What kind of watch do you prefer?

[Lee1959]

Analog, Digital, AniDigital? Is there a specific style you like? Diver, Pilots, GMT?

Automatic , windup, kinetic, or Quartz?

Does it go right down to case style, tank, cushion, round, square?

Strap or bracelet? For straps leather, nylon, or rubber?


Myself I prefer Analog, I had a flirt with digitals for a year or two back in the 70s, but since then strictly Analog. I have had a couple, but not many AniDigitals over the years, most for alarms.

Style wise, I prefer divers both external and internal bezels, with cushion cases, and generally bracelets. Near water or for hunting/camping I go with nylon Nato styles.*

[Jumpmaster]

Here is my favorite. I was fortunate enough to buy one from the estate of a soldier that was KIA in Vietnam. I cannot bring myself to fix it up, so I bought a new one a few years ago...It is automatic and unique because the hands only go around once per 24 hours.

Glycine Airman (mine is exactly like this except without the orange hand...):
http://www.m998.com/images/airman.jpg

JM-99

[0dBm]

Analog, Diver's, all metal strap, date indicator, second hand, tritium markers on face and on hour, minute, and second hands, all Ti, matte, dull, non-shiny finish, blue or black face.

That pretty much describes the one and only watch that I wear daily: a Luminox Series 3600 Ti.

I have others, but don't wear them.

[greenLED]

Digital for me. As long as it keeps time, and it takes some abuse, I'm good. I've had the same cheapy Timex since 1999 or so. It has a velcro strap so I use it on my belt - otherwise it stinks majorly when you're working out in the field.

[Goldtanker]

Since I am Analog Man,(aka an old guy) for the past 7 years I have worn the Omega Seamaster Pro Diver's Chronograph. If I see digital time, I have to convert it to analog in my mind. ;D

http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/3470/pc3100145hu.jpg

[Tom Anderson]

I've worn various types over the years, but I've stayed with automatics for some time now.

I prefer "Tool" watches (unclutter dials), stainless steel heads, stainless link bands.

My everyday watch is a Hamilton Khaki Field Chrono.


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[scríbhneoir]

Analog, simple, with lunar phase and second hand--a day and date is okay, but not necessary, self-winding, brown or black leather strap. I had a nice Seiko that met these requirements, but I lost it one night riding my bicycle home from the Salty Dog Saloon after one too many beers in grad school... :( Now I have a Timex Indiglo--about to lose another band--that I've had for years. Still looking for the ultimate old pocketwatch.

My dad had a Hamilton that I loved--rectangular with a curved back. I think he replaced it with a Seiko before one of his tours of Vietnam.

[Tom Anderson]

Still looking for the ultimate old pocketwatch.


Hamilton made them, too! :)

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(Model 941 from about 1905)

[scríbhneoir]

Oh, I know! I have scanned the Web all over the US and England and have seen some beauties. I just don't have the $$ to get one--starving artist and all that rot... :)

[Co_Outdoorsman]

Citizen or Seiko dive watches (>200m or better) analog and I am good to go... Dislike digi's...

[Blue Jays]

Hi All-

My preference for general wear is a 42mm or larger analog in stainless steel on either a NATO band or stainless steel bracelet. Water-resistant to 100 meters is a minimum requirement. Screwdown crown and caseback makes for a more secure timepiece. Rotating bezel is completely optional but occasionally handy.

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The simple fact-of-the-matter is that ALL of us convert digital watches into analog, so one might as well eliminate that needless step. Hands moving around the face of a watch provide a spacial relationship...which isn't done with digital. Our minds "convert" digital numbers to analog to illustrate for us whether we're early, late, or punctual.

~ Blue Jays ~

[Jumpmaster]

The simple fact-of-the-matter is that ALL of us convert digital watches into analog, so one might as well eliminate that needless step.* Hands moving around the face of a watch provide a spacial relationship...which isn't done with digital.* Our minds "convert" digital numbers to analog to illustrate for us whether we're early, late, or punctual.

Skydivers make the same argument when talking about analog vs. digital altimeters, btw...I always used an analog one. Easier to grasp how much altitude you have (or don't have, as the case may be) with an analog one than digital.

