Glock Stock

[xDANx]

Anybody have one?. These are really cool thought you might want to check it out. They turn any of your glocks into the ultimate plinker.


http://www.gunaccessories.com/GlockAccessories/TacticalStock&Grip/index.asp

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e26/badmf13/a6_2.jpg

[Bravo 25]

Looks nice, but I am not sure how I could conceal it.

[Desertrat1]

Looks cool but not very flexible. I EDC my 17 and couldn't use it.

[JonSidneyB]

They way I understand it the attachment method keeps this legal. Since it is not bolted down or anything it skirts the law on being an attached stock and is thus legal.

[JonSidneyB]

My mistake, this one does require ATF registration

[Makarov]

I've tried shooting with this stock once, and it's not for me. I'd like to test Glock frontgrip magazine adapter (http://www.makosecurity.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=GMFG&Category_Code=makosecurity) though.
All this is produced by a Israeli company(FAB) that(in my opinion) makes *a lot* of things that you don't need, and a few nice things.

My favorite useless item from FAB is the Universal Tactical Attachment (http://www.makosecurity.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=UTA&Category_Code=_M16Misc)...
http://img388.imageshack.us/img388/2181/uta46sc.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
Caption should read; "I might pose like the hunchback from Notre Dame, but I've got a Glock attached to my MP-5" :lolhammer:

Other useless items for Glock inculdes the Cornershot system (http://cornershot.pionet.com/default.asp?catid={3E31AB82-2BB0-11D7-92D3-0080AD76B634}), a new try for that age old shoot-around-the-corners-thing ???

[Redhed]

I agree these are super neat-o, but you guys need to be careful posessing this and a Glock. Even if it is not attached to the pistol it can be construed as constructive posession. You need to have the gun ATF registered as a short barreled rifle or install a 16" barrel (some German company makes one, looks goofy as hell).

Not trying to be a buzz kill, but I hear access to EDC Forums is blocked from Club Fed (and access to your corn hole is not). :judge:

That guy in the picture needs to get two "Universal Tactical Attachments" and attach twin GLock 40s to the 9 and 3 o'clock rails on that MP5. That would be big pimpin'! Have you seen the "cornershot" deal they sell too? :-\

[Jvalera]

Remember the POLICE dont want civilians ro have an edge over them.( sorrry if too political , I forgot the pusefication of America ) well maybe just in CA.

[Loandr.]

My mistake, this one does require ATF registration



you beat me to it my friend, possession of BOTH weither installed or not is a nono :-) STILL nice though. Thank for sharing

Loandr.

[alwilliam]

If you own a glock of any model and that stock you are in possession of a SBR and if you own the STOCK ONLY and their is no weapon it will fit in any way shape or form...then you are legal.

If you want to risk the bust of a SBR you may as well get a pen gun and saw off your shotgun to a 10 inch as its all the same bust.

The front fore grips/K grips that convert the rail and a extra mag to a grip are also illlegal.

[Loandr.]

HEY....dont forget SUM of us like our Shotguns Short so watch it Mr. Williams :-)

[alwilliam]

yea but a tax stamp and the correct form make a world of legal difference. :bomb:

Hell... with the right form and the right state your can own just about anything .

M203 40mm HE comes to mind and what more does a person need than that. >:D

[Loandr.]

YUP gotta love Florida....Id break out pics of the toys BUT not really EDC's ya know :dance:

Loandr.

[xDANx]

There's always the breakroom. ;)

[Loandr.]

hmmmm i learn alittle more each time I sign on here...I will look into that, thanks for the intel ;D

[fstmvr]

Howdy everyone,

I agree that the possession of the stock with the Glock constitutes possession of a Short Barrelled Rifle and is therefore subjects you to possible prosecution unless you have the proper licenses. I do have one question though. Isn't possession of the stock with or without the Glock punishable? Under federal law, if I recall correctly, mere possession of an automatic sear which allows conversion of a semi-automatic firearm into an automatic one; is considered possession of an automatic weapon by itself. You don't have to own or possess the actual firearm to be prosecuted. I get the feeling that the stock falls under the same rules.

Just my .02 cents.

Lon :)

[Loandr.]

I see your line of thinking BUT Stock is Legal to possess, Gun is legal to possess, Owning Both is a BIG NO NO. Ie. A Vertical front grip is Legal to Own on its own correct. BUT slap one up front on the rail of your glock pistol and once again a BIG NONO. Remember "Dont hate the Player!...Hate the Game" baby ;)

LD

[greencobra]

The law is a gray area I think. I'm under the impression you can buy the sear, buy the stock, but installation is what makes it the problem. Legal to own as parts, illegal to put together and use. If this is useless information, well, I've been wrong before. :idiot2:

[Loandr.]

I never have ben fond of "Grey"... ;D

[webley445]

You can own all the "parts" you want, assembly of parts is illegal.

