View Full Version : don't play with loaded firearms
ericb445
05-27-2006, 04:47 PM
enjoy
http://worksafevideos.com/photos/unique/shooting.html
I am not the guy that this happened to, If so i would most likely be in jail for what I would have done to him. I guy posted this link on one of my motorcycle boards I go to. I thought that you all would enjoy this story as much as I did.
destroythealter
05-27-2006, 07:53 PM
Where did the get the neighbor an mp5* and .50 cal Rifle* :o I think it's it an AK47 magazine not an M16 (i could be wrong). Also, does he have a woodland bullet proof vest? The story is very very odd....
Did your neighbor get arrested? What an idiot your neighbor is an idiot!! THANK GOD you didn't get shot!!
Makarov
05-28-2006, 08:04 AM
Damn, that was close!!
This is why you should NEVER EVER toy around with a loaded handgun. Even though "you know what you're doing"
As a Range Officer in Norwegian IPSC I've had a guy load a handgun that was assembled wrong and he fired 5-6 round rock'n'roll before the gun jammed. (My earprotection wasn't on you can guess how happy I was >:() If he had done this in his own home(to test the cycling etc) and not on the range the consequences could have been fatal.
As I handload my own ammo, I've made myself som dummyrounds that I use to test cycling etc, these are clearly marked(by painting), and is kept away from the real ammo.
The riflemagazine in definitly AR-style BTW, the AK magazines got the "release latch" is in the back, the magazine pictured got a hole in the side.
That is why we have gun safety RULES! They are there for a reason! Unsafe gun handling, is unsafe gun handling!! People like his neighbor scare the heck out of me!! If you can not handle a gun safely, then you should NOT be handling them at all, at least in my opinion!!
konrad
05-28-2006, 10:59 AM
An AD can happen to the best of us. Apartments are a scary place to have a gun nut for a neighbor, and this one seemed to be without a clue what he was doing.
BigAssDiesel
06-01-2006, 11:59 PM
An AD can happen to the best of us. Apartments are a scary place to have a gun nut for a neighbor, and this one seemed to be without a clue what he was doing.
An AD can happen to the best of us. An accidental discharge is a discharge of the firearm through no fault of the operator. This was clearly an ND, a negligent discharge. ND wont happen to the best because they do not play with guns.
DonShock
06-02-2006, 10:08 AM
I got sloppy once in college and almost did something similar.*:stupid: A buddy and I had been out shooting and just before we left, he demonstrated his highly illegal full auto Mac-11.* Needless to say, we hauled butt ASAP after he let off a couple full auto bursts.* Because of this, I didn't do my normal clearing of my little .22 semi-auto (Hey!, it's all I could afford ;D) before I put it back in it's case.* When we got back to the dorms, I proceeded to clean the gun prior to returning it to storage at the campus police station.* However, I neglected to remove the magazine before checking the gun was clear.* There was one last round in the magazine which of course tried to feed into the chamber when I released the slide.* Normally, not a big deal, drop the mag, rack the slide to remove the live round, and continue cleaning.* Unfortunately, the round jammed and the shell casing actually collapsed far enough to set off the rimfire primer and the round discharged.* All I could think of was "Oh my God, I just killed somebody!"*:bolt: I quickly checked my next door neighbors, who didn't have a clue anything had happened.* After making sure everyone was OK, I returned to my room to find the round.* It had riccocheted off the concrete floor, then off the bookcase, and landed behind me on top of the bed (I was sitting on the end of the bed when this happened).
Yeah, part of this was an accidental discharge, I had never had a jam set off a round before or since.* But it was also negligence because if I hadn't been in a hurry to leave our shooting area and removed the magazine first, it wouldn't have happened.* At least the habit of keeping the gun pointed down and away from anything when checking it kept the round from going through the wall like in this story.
BTW, did anyone else imagine this guy was standing in front of the mirror doing a Robert DiNero impression (from Taxi Driver) or something similar when this happened.
An AD can happen to the best of us. An accidental discharge is a discharge of the firearm through no fault of the operator. This was clearly an ND, a negligent discharge. ND wont happen to the best because they do not play with guns.
The statement about it being an ND, I AGREE with!!
I thought he was doing more or a Dirty Harry thing. But, you might be on to something with regards to the Robert DeNiro thing from "Taxi Driver"!
Codeman
06-02-2006, 11:35 AM
Unfortunately, no one is smart enough to idiot-proof firearms.* I've experienced both and AD and ND - they are definitely different beasts, but with the same potential for disaster.
The first firearm I personally bought was a Colt Commander .45 that I got at a police auction.* It had been confiscated in a drug raid.* The first round went fine.* When I pulled the trigger for the second round, the remaining 5 rounds followed full-auto.* Holding a 45 steady for a double tap isn't too hard, but holding a short-barrelled one on full auto isn't. Luckily, I only put 2 rounds through the roof. The resident gunsmith took a look and we discovered that one side of sear had broken off long ago, but the second side broke on me.*That experience definitely falls into the AD category. Now, any gun I pruchase, new or used, gets completed disassembled by either me or my gunsmith and fully inspected.
A couple of years later, I was an RO for IPSC and was getting out of my car for a local match.* An LEO was parked next to me.* The next thing I know, his gun fired.* He had tried to holster his Glock WITH his finger in the trigger and a round loaded.* He was lucky he didn't shoot his foot.* That's 3 mistakes - an un-cleared gun, a finger in the trigger without the intent to shoot, and a failure to know the state of his weapon.* Any of those are supposed to be automatic DQ's from the match.* But he stll wanted to shoot.* When I protested to the main RO at the event, who was a good friend of the fella, he simly said, "It was an accident.* He's usually safe, so I'll let him shoot."* My BS meter pegged the needle on hearing that.* Range safety rules are there for a reason - and they're there for everyone. I told the main RO that it was a flagrant ND and that if that was how he wanted to run his range, that that was the last time I'd help him or shoot in one of his matches.* I haven't seen either since, nor have I returned.
Negligence can take many forms - complacency, just not thinking, or being a total oblivion like that LEO.* Just goes to show that not everyone who can own a gun should own one.* ND's are completely preventable.
Oh my!! THANK YOU Codeman for your post! WOW!
konrad
06-02-2006, 06:18 PM
ND or AD whatever....please keep in mind the very best, experienced shooters have had one. I have wittnessed several, and one from a very big name shooter.
If you are around guns long enough, someday you will have one. Handle them accordingly.
BigAssDiesel
06-02-2006, 08:21 PM
If you are around guns long enough, someday you will have one. Handle them accordingly.
Every gun class I take somebody will state this. That is why you never point a firearm at anything you do not want destroyed.
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