JM-99

[Buzzbait]

I guess I'm in the minority here, as I prefer digital watches. After using them for the last few years, I find that I comprehend what I'm reading on a digital display much more quickly than an analog watch. I also prefer quartz movements, purely for the convenience factor, but just happen to hate analog quartz movements. There just something about the second hand ticking once per second that screams out "CHEAPO" to me. So digital it is. I mostly wear G-Shocks.

There are days when I feel the irresistable urge to go old style analog. On those days I wear a Seiko automatic Orange Monster.

http://img120.imagevenue.com/loc85/th_65782_DW5600E_2_85lo.jpg (http://img120.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=65782_DW5600E_2_85lo.jpg)

[Blue Jays]

Hi All-

Another view of a preferred favorite:

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~ Blue Jays ~

[Chief-Yeah]

http://www.duluthtrading.com/search/searchresults/68416.aspx?feature=Product_3

[Lunal_Tic]

Anything without a metal band. I have a few and they all seem to pluck or pinch.

-LT

[kamkazmoto]

My favorite has to be an analog automatic. I hate having to change watch batteries and they inevitably die at the worst time. For a casual watch I prefer a bracelet and if I ever get a dress watch (I would love a Cartier Tank Watch or a Patek Phillipe) it will probably have a leather band. Only thing...no plastic please, I am too hard on my watches!

[Goliath]

I prefer Digital. Too bad that there aren't much nice models with that.
I really like them suunto's because of their great features, but all of them are way too big for my pretty small wrists :(
So I don't have much choice in watches unfortunatly. I currently have an analog Gul watch, pretty good quality since I have it a year or 10, but I'd like to have a new one...

[Jeff9266]

Analog - have never owned a digital watch. For some reason though, every regular clock I've bought recently for home, work and travel has been digital.

[tarrigoni]

I'm a freak about consistent accuracy so I go with Quartz Analog. As much as I like the automatic watches I can't stand it when they get even 30 seconds ahead. It drives me nuts.

[robertrock]

It's strange but I go through phases where I will wear a Seiko auto diver or Luminox quartz analog for awhile and then I'll get in a digital mood and wear one of my several G-Shocks. I'm an accuracy freak so I tend to go quartz more than automatic.



robert

[Dogsmeadow]

A disturbing number of students at the high school where I teach don't have to ability to read the analog clocks on the walls.

I have a Casio that is both analog and digital for times when I don't want to choose.
:)
Jim

[Deaths Head]

I have a titanium Luminox, because I am partial to both titanium and tritium.

[9mm4me]

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[scríbhneoir]

What a timely subject for your first post. Nice-looking watch, and WELCOME!

[TKC]

I like automatic watches. I do not like digital watches, although I DO own one.

[oldolds442]

what more can i say? two of my passions ;D
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v21/oldolds442/rolex.jpg :D

[mikeymoto]

I like each of analog and digital in its own respect. Digital is great for me when I'm on the go and just need the current time. It's a simple no-nonsense tool. My digital watches are both solar-charged and synch daily via radio to an atomic clock. Yes, they're G-Shocks. If a watch of any kind is not accurate, it is not for me. I had to spend money to learn that lesson.

I prefer analog when I want to feel like I look more professional, and because I have a theory about wearing an analog watch. I believe that an analog watch does more for me than a digital, in that I have a better sense of relation between whatever the current time is and any other time of day. I look at the hands on the dial and can better visualize the amount of time between now and some other time, and that is generally a very helpful thing.

I admire automatic movements, but I have yet to find one that is as accurate as I require. Not "require" as in my job dictates that I have an accurate watch, rather "require" in that my experiences and resultant preferences have led me to believe. Given the previous statement, I currently wear quartz analogs, though I still have one auto.

I have all kinds of regard when it comes to bands/straps/bracelets. I prefer metal bracelets in general. I also like 2-piece zulu straps. I generally do not prefer rubber straps but stick with it on one of my G-Shocks because I think the strap adapters are ugly. I don't like leather straps. I also have small wrists (~6.5") and have trouble with straps fitting me comfortably. Usually metal bracelets are adjustable enough to get me to a good fit.

Right now I'm wearing my Marathon TSAR (quartz) analog on a gray 2-piece zulu strap. The fit isn't as snug or comfortable as the metal bracelet, but sometimes I prefer the light weight of the zulu.

Ahh, life is good.

EDIT: Oh yeah, my preferences also dictate that a wristwatch must also show the date, at a minimum. I also have strong feelings about symmetry, one of those being that I dislike a watch with the date at 3 o'clock. I like on the TSAR how every hour marker is numbered. Likewise on my Citizen 2100. I have a Marathon M-16-II (the aforementioned last remaining auto I own) on which I had the dial swapped for a *SAR one with the date at 4:30. Currently I have high admiration for the Sinn UX EZM3 chronometer. Highly symmetrical, certified chronometer, thermocompensated quartz movement, highly readable display...droool. Too bad I'm spending all my play money on knives these days.

[spiritof76]

I prefer analog when I want to feel like I look more professional, and because I have a theory about wearing an analog watch. I believe that an analog watch does more for me than a digital, in that I have a better sense of relation between whatever the current time is and any other time of day. I look at the hands on the dial and can better visualize the amount of time between now and some other time, and that is generally a very helpful thing.

Yep. With a digital, you absolutely have to actually read the numbers. So much easier to just get a general sense of where the hour hand is with a quick peek. I started with digitals back when they were brand new in the '70s. Switched over to analog-digital. Then finally to pure analog. Never used all the fancy chronometer functions anyway, although there are times when I wish I had a countdown timer, although the timers and alarms all take too much time and effort to set.

[kwozi]

Although I've never had to try to do this, it's apparently possible to determine which way is North using an analog watch and the sun (there's even a thread on it here at EDC). That's kind of a lame way to say I prefer them to digital I guess :idiot2:
Nonetheless, it does seem like a neat trick to have up your sleeve in an emergency (provided that it really works and all).

[TKC]

I love analog watches!! A must for me is to be water proof. My new Steinhart Ocean 1 is waterproof to 1000 feet; not that I need it that waterproof! I think analog watches are classy looking. I LOVE my TAG automatic too; and it also waterproof. I wear my watch ALL the time; when I sleep, I wear it, in the shower.... I always wear my watch!

I really do not like digital watches. They just don't do it for me.

[mikeymoto]

When I was younger (high school and into college) I recall wearing my watch 24x7 but for the past 6 or 7 years I've been taking it off before bed and putting it back on after I've showered in the morning. It's a comfort thing.

[greenLED]

A quick reminder that hotlinking images is not allowed on EDCF.
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[GrantC]

Over the years I've gotten to the point that I can't stand anything on my wrist. My shirt and coat cuffs don't fit properly, and I'm forever snagging wristwatches as I put my hand into or through something.

My preferred solution is a pocket watch. I prefer railroad-grade watches, which were the pinnacle of American watchmaking. My favorites are the Illinois "Bunn Special" and "A. Lincoln" movements, and the South Bend "Studebaker" movement. Since I trained as a clock and watchmaker when I was a teen (though I don't work at it any longer) I'm able to keep them running well.

I do get some odd looks now and again, when I pull a pocket watch to check the time. Perhaps it's because people from my generation (the very end of the baby boom) don't usually carry such "old fashioned" watches!

[akubra]

Analog automatic watches for me. Analog watches are just more classy (and classic) than digital watches, IMHO. And then theres the craftmanship that goes into making them, which I think is really cool.

Leather bands look nicer, but metal bands are sure tougher and last far longer.

That being said, Ive been wearing a Breitling Navitimer for the past 4.5 years. Im on my second leather watchband, which is soon to be replaced by #3....... . :rolleyes:

[csb]

Ya know, I answered a question similar to this weeks ago on this forum, and never got an answer to a question I raised concerning opinions on Breitling watches.
I like automatic Analog.

After wearing a Rolex Explorer II for about 12 years, the self wind mechanism was not 100% reliable and the Screw/gasket/whatever in the crown needed replacement. Besides, as an everyday wear watch, it was pretty beat up on the outside.
So, I sent it off to Rolex for service. My previously asked question concerned opinions on purchasing something to use while my Rolex was away (the Rolex was my only watch). Specifically the Titanium Avenger Sea Wolf. I got Zero responses.

Here is the end of this story.
I bought the Breitling to wear in the absence of the Rolex. My jeweler told me that, if in like new condition, he would buy the Breitling back at what I had paid since he had given me a good price on a newer Titanium model which is scarce (This, of course after the Rolex was back).

