"Ti-Baby" is Airport safe!

[stevevh]

For those of you that own one of these works of art, and feel the urge to fly, I got official approval from the TSA that these are airport/airplane safe!

[LowWorm]

Is this the titanium prybaby you;re meaning, or some other neat tool I'm clueless about.... :idiot2:

[pipedreams]

Could you provide documentation of this? Sounds like great news.

todd

[stevevh]

Sorry about the confusion. Pry-baby in Ti is what I meant. I was talking to a TSA supervisor and she said that any small tool is ok now as long as it does not have a blade on it. Even screwdrivers 7inch or less are allowed as well as scissors 3 inches or less.
Check out www.tsa.gov for a full list of what can and cannot be carried.(I carry a copy with me when traveling just so there is no confusion). Oh, she wanted to know where I got my ti-baby from as she wanted one to:)

[heathah]

Sorry about the confusion. Pry-baby in Ti is what I meant. I was talking to a TSA supervisor and she said that any small tool is ok now as long as it does not have a blade on it. Even screwdrivers 7inch or less are allowed as well as scissors 3 inches or less.
Check out www.tsa.gov for a full list of what can and cannot be carried.(I carry a copy with me when traveling just so there is no confusion). Oh, she wanted to know where I got my ti-baby from as she wanted one to:)


Why would scissors be allowed and not a tool with a blade? I see that the scissors can't have a sharp point or be longer than 4 in. but they are still a blade in general. :-\

[Peter Atwood]

Outstanding!!!! I have been dying to know if you could get one through the airport now. Thanks so much for having the courage to risk losing your Tibaby to find out for us. Quick, someone pin a metal on that man! :laugh: ;D :D

[stevevh]

Why would scissors be allowed and not a tool with a blade? I see that the scissors can't have a sharp point or be longer than 4 in. but they are still a blade in general. :-\


This question is one of many I have tried over the last 5 years since 9/11. However Logic is not one of the TSA strong points and it is not really the people working the checkpoints fault either. It is the policy makers at TSA HQ that comes up with what can and cannot be taken on board. Be it logical or not. The irony is your fist/finger/other bodily parts can be far more dangerous than a pair of 3.5inch scissors. Oh, and Peter I had a backup plan in case it wasnt allowed. No way are they getting my Ti-Baby!!!

[jeffm]

If you read the fine print it is still up to the discression of the screener. I've had my blunt-nose scissors taken.

[bob_the_bomb]

Could you provide documentation of this? Sounds like great news.

todd


A word of warning...searchers in other countries don't always get the updates...or abide by the,. My advice is (and I added it up, I have been to 65 countries) DON'T travel with carry on that you are in risk of having confiscated, and ensure your checked baggage is rigid and lockable or you have one of those pack-safe nets round it

[mrsean2k]

What I find particularly galling is that, at least in the UK, I am happily allowed on board with glass bottles and encouraged to buy more in the course of my flight. However my nail clippers are confiscated. Sheer bloody madness.

[phill]

What I find particularly galling is that, at least in the UK, I am happily allowed on board with glass bottles and encouraged to buy more in the course of my flight. However my nail clippers are confiscated. Sheer bloody madness.


Be prepared for further craziness, every single step we take towards banning all knives:

This is from a Scottish debate that will happen in Jan to further tackle knife crime in Scotland
http://www.scotland.gov.uk/Publications/2005/06/27110147/01543
The related discussion of it can be found:
http://www.britishblades.com/forums/showthread.php?t=68656

14. This consultation paper therefore focuses on the last
two points and looks at what more can be done to prevent these
potentially dangerous weapons getting into the wrong hands in
the first place.

Definitions: what kind of knives are we talking
about?

15. While we could seek to restrict access to
all knives - no matter what their intended purpose - the
vast majority of people use knives in the home responsibly and
safely every day. The efforts and costs involved in restricting
access to all of these knives would be disproportionate to any
benefits that might be gained. We do not, therefore, propose to
place further restrictions on the sale of knives with a
legitimate domestic use.

16. We therefore intend that knives which are designed for
domestic purposes, such the preparation and consumption of food
or
DIY tasks, should not be covered by the
proposed increase in the minimum age at which a knife can be
sold to someone or any further restrictions on sale we
introduce.
The increase was from 16 to 18

17. Instead, we believe that proposals to restrict the sale
of knives should focus on those knives which do not have a
clear and unambiguous domestic purpose. In particular we want
to catch so-called combat knives and others more suitable for
slashing, stabbing and fighting than for any domestic
purpose.

18. Our proposed definition of a "non-domestic" knife
is:

" a knife which has a blade or sharp point, and which
is not designed only for domestic use, or only for use in
the processing, preparation or consumption of food."

When most of knife crime happens with "domestic knives" and tool knives, what are the knives that are specifically being ignored in tightening legislation...

The problem begins in the first sentence of the quote:
"This consultation paper therefore focuses on the last two points and looks at what more can be done to prevent these potentially dangerous weapons getting into the wrong hands in the first place"

What can you do, nothing, nothing at all. When your own law states that anything can be an offensive weapon if carried with the intention of being one then what hope do you really have of stopping knife crime by banning one small subsection of what is used. Especially when that subsection is already illegal to carry. You can ban all the 'weapons' you want, but eventually it will come down to someone intent on killing someone else carrying a rock which he found in his cave.

Part 15 is particularly sad/funny/offensive. Effectively in one short paragraph they acknowledge that you cannot outright ban all blades but at the same time they define the only legitimate use of a blade is in food prep.

When you have to do something to appear to be doing something, thats when you ban nail clippers on planes and restrict (and logically the end result will be banning) SAKs and other knives which are currently legal to carry in the UK. Sooner or later as we walk down this road you will need a license similar to a shotgun license to buy a bread knife. And yet the yobs will still go on sticking each other with sharpened sticks or broken bottles.