BTW, I think this is where the stock would do most good............ ;D
http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2106307493

click enter, then play video, real eye opener if you've never seen it before :highfive:

[fstmvr]

Hey all,

Not to start an argument but, simple possession of an unregistered sear which renders a semi-automatic weapon full auto, is illegal under the NFA. You don't have to own the weapon itself. Just possession of the sear is considered possession of an automatic weapon under federal law. If you'd like, I'll try to find the section which applies, but it might take a while.

Just my .02 cents.

Lon :)

[jmateer]

Other than the hassle of getting it registered as an AOW, it's pretty fun. My friend tried it at the Ironman 06 competition. Fun little accessory, althought I wouldn't own one.

http://www.cavalryarms.com/ironman2006/507.jpg

[alwilliam]

Hey all,

Not to start an argument but, simple possession of an unregistered sear which renders a semi-automatic weapon full auto, is illegal under the NFA.* You don't have to own the weapon itself.* Just possession of the sear is considered possession of an automatic weapon under federal law.* If you'd like, I'll try to find the section which applies, but it might take a while.

Just my .02 cents.

Lon :)


http://www.atf.treas.gov/

Its all here or just send a email with questions..The BATFE is NOT the jack booted Geheime Staatspolizei most people think they are.

[webley445]

From BATF site:

"(M24) If a person has a pistol and an attachable shoulder stock, does this constitute possession of an NFA firearm? [Back]

Yes, unless the barrel of the pistol is at least 16 inches in length (and the overall length of the firearm with stock attached is at least 26 inches). However, certain stocked handguns, such as original semiautomatic Mauser "Broomhandles" and Lugers, have been removed from the purview of the NFA as collectors' items.

[26 U.S.C. 5845, 27 CFR 479.11]

Notice "attached", however, certain conversion kits to make weapons full auto must be registered, so I think we both stand corrected

[alwilliam]

Just my .02 but do not get caught up in the leagl double talk.

For example if you ahve a glock and one of the insane 16 barrels and a stock and their is NO other barrel in your area that is below the 16 inch length you MAY STILL HAVE A PROBLEM.

IMO...AVOID all* pistol type stocks,k-grips and unknown parts for ar and ak just as general rule of safe water.I know of a case where a guy got 2 years for a m-16 hammer that was IN A PARTS BOX on a gun show table with a legal semi colt AR sp-1 on the same table.The guy had other charges and was aass but it goes to show how tight the law can be on parts,etc....

[Loandr.]

I never have ben fond of "Grey"... ;D


When it comes to hair ;) and Firearms :( Ill say it one MORE time ;D

[Roadkill Bill]

Looks like a silly answer to a question nobody asked. Someone with a lot of spare time on their hands came up with a gimmic to try and make a few bucks. A few people will probably buy them, try them two or three times, and they'll wind up in the junk box with the dead holster collection.

[alwilliam]

IMO-A FA pistol with a stock is NOT a gimmick they work very well.Even a semi pistol with astock is a very stable weapon and makes a godd shot a great shot..they do have real world use..it is small but it is their. :-X

[Loandr.]

I know personally of 3 Isreali military types that wear FA G18's with Fixed stock under coats for ALL their diplomat work....Ive never tried one BUT trust me these guys know there stuff and wouldnt waste the time space nor energy if it wasnt paramount to them. Al good to see you, was thinking about ya today* :highfive:

[alwilliam]

I alive BRO but roasting in 100 degree heat. :highfive:

[foxy]

Remember the POLICE dont want civilians ro have an edge over them.( sorrry if too political , I forgot the pusefication of America ) well maybe just in CA.


I cant imagine adding a piece of **** aftermarket stock to a glock will give you an edge over anyone. If you want a carbine, get a carbine not a 3.5" barrel glock with a crappy stock attachment. Any range you can hit with a 3.5" barrel and sight radius you can hit with standard handgun grip.

[alwilliam]

I cant imagine adding a piece of sh** aftermarket stock to a glock will give you an edge over anyone.* If you want a carbine, get a carbine not a 3.5" barrel glock with a crappy stock attachment.* Any range you can hit with a 3.5" barrel and sight radius you can hit with standard handgun grip.


The main reason for the stock is for the G-18 and its full auto modded brothers and it really makes it a much more stable & better weapon system than just a standard pistol grip when ya hit the rock& roll lever.I do agree the machine pistol is a VERY limited use item.

[Makarov]

My favorite useless item from FAB is the Universal Tactical Attachment (http://www.makosecurity.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=UTA&Category_Code=_M16Misc)...
http://img388.imageshack.us/img388/2181/uta46sc.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


And here's how it works (http://www.break.com/index/weapons_of_mass_destruction.html)

I still don't see the use, If the guy had the MP5 in a sling he could have dropped it and pulled his gun in just one movement. I vould prefere to have the "extra" weapon to draw during a contact drill/Peel off rather than having to shoot a 7lb Glock...