Well guess what? My Rolex Explorer II is back in like new condition, including new crystal and bezel besides the normal servicing, and I have no plans on selling the Breitling. Clever salesman, my jeweler.

NOW DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY OPINIONS OB BREITLING AUTOMATIC WATCHES??????

My problem now is which one to wear!!

[sensen_no_sen]

I like digital G-Shocks on black resin bands. They're lightweight, tough, and functional. Here's one of my favourites.

http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e330/antong3k/untitled.jpg

[mikeymoto]

csb: I'm sure many people have opinions on Breitlings. I don't own any, so my opinions don't count for much. Check out forums.watchuseek.com; they have a Breitling forum. I have been tempted to get a Breitling, but have not pulled the trigger and am currently "watched out".

[Grizhicks]

While I normally wear Timex (have several, but am hard on them), I really like the looks of some of the G-Shocks. I think it's time to start looking at them (might even stop on the way home today). -- Greg

[ryball]

Right now I'm an Analog, auto, G-SAR kinda guy. ;D

[mossyoak]

analog,chronograph,tritium,titanium- ball hydrocarbon engineer.

[akubra]

NOW DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY OPINIONS OB BREITLING AUTOMATIC WATCHES??????

My problem now is which one to wear!!


Opinions on Breitling? Well, Im a fan. Ive "collected" three in the past 12 years : an old Navitimer (automatic analog, of course), Chronomat (automatic analog as well) and a Colt Chrono (analog quartz). I have been wearing the Chronomat from 1995-2002 on a daily basis. It was then "replaced" by my new EDC watch, the Old Navitimer. Ive been wearing that one almost constantly since then, and I love it. Of course, Breitling claims that the quartz watches are about 60 times more accurate than the automatic watches. And yes, I have to set them back (is that the term?) about two minutes every few weeks. Its not really fun, yet its part of owning an automatic watch-unless one is willing to get it serviced on a regular basis. And Im afraid that would get a tad expensive! ;) So yeah-Im willing to live with that.

Other than that though, I really like them. I cant really say how tough they are, as I try to baby them. But Im pretty sure they are very durable watches.

Congrats and enjoy. Oh, and Id say wear the Breitling and retire the Rolex! ;) ;D

[CY]

TSAR for me..

[jamesrodgers]

Luminox watches, Seiko kinetics and swiss army renegade watch for me.

[EODtech]

VINTAGE - Bulova Accutron ( Railroad Certified ) !

[Bravo 25]

Anything with good tritium.

[peacefuljeffrey]

I have always preferred digital watches, no question.

I like the multitude of functions, the accuracy. I don't like to have to count on tiny parts working in synch.

I have not had a solar powered watch yet, but I like the idea of not being dependent on battery life. Rather like having a sailboat and sailing for free all the time as opposed to having a motorboat and having to keep it always fueled if it's going to work for you. So I plan to get a Casio G-Shock with "Tough Solar" power, though I don't know when, or which model. (I despise the ones that receive the atomic clock signal. Too complex.)

So lately I wear a simple $19 Casio -- I think the model is DB-36. It has a stopwatch, alarm, countdown timer, databank, and dual time. I added a slip-on compass to the plastic strap.

My only other watches are a Casio DW-5600E G-Shock (a classic) and a Heuer Pilot Chronograph (automatic). The Heuer is 21 years old. It was a Christmas gift in 1986 and I plan to never get rid of it.

-PJ

[TKC]

I can't help you with the Breittling Automatic question, as I have never owned one. The ones I HAVE seen, look too busy for my taste. I hope someone comes along and CAN help you out. Sorry. I like automatic analog divers watches. Like this one:
http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u130/TheKnifeCollector/SteinhartDebaufre.jpg

[Bucky]

I like automatic tool watches for most occasions and digital/solar/atomic G-Shocks for everything else.

[sensen_no_sen]

Watches weren't invented until 1983 (http://g2max.bravehost.com/g2max02.html)

This should give you an idea of my preferences. ;D

[wykeite]

Cheap (Bahrain airport duty free shop), easy to read, great timekeeper. Seriously thinking about an Ollech & Wajs 2824-2, same style but with Tritium :D

[Jim101]

I like Seiko divers watches, big and heavy........

