would be great to see if it will fit,
I will be ordering a belt from you shortly, i will send a PM to work out everything i would like.

Regards

Echo

[chute43]

I have had a roll of type 13 (which is all black)webbing laying around from a prior law enforcement order. Many of you know my original design for the "deck belt" has evolved and is becoming popular with IDPA shooters and hopefully the CCW guys. I believe the price is very competitve with 5.11.

I use my normal technique of two layers of 1 3/4 webbing another layer of narrower webbing sandwiched inbetween to stiffen up the center of the webbing. I also line the fixed bar of the buckle with Type 12 webbing to reduce wear on the webbing that wraps around it. No one I know of is currently doing this features. For adjustability they have 6 inches of adjustment.

Also I have upped my number of stitching passes to 9 , so that the stiffness is increased by compressing the webbing along its length.

At 25.00 (I know that is an increase from original price but I also now put double the labor time into the belt)plus 5.00 for US shipping and 12.95 for international shipping (10.95 for Canadian), I think it is a good deal.

http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff151/chute43/100_1820.jpg
http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff151/chute43/100_1821.jpg
http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff151/chute43/100_1822.jpg
http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff151/chute43/100_1819.jpg


thank you
kary

[freeride]

Can you do your "Deck Belt 2.0" in all of the colors in your first post for $25 plus $5 shipping? Is this your suggestion for CCW?

[chute43]

Yes , I can , I think I have almost all of the colors in stock, the dark brown is almost gone (it is a now discontinued color) but I am working to find more, there might be a guy in PA that has a half spool. And I am working on getting more of the khaki. And in most colors I have the matching thread and velcro except the blue and the brown.
and yes it is my suggestion for CCW, if the belt fails to meet your needs just let me know and I will refund the order. I estimate it takes over 10-12 lbs of force to start to get the edges of my V-ring shooter belt to roll. I have sold quite a few to CCW and IDPA shooters without any complaints and several have been repeat customers. I sold a similar belt to a sheriff's office based rescue team member.

Let me know and I will get you belt rolling. I am planning on getting fully caught up on orders on monday. I hurt my back in a car accident( I was struck from behind) so with some spasms and pain, I got a little behind.

For the price, I attempt to be very competitive with the big guys like 5.11, plus their belts are made out of the country, and mine are made in my garage, and all of my materials are US made because I purchase from the suppliers to the US military.
thank you
kary

[chute43]

I just finished a large batch of V-ring Shooter's Belts, like I have said in prior post these are the improved version of the double layer belts, much stiffer, and much stronger with velcro securing the free end.

Price is still at 25.00 plus 5.00 to ship to all 50 states, 10.95 for shipping to Canada, and 12.95 to europe

Listed from top to bottom :
Black with Silver buckle
Foliage Green with Black Buckle(more photos coming soon)
Coyote Brown with Black Buckle
Navy Blue with Black Buckle
OD green with Black Buckle
Black with Black Buckle
Dark Brown with Black Buckle

http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff151/chute43/V%20ring%20Shooter/100_1824.jpg


OD Green
http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff151/chute43/V%20ring%20Shooter/100_1828.jpg
http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff151/chute43/V%20ring%20Shooter/100_1830.jpg


Coyote Brown
http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff151/chute43/V%20ring%20Shooter/100_1831.jpg
http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff151/chute43/V%20ring%20Shooter/100_1834.jpg

[goforbroke]

I have a few questions for you, but I will email you tonight.

[21411]

I would like to thank you very much Kary (chute43). I received my Cobra Riggers Belt today. VERY ROBUST!! I've seen some expensive riggers belt and I cannot differentiate your belt with some of the name brand high dollar ones. I don't see a difference.
I will wear the belt with pride as it was made with pride.

PS- Thanks for talking me into the webbing with the yellow borders. I like it. :D :woohoo:

[chute43]

I am glad you like it. The big companies ofcourse have large overheads to cover for but also they charge that much because they have a corner on a very small market. I operate out of garage so I can charge you less. I still get my orders out faster than some of the big boys.

here are a couple of photos of recent belts I built for ebay.

http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff151/chute43/cobra%20belts/100_1852.jpg
http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff151/chute43/cobra%20belts/100_1851.jpg
http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff151/chute43/cobra%20belts/100_1845.jpg
http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff151/chute43/cobra%20belts/100_1848.jpg

And my new personal belt foliage green
http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff151/chute43/V%20ring%20Shooter/100_1853.jpg
http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff151/chute43/V%20ring%20Shooter/100_1854.jpg
http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff151/chute43/V%20ring%20Shooter/100_1855.jpg

[RyanMalpiede]

Wearing one of your belts with locking buckle right now ... been wearing it ever since I got it a couple of months ago. Still loving it! Thanks!

[tlr]

Just wanted to add my .02.

Got my two belts from Kary on Friday evening and I have to say that I really like them. These are the original smokejumper belts (brown and a black). Great quality. A little less stiff vertically than I was expecting/hoping for but a great belt. After Christmas I may have to break down and try one of his double thickness belts.

Ordering from him is great. Extremely easy and quick to work with. You've got a great business and I will certainly be a repeat customer.

Thanks Kary!!!

[chute43]

I am very glad you liked your belts, I was very glad I could get them out in the mail as quick as I did that day. I have been super busy with some team orders, a large south african and another german order. Today I finished a couple of belts for some local national guard guys getting deployed. pics to come soon.

But this is my latest combination a black gun belt with a foliage green buckle which actually looks grey. I haven't even made myself a cobra belt and I felt like it was over due.

http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff151/chute43/cobra%20belts/100_1866.jpg

Here is a photo of a belt I did for a National Guard Medic friend of mine
http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff151/chute43/cobra%20belts/100_1869.jpg
http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff151/chute43/cobra%20belts/100_1871.jpg
http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff151/chute43/cobra%20belts/100_1870.jpg

kary

[RyanMalpiede]

Don't forget to tell them that you can keep sweet toys in the hidden pocket!

http://i1003.photobucket.com/albums/af159/milltools/Junk/AtBelt.jpg
http://i1003.photobucket.com/albums/af159/milltools/Junk/atbelt2.jpg

Enjoy!

Ryan