Jim

[TCW 60]

I' am waiting on my Seiko SKX007 diver. Hope my wrist is not too small. ;D

[sensen_no_sen]

I' am waiting on my Seiko SKX007 diver. Hope my wrist is not too small. ;D


As a general rule imho..

Small wrist + big watch = No problem :thumbsup:

Big wrist + small watch = No way :tickedoff:

[TCW 60]

As a general rule imho..

Small wrist + big watch = No problem :thumbsup:



This is a great rule. I hear the Seiko Black Monster knocking at my door. :bounce:

[Lou3]

I prefer analog automatics with easily read numbers and good luminosity on a basic pilot design. I haven't had a GMT yet, but I'd like one. The only other complication I like is a power reserve indicator, and occasionally a moon phase on a dressier watch. Some of my favorites are:

Sinn 856
Limes Klassik Vintage 1924 Silver
Revue Thommen Airspeed
Pilot Oversized XL- Fliegeruhr Hand Winding with copper dial
Traser Classic Automatic Pro
Fortis Pilot Professional
Omega Speedmaster Day/Date (the one choice for chronograph)
IWC Mark XVI Steel Bracelet

[wykeite]

I prefer analog automatics with easily read numbers and good luminosity on a basic pilot design.  I haven't had a GMT yet, but I'd like one.  The only other complication I like is a power reserve indicator, and occasionally a moon phase on a dressier watch.  Some of my favorites are:

Sinn 856
Limes Klassik Vintage 1924 Silver
Revue Thommen Airspeed
Pilot Oversized XL- Fliegeruhr Hand Winding with copper dial
Traser Classic Automatic Pro
Fortis Pilot Professional
Omega Speedmaster Day/Date (the one choice for chronograph)
IWC Mark XVI Steel Bracelet
   


My brother's got the speedmaster. O0

IWC should rightly rebrand themselves UWC the Ultimate Watch Company :shocked: They truly are the finest, I enjoy even looking at one, but :broke:. Got to leave getting all goose bumpy.

[rik]

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1026/543921469_0adb0f7afe_o.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/rikrose/543921469/)

KHS Commander Titan Pro. Number 42.

[Bravo 25]

Are the markers on that KHS very bright? Some sites are masters at photography with Black Light to make them look better.

[mossyoak]

ok so the KHS Commander Titan Pro, Traser Code Blue, and Luminox 3100 series are all based on the same design very strange, are they all made by the same company? notice the simularities of the bezel ring and case, and the location of the tritium.

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j4/tagheuerformula1/SSL12032.jpg

[rik]

Are the markers on that KHS very bright? Some sites are masters at photography with Black Light to make them look better.


Actually, that is my own photo. And no, they're not that bright, unless you take a nice long exposure photo to let them glow, and then fire the flash at the end. I've documented the procedure on here a couple of times, but I can't resist posting the image :)

In response to mossyoak - yes, they're all on the same internals, from a limited number of factories.

[mossyoak]

who makes the watches for KHS, traser, and luminox?

[EODtech]

I like Seiko divers watches, big and heavy........

Jim


Jim,

Is it the Seiko " Monster "

Did you get it at a USA dealer or order it from Asia?

thanx

[rik]

Good question. I have no idea. Check out specopswatch.com, and ask them. Ther English is very good, really.

[CY]

this reminds of the black Monster I sold for cheap ($55) ... in a moment of weakness.

[mossyoak]

$55? crazy.

[CY]

yep... sold my old black monster for $55 to someone in UK...

he was pretty happy!

[mossyoak]

bet you werent after you snapped out of it.

[znapschatz]

Timex Expedition. Cheap ($13 when I bought it 3 years ago), easy to read analog face, date window, lights up when needed, water resistant to 50m. It loses 12 seconds a year, the most accurate and durable watch I ever owned. Available almost anywhere watches are sold, it is easy to replace. So far, it hasn't even needed a battery after 3 years. This is the second one I have owned. The first one took a new battery and is still running.

I just LOVE :hug: stuff that works great and also just about the cheapest around.

[luigi]

I understand this is a question about style and not about specific watches.

I prefer Digital or Ana/Digi over just analog watches.
I like modern look & feel and many functions, the more the better.

Luigi

[Inner Prop]

:iagree: Another vote for Timex Expedition. I"m on my second one too. I don't remember what happened to my first one, but I'm sure it wasn't watch failure. I'm on my third or fourth band though.

I wore my Expedition the whole time I was in Afghanistan. We were on Zulu time (GMT), but Afghan local time is 41/2 hours ahead of GMT (I guess the country is too poor to afford a whole hour time zone) so I set the digital window at local and the analog at Zulu. Then I set the second digital timezone for CST (so I knew when I could call home).

I love the ability to glance down at an analog watch and see about what time it is, while retaining things like a simple stopwatch, alarm and countdown timer. I also love having the day of the week on there too. You can't get that from one of those little windows with just the number of the day of the month.

It's so reliable that when the power goes out in the house I always set the clocks back by this watch.

[tinkerer]

I like diver watches since my military days. Its not because I'm a diver, but they hold up in rough use. The seiko 200m professional I bought in the early eighties is still working fine. the issued watches were a joke, I broke numerous issue watches. The supply sargent was getting peeved from all the returns ;D. I think they were Hamiltons or Yale Stockdales, most had cracked crystals or fogged up. I tried a G shock digital when they came out but wasn't too happy with all the modes. Finally broke down and shelled out around 300 buck for the seiko. That was a lot of money for a PFC in eighties dollars :(. No regrets and after all this time, its still my favorite. My wife calls it "that horse choking watch" :rolleyes:

[SRT150]

I prefer automatic watches with "silver" (Ti or stainless) cases. Chronograph, Diver, or Pilot, as long as it's at least 100m water reststant- I'm in. Various dial colors are cool too. Of course I'm not limited to Autos; I often wear a quartz (analogue or digital) to work. I guess I'm just a watch junkie-I love them all! ;D

[Lifesaver]

I like Seiko divers watches, big and heavy........

Jim


I like Seikos also. I still have a Seiko automatic that I got when I enlisted in '75. It was a gift from the recruiting station that I'd spent two years working. It still works great. I bought a Seiko diver's watch when I got to Germany. I still have that one too. When I moved on to other endeavors in the military, I got a Rolex Submariner. Everyone else was wearing GMTs. I wanted something different. My ex thought she needed that darned white powder up her nose more than I needed my Sub. So, it disappeared one day. She followed it not long after. My current wife got me a Rolex 50th Anniversary Submariner for Christmas last year. (She's going to have a hard time topping that this year. LOL) That watch is my EDC. I don't take it off even in the shower (not that I need to). Like her, this watch and I are in it for the long haul.

[coloradogps]

My all time favorite is a Rolex Submariner with Date.

Expensive, but worth it.

[NeverReady]

who makes the watches for KHS, traser, and luminox?


i have read reports that luminox is going cheapo these days with the internals going to other factories other than the orginal mb-microtech. mb-microtech are the people making the tritium and making the trasers and KHS, and maybe the luminoxes.

mine traser says mb-microtech on the back.

[mossyoak]

my luminox 3100 series says MB-Microtech on the back and the movement is a ronda 715. its crazy accurate hasnt lost a second yet and its been going nonstop since BLADE (early may) i havent messed with it to switch time zones or anything its in trials so to say.

[jnathan]

Still looking for the ultimate old pocketwatch.

Try searching google for Railroad watches. They're more affordable than you might think.

[Rah14]

Preferably with all hours labeled and good glow-in-the-dark ability.

[Sharpone]

I prefer automatic watches, tho at times it is not as convenient as a battery-operated watch as you kind of have to wear it everyday or risk having the power drain down to zero. Seeing the mechanics through the back glass of my automatic watch is pretty sweet though!

[EODtech]

Analog - quartz - round - strap ( first thing to come off when I acquire a new timepiece is the metal bracelet and replaced with silicone divers or leather strap )

Favorite is a Tissot T-Touch titanium which I "stole" on eBay for $255

ALSO: a Bulova Accutron Railroad approved wristwatch - 1960's era

UPS will be bringing a LUMINOX 3059 this week (http://www.jomashop.com/luminox-evo-navy-seal-mens-watch-3059.html)


PS: orange faces are my favorite

My new Seiko all titanium I got @ Amazon for $105 is a nice backup